What is causing all these probs?

[Puffntuff]

No rust. 60x jeweler a scope is what I have.

 

[stanknugzz77]

No idea what is causing your problems, but your lamb's quarters is looking nice and healthy in the first picture. Good luck with your troubles. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

 

[Puffntuff]

Hahahah I had no idea what that was. The lambs quarters love my patch so I till them into the soil. I'm gonna try them now. Thanks

 

[stanknugzz77]

No problem brother. Lamb's Quarters can be used as a substitute for spinach in recipes. Also pretty dank in salads. Good luck with them. Positive vibes...

~nugzz

 

[SpiderK]

did you cook your own soil. ?

& how beat up are the plants in your area ? we have had very high humidity & tons of rain in the early summer so the bugs are loving life and destroying many leafs on many different types of plants in my area in the upper midwest ...

 

[Puffntuff]

I made this soil 4yrs ago. I reamended this year and tilled the natural plants growing into the soil before I planted. All the plants are looking great except for Sour Jack. Tomatoes are looking good etc. It's 65f right now 85% humidity it will be getting down to 54f tonight. I'm in southeast Michigan.

 

[SpiderK]

did you ever use neem meal in your soil as a preventive measure seeing u recycle yours.

 

[Puffntuff]

No I didn't. I use espoma plant tone at the end of the season and toss that in to let it start breaking down for next year.

 

[SpiderK]

i'd check the root zone for issues. grab some soil around the stem check for bugs ....

 

[Puffntuff]

Fungus gnats or something similar?

 

[Seamaiden]

I think you have a combination of problems going on here. I think your most pressing problem is whatever is causing that funky discolored growth. I've grown outside for a few years now and while I do see purpling when the temps drop, it is absolutely not in that pattern you're showing us.

I think you have either broads or russets, and some nutrient issues that are otherwise very slight, at worst a Ca- that can probably be easily remedied since it's fairly early on before full flower set.

60x won't show you these pests, you're going to need a much higher magnification. After the 2nd set of pix, I'm leaning more towards pathogen or broad mites, and to be clear, NEITHER of which I've experienced to this point.

 

[Puffntuff]

What do you all think about a combo of thrips and phosphorus toxicity?

 

[SpiderK]

brutal .....

spinosad a couple times then start neem a few days later 4-5 times per week.. i'd cover the soil with diatomaceous earth also .... & hit the good plants.

i go heavy with neem and never had an issue.

 

[kolah]

Not good. Those contorted ( twisted and irregular) leaves, spindle-like and corkscrewish new growths ( which seems to be almost "textbook") and small perforated leaves make me think you need to rule out (or rule in) broadmites. It may be best to get a GOOD microscope that hits 200x. Some folks claim they are visible at 100x but from my recent experience, they were not.

If in fact it is broadmites you probably have a deficiency going on which has been caused by the broad mite infestation. Broad mites are also notorious fro spreading other diseases as well ( like many of the Mosaic virus strains, etc) AND, all of your healthy plants are at in serious risk. Big time.

IMO, diagnose it first... then get your options together on how you'd like to treat it. Lots of ways to skin the cat though.

 

[Seamaiden]

What do you all think about a combo of thrips and phosphorus toxicity?

I don't really see a P+. I can't say for sure about the thrips, that's a pest I haven't yet experienced but if you're observing them, then there ya go. Causing the ugly new growth? Again, I can't say for sure due to my inexperience with something like this.

I'm landing with kolah--get the real problem(s) Dx'd, then proceed.

 

[Puffntuff]

After all the this fucking sour jack decided to go full on Asian ladyboy on me wtf!! Yanked and tossed muthafucka