What Did I Do Wrong? Only Yielded 7oz

Srenots · Feb 5, 2019

SmithsJunk said:
USPS is generally a solid shipper. Unlike the others they need a warrant to search mail. So unless your package breaks open and they fall out it's probably safe.

yep

Stockbull · Feb 5, 2019

That's a fairly decent haul. First grow was Bubba for me under 400 HPS. Ended up in a 10 gallon pail near end after cutting it back, super cropping and all other tortures tossed at etc and vegging so long. (4 months)
Yield was 7oz of killer eye squinter. Plant was 28" wide and 53".....wide lol a big rectangle anyways.

Weedbro95 · Feb 5, 2019

Stockbull said:
That's a fairly decent haul. First grow was Bubba for me under 400 HPS. Ended up in a 10 gallon pail near end after cutting it back, super cropping and all other tortures tossed at etc and vegging so long. (4 months)
Yield was 7oz of killer eye squinter. Plant was 28" wide and 53".....wide lol a big rectangle anyways.

Idk man I feel like 7oz is ass af for all the work growing is I could just buy that amount. But I think with this new set up I’m working on it’ll b better.

SmithsJunk · Feb 5, 2019

Weedbro95 said:
Idk man I feel like 7oz is ass af for all the work growing is I could just buy that amount. But I think with this new set up I’m working on it’ll b better.

Just keep at it man. You'll get better and better. Every grow is a chance to learn something new and to tweak your system for better results. You'll get it dialed.

Stockbull · Feb 5, 2019

I hear ya. Trying to dial things in myself and looking for more lol

SmithsJunk · Feb 6, 2019

Stockbull said:
I hear ya. Trying to dial things in myself and looking for more lol

Read through this thread.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...-for-humans-about-par-ppf-ppfd-and-dli.84822/

After reading the article, and having my questions answered by the posts following it, I was equipped to search out the rest of the info myself. Within a few hours I was able to calculate the optimal clearance and output of my lights with precision.

This is solid "dial-it-in" info.

Stockbull · Feb 6, 2019

Great read and info. More tests to look to down the road

cemchris · Feb 6, 2019

Weedbro95 said:
Wow that kinda pisses me off to spend $100 on seeds to send me false ones. Never going back to the MSNL seed bank again.

Yeah bro I wasnt knocking you on your first couple of grows. The flowers looked good. Just Nevilles is the classic sativa spear 100-130 plus day plants. They might be legit. Nevilles is prob not what it used to be from the OG moms. Over they years the orig stock is prob not around anymore and has been brought back by f2's and so on. That just might be what Nevilles is now. It's been 15 years or more since I ran Nevilles. Just saying it wasnt the same as it used to be.

The point I was trying to make was stay away from Sat dom genetics in a tent with LEDs. That is just the wrong setup for it. Not saying it can't be done. I remember a Guy 1TokeOvertheline doing like a 230 day sativa in a cab I think with t5's or cfls back in the day on IC. Dude was a true Sat head lol. Respect. Just a suggestion on what you are looking for out of your grows when you are starting out and kind of getting a feel on what you like and want to grow. Not to mention really heavy Sat genetics are usually really picky on feeding ect and arent the most user friendly plants right out of the gate.

Good luck m8

Weedbro95 · Feb 6, 2019

cemchris said:
Yeah bro I wasnt knocking you on your first couple of grows. The flowers looked good. Just Nevilles is the classic sativa spear 100-130 plus day plants. They might be legit. Nevilles is prob not what it used to be from the OG moms. Over they years the orig stock is prob not around anymore and has been brought back by f2's and so on. That just might be what Nevilles is now. It's been 15 years or more since I ran Nevilles. Just saying it wasnt the same as it used to be.

The point I was trying to make was stay away from Sat dom genetics in a tent with LEDs. That is just the wrong setup for it. Not saying it can't be done. I remember a Guy 1TokeOvertheline doing like a 230 day sativa in a cab I think with t5's or cfls back in the day on IC. Dude was a true Sat head lol. Respect. Just a suggestion on what you are looking for out of your grows when you are starting out and kind of getting a feel on what you like and want to grow. Not to mention really heavy Sat genetics are usually really picky on feeding ect and arent the most user friendly plants right out of the gate.

Good luck m8

Yea thx I know it wasn’t a knock. The strain is still fire either way just wanted more but I’ll make the changes needed.

FatManatee · Feb 11, 2019

10 oz (0,7g/w) is really the maximum amount of bud you can expect with those Viparspectra's.
There is still room for improvement, you definitely have some problems with feeding. I would study more basic growing facts before jumping into my next grow.

Mr Bee · Feb 11, 2019

Your not the first person who started growing expecting way more than they actually got and you won't be the last.
Also remember freshly harvested weed is 4/5 times heavier than properly dried ready to smoke weed.
For example just say for instance I harvest a crop and weigh it while it's still freshly chopped and it weighs 5 lbs .I would expect that to dry into roughly 1lb of ready to use weed.

Dirtbag · Feb 13, 2019

Weedbro95 said:
It’s a 36x36x72 grow tent. Yea both switches were on since veg. I was always under the impression that LED’s were the best to use for growing.

That's not a terrible yield for that size grow tent honestly. Plants need space to get big.

I would ditch those lights though and use a single 315 CMH in that size of a tent. But realistically, I think you will be hard pressed to pull a pound out of a 3x3'. I average somewhere between 22g-1 ounce per square foot of canopy space, so in a 3x3 you arent far off. 7-9 oz is what that tent is capable of.

Hdinkleman · Feb 19, 2019

you flowered with a vipar that was your problem lmao, not even going to try and explain it, do some research on your own or can continue getting semi nominal harvests from your all powerful full spectrum cannabis led

Hdinkleman · Feb 19, 2019

SmithsJunk said:
Just keep at it man. You'll get better and better. Every grow is a chance to learn something new and to tweak your system for better results. You'll get it dialed.

he will get better his full spectrum chinese blurple will get worse and worse lol

SmithsJunk · Feb 19, 2019

Hdinkleman said:
he will get better his full spectrum chinese blurple will get worse and worse lol

If used alone, yes, but as an auxiliary light it may still help produce some serious buds. There's always somewhere it can be used. I mean, it did produce 7zips so it's nowhere near useless.

I expect little from my tent grows. They seem very small when compared to my outdoor grows. Focusing on using my tent for breeding. That makes it valuable to me even with so small a yield. Hopefully I can turn my deck into a grow room before summer. With more space maybe I can produce a respectable indoor harvest. I still have a whole lot to learn before I'm competent at it. Indoor and outdoor are two completely different animals.

gwheels · Feb 19, 2019

Dirtbag said:
That's not a terrible yield for that size grow tent honestly. Plants need space to get big.

I would ditch those lights though and use a single 315 CMH in that size of a tent. But realistically, I think you will be hard pressed to pull a pound out of a 3x3'. I average somewhere between 22g-1 ounce per square foot of canopy space, so in a 3x3 you arent far off. 7-9 oz is what that tent is capable of.

If you ran white widow/critical mass/big bud or another dense bud strain you could get close to a pound in a 3 x 3 with a 315 CMH. Some have hit the 1 pound mark in that exact setup.

Good strains and plant maintenance can get you there and the 315 can power it.

Hdinkleman · Feb 19, 2019

SmithsJunk said:
If used alone, yes, but as an auxiliary light it may still help produce some serious buds. There's always somewhere it can be used. I mean, it did produce 7zips so it's nowhere near useless.

I expect little from my tent grows. They seem very small when compared to my outdoor grows. Focusing on using my tent for breeding. That makes it valuable to me even with so small a yield. Hopefully I can turn my deck into a grow room before summer. With more space maybe I can produce a respectable indoor harvest. I still have a whole lot to learn before I'm competent at it. Indoor and outdoor are two completely different animals.

he couldve yielded 7 ozs from his size pots and space with cfls, stop covering for shitty lights and tell himthe truth. vipars have nowhere near the red light needed to maximize yield potential. he will continue getting nominal yield off of the junk light

3 7 GALLON plants only yielded 7 zips, he shouldve yielded at least 2 lbs bro

SmithsJunk · Feb 19, 2019

Hdinkleman said:
he couldve yielded 7 ozs from his size pots and space with cfls, stop covering for shitty lights and tell himthe truth. vipars have nowhere near the red light needed to maximize yield potential. he will continue getting nominal yield off of the junk light

3 7 GALLON plants only yielded 7 zips, he shouldve yielded at least 2 lbs bro

I've only done one tent grow through harvest. I can't verify that. My tent was outside through the winter and fighting sub-zero temps so my yield was very small.

I can tell him what an outdoor plant is likely to produce. I'm not saying it's untrue, so don't get me wrong, but in my limited experience, with the sise of of an outdoor plant required to produce 2lbs, it would not fit in his growing space. There are growers on here that I believe could do that but they're all very experienced and their grows are perfectly dialed with specialised equipment. I'm looking forward to seeing what my COBs can do under more optimal conditions this summer. Especially now that I understand how to use them properly.

What I was saying is that he could use the Vipar as an "additional" light source to good quality COBs/QBs (not that it would be necessary) or used to start beanlings and early veg. In other words, it's not an optimal piece of equipment, but it's still not useless.

...and yes, I was being nice, but not dishonest.

gwheels · Feb 19, 2019

I bought a high end blurple to start..changed to a 315 CMH and then switched to cobs and samsung boards/strips.

The cost of the light is immaterial. I think it is where everyone gets hung up.

Get a good cob/samsung light and you should get more than a gram a watt. Vipars/Mars/ every other cheap blurple are not very good lights. They do well at veg but what doesnt. My little QB135 can veg a 3 x 3.

Good lights = bigger harvests
Skill comes easier with good hardware.

But this is my less than humble opinion. Take it or leave it.

AND you can get cheap cobs too. I just ordered 2 cobs with 4 lights each (240 watts a piece) for 180 each light delivered. They are not timbers but they will do the job. Your vipar regrets and the cost of the vipar almost pay for the timber/HLG or whatever.

For the record I prefer Timber lights. I just need to cover more area than expected and the price point made me hit send....and then i added 1 before shipping :D

SmithsJunk · Feb 19, 2019

gwheels said:
I bought a high end blurple to start..changed to a 315 CMH and then switched to cobs and samsung boards/strips.

The cost of the light is immaterial. I think it is where everyone gets hung up.

Get a good cob/samsung light and you should get more than a gram a watt. Vipars/Mars/ every other cheap blurple are not very good lights. They do well at veg but what doesnt. My little QB135 can veg a 3 x 3.

Good lights = bigger harvests
Skill comes easier with good hardware.

But this is my less than humble opinion. Take it or leave it.

AND you can get cheap cobs too. I just ordered 2 cobs with 4 lights each (240 watts a piece) for 180 each light delivered. They are not timbers but they will do the job. Your vipar regrets and the cost of the vipar almost pay for the timber/HLG or whatever.

Wow, that's a good deal if they're quality lights. I paid around $300 for a CXB 200w 3500k fixture a little over a year ago. I tell ya, those are some bangin lights. I run the double and a single (265w total) in a 4x2 and they work great. Even had to turn them down to <70%.

What Did I Do Wrong? Only Yielded 7oz

What Did I Do Wrong? Only Yielded 7oz

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