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Yeah we will have to agree to disgree on this one. Ive definitely seen excellent growers in amazing rooms grow shitty weed to perfection.I was talking about getting the most out of a plant. And i brought up cuts because you and i could grow the same cut and one could be much better than the other.
I believe as a general rule (and again i have not grown any what you call subpar genetics) the grow determines the results more than the genetics. I sure have had a seed mill bred plant come out better than a blue lemon thai. Good genetics are not a guarantee of success
Give a real sour diesel clone to 6 growers and see how different the final product can be.
i also think chasing new genetics is akin to chasing the dragon. I see no real improvement in genetics in 20 years. Only thc is higher because of greed in the new market. Weed was better before we needed to test that. And now apparently there are many bad seeds sold.
I agree to disagree because bad seeds should not have been sold in the first place.
been smoking over 35 years now. I liked some better than others but i have never seen bad well grown weed.
You really do like your Sativas MiMed. And honestly finding plants with the true sativa buzz in new genetics is getting more difficult as plants get over hybridized, which is probably why you dont like much newer stuff. And its true that sadly bag appeal, or more appropriately being photogenic for insta pics is the main thing people seem to breed for these days. Which just proliferates bad genetics that look good. Its a classic Hollywood story.
Yeah we will have to agree to disgree on this one. Ive definitely seen excellent growers in amazing rooms grow shitty weed to perfection.
Lol no im saying a great grower with a great grow grew a genetically inferior plant to perfection, and it was still shitty weed that nobody wanted to smoke.Wait. Thats what im saying. The grow is more important. Great grow can make a seemingly inferior plant very good.
LOL, your attempt to discredit what he's stating is so transparent. It's a lot of "what if's" Why would a "great grower" grow a "shit stain"? Wouldn't be much of a great grower, would he?
Lot's of hypothetical here.
I am afraid I have MiMedGrower. I popped some Dr. Gonzo stuff from DVG because I was stupid and thought he had great stuff. I put all 12 into water and paper towels. I think I got like 6 to sprout and 3 females. I flowered them and they just sucked. Small ass buds that just did not produce well. I do not think it was something I did that influenced the grow because I had them growing with other plants and the rest turned out and the stuff sold in a few days.Have you ever had a bad plant and know for sure it was not grower error? And i dont mean a freak plant. I mean from a seed you purchased.
Lol no im saying a great grower with a great grow grew a genetically inferior plant to perfection, and it was still shitty weed that nobody wanted to smoke.
I am afraid I have MiMedGrower. I popped some Dr. Gonzo stuff from DVG because I was stupid and thought he had great stuff. I put all 12 into water and paper towels. I think I got like 6 to sprout and 3 females. I flowered them and they just sucked. Small ass buds that just did not produce well. I do not think it was something I did that influenced the grow because I had them growing with other plants and the rest turned out and the stuff sold in a few days.
I believe part of why this discussion has different opinions may have to do with personnel preference. You mentioned Jack H. or whatever that stuff is called. I cannot stand those kind of strains way to speedy, makes me think I am on speed.
You made your position clear from the beginning. That's what I don't understand. Isn't anyone else entitled to their own position also?
I'm not even saying your wrong or right, it's just a position, that's all. It's an opinion.
What? We're trying to prove our view. What's wrong with that?You made your position clear from the beginning. That's what I don't understand. Isn't anyone else entitled to their own position also?
I'm not even saying your wrong or right, it's just a position, that's all. It's an opinion.
As far as I can see this is a learning discussion and we can all learn something form each other. That is one of the beautiful things about this forum.we have all gone deeper into this discussion. I didnt get the feeling there was a fight.
I believe the focus of the discussion is does genetics or grower/environment make the end product what it is.I guess what I"m saying is this, that cannabis strains are highly subjective, and left to be interpreted by the end user. Personally, I smoke some strains that I know other people won't touch, like some of the heavy indicas I smoke. I like the earthy tones, others don't. I think there great strains, other people think there shit.
Some like it sweet, other's just care about intensity, or focused on the head or body high that it produces.
What? We're trying to prove our view. What's wrong with that?
You're arguing your point as well. So are we not allowed our opinion? No, we are, we're both just arguing our side.I don't think anything can be proved here, beyond the shadow of a doubt, it's all pretty much subjective for the most part, I believe. Or there would likely only be one strain out there everyone would be smoking.
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