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Im not closed minded to it and im not sure how you got that from my post. No i do not need to have bottom watered to understand how all these mechanics work and how they will effect various factors. I just understand the mechanics and implications it creates, thus this thread. I have grown many different ways in many different media ane dont feel its for me. If something works for someone they should embrace it and there is no 1 best method to growing… The best is the one that works for you.What is the challenge from watering below? lmo Roots exploding in res.
Im not closed minded to it, i just understand the mechanics of it and dont feel its for me. If something works for someone they should embrace it and there is no 1 best method to growing… The best is the one that works for you.
To answer your question on the challenges i need more info in the type of bottom watering because they are not all the same.
Is it a flood and drain style?
height of the flood in relation to the pot height?
shallow wicking?
organic (actual organic amendments) or synthetic?
type of containers used?
fresh nutrients or recirculated?
these and more all play a role in what challenges you may face.
Its very simple. Take a 5 gallon bucket and a salad bowl turned upside down in the bucket. That is the res, then you drill holes in the salad bowl then a layer of black ground cloth over it. then add your potting soil. My res is 6 inches high so i drilled a drain hole at 5 inches. You then insert a pvc pipe into the res and water from there.Im not closed minded to it, i just understand the mechanics of it and dont feel its for me. If something works for someone they should embrace it and there is no 1 best method to growing… The best is the one that works for you.
To answer your question on the challenges i need more info in the type of bottom watering because they are not all the same.
Is it a flood and drain style?
height of the flood in relation to the pot height?
shallow wicking?
organic (actual organic amendments) or synthetic?
type of containers used?
fresh nutrients or recirculated?
these and more all play a role in what challenges you may face.
Your roots are showing. I would personally cover them up but that's just my 2 cents. Looks good though. Happy Growing...Its very simple. Take a 5 gallon bucket and a salad bowl turned upside down in the bucket. That is the res, then you drill holes in the salad bowl then a layer of black ground cloth over it. then add your potting soil. My res is 6 inches high so i drilled a drain hole at 5 inches. You then insert a pvc pipe into the res and water from there.
so you just wick water up?Its very simple. Take a 5 gallon bucket and a salad bowl turned upside down in the bucket. That is the res, then you drill holes in the salad bowl then a layer of black ground cloth over it. then add your potting soil. My res is 6 inches high so i drilled a drain hole at 5 inches. You then insert a pvc pipe into the res and water from there.
It works just as it does in nature. I can give you a link to several other sites of which other growers having great success with it. I thought the same thing of it, went against all I know of watering and wet dry cycles. There are serveral nutes you can use to grow this style. It's difficult to wrap your head around it, I'm sure. Do yourself a favor and do some research further into it before looking the other way. It can blow coco and hydro away and using soil. No salt build up and no ph to deal with, I know its hard to believe but seriously check it out. I know you know a lot about growing, but you really need to experience SIP growing.so you just wick water up?
that will create a salt buildup at the too of the water table… the media above the water table is wasted as it wont get the moisture to support root growth. If you dint understand what i mean pop back and read the part on capillary action
Sure it will work and depending on the type of nutrients you may not see an issue with salts. It’s wasteful media wise imo and you loose the benefit of a wet dry cycle that will help provide higher o2 levels.
again im not saying it won’t or doesnt work… im simoly pointing out the challenges and things that could be better
Because it works doesnt mean its better or worse it ONLY means it works. Define better? I think you need to do some research to understand how things work. Because i can clearly see you are missing a lot of information of the variables your talking about.It compares
It works just as it does in nature. I can give you a link to serveral other sites of which other growers having great success with it. I thought the same thing of it, went against all I know of watering and wet dry cycles. There are serveral nutes you can use to grow this style. It's difficult to wrap your head around it, I'm sure. Do yourself a favor and do some research further into it before looking the other way. It can blow coco and hydro away and using soil. No salt build up and no ph to deal with, I know its hard to believe but seriously check it out. I know you know a lot about growing, but you really need to experience SIP growing.
Yes you should… im sure many would be interested to see more of what your talking about. Again im not saying it doesn’t work… im saying it doesn’t fit the bill for me for many reasonsMaybe I should do a journal on my upcoming grow.
These will be going into SIP buckets, and oh by the way...those other pics i posted are autoflowers.
These are photos, Cherrie Pie, GG#4 and Grand Daddy Purple.
Yes you should… im sure many would be interested to see more of what your talking about. Again im not saying it doesn’t work… im saying it doesn’t fit the bill for me for many r
I may have had some of the same ones when I thought about it. It is nice to have a plant in potting soil and being amazed at how it works. Sucking up the water from below and watching an explosion in growth. I water less and just add a little Epson now and then. I will take those same photo plants i posted above and start a journal once I transplant into there new SIP buckets. Then they can all witness the magic.Yes you should… im sure many would be interested to see more of what your talking about. Again im not saying it doesn’t work… im saying it doesn’t fit the bill for me for many reasons
Personally I believe in science and leave the magic to others… never seemed to work for me in life but looking forward to following along if you wouldn’t mind tagging meI may have had some of the same ones when I thought about it. It is nice to have a plant in potting soil and being amazed at how it works. Sucking up the water from below and watching an explosion in growth. I water less and just add a little Epson now and then. I will take those same photo plants i posted above and start a journal once I transplant into there new SIP buckets. Then they can all witness the magic.
I dont need to see a link… how am I getting defensive? Im having a conversation about growing and answering the questions you asked.Why so defensive? You can label me as you wish. I will start a journal on the 5 plants I posted. When transplanting to SIP there is about a week period of the plant to find the res. After that we can sit and watch the grows, and you can choose your growing style. I will be ready in a couple of weeks to pull the trigger. Other growers I know of are getting huge harvest, Would you like to see the link? I will be in Happy Frog and Using only MC.
They are not showing lolYour roots are showing. I would personally cover them up but that's just my 2 cents. Looks good though. Happy Growing...
Outside in nature the rain periodically flushes each part of the soil and leaks some minerals away which is why these are found in the groundwater, esp. Ca, S, Mg and Nitrate. It's not that plants only drink from the bottom, actually what's worse is the amount of oxygen depletes down really fast, and without it, nute assimilation is throttled greatly.It works just as it does in nature.
I'm just curious what you mean by explosion in growth, thats a wide interpretation, are you talking 1 to 2 inches a day, once the clone as rooted or maybe more like 4 inches a day of growth, and i'm not talking spindly stretchy growth just on top, I mean sold meaty stem growth along with side branching.I may have had some of the same ones when I thought about it. It is nice to have a plant in potting soil and being amazed at how it works. Sucking up the water from below and watching an explosion in growth. I water less and just add a little Epson now and then. I will take those same photo plants i posted above and start a journal once I transplant into there new SIP buckets. Then they can all witness the magic.
It's growth as you will get in hydroponics/coco.I'm just curious what you mean by explosion in growth, thats a wide interpretation, are you talking 1 to 2 inches a day, once the clone as rooted or maybe more like 4 inches a day of growth, and i'm not talking spindly stretchy growth just on top, I mean sold meaty stem growth along with side branching.
extremely vauge… growth can be vastly different in the same media nevermind differing media. What kinda of rates per day is what he was asking… if your unsure just simply say I haven’t measured themIt's growth as you will get in hydroponics/coco.
Yeah what kind of answer is that, I'm really interested to see what this system can do, so I am curious as to your daily growth rate, or how many weeks your vegging to how big a plant etc. anything like thatIt's growth as you will get in hydroponics/coco.
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