What is it? Deficiency? Gnats? Overfeeding?

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RealizedReal000

RealizedReal000

I would try organic methods first. Then if you have to try something stronger. Nuke em by flying skull. Or azamax or neem oil. But for sure perlite to at least help and sticky traps. You can use all but do the liquids 15 minutes before lights out. Please. I’ve seen way to many people burning up there plants in my life. Lol
 
Tasty Buds

Tasty Buds

Temperature: 25°C (Lights on)
RH: around 50-55%
High Quality Coco ready to use (Ec 0.1)
PPM feeding: 600ppm (1.2ec) 6.0 ph with remo nutrients for veg according to the table.
Runoff - Around 350ppm and PH of 7.2 (i got that ph recently but when it was around 6.2, the plant was having the same problems...
I tried to run 800ppm and 350 ppm as well, 5% of pot volume and 10-20% runoff rule.
I flushed them already, 2 times, one with light nute mix and one with 5.8 ph water...
It has a fungus gnat infestation and im running h202 3% (1-4) right now (for the first time yesterday) and ordered gnat traps, and trying foliar neem oil... what do u think that is?
I didn't read anyone elses reply, as I know exactly what it is.
First off, your environment is super healthy in the root zone, that's why your run off is so much higher (ph) than what you're feeding
Also, if you're runoff is 300 ppms less than what's going in, your plants are eating.
PH HAS to be correct, or your plant will not intake essential nutrients!
So if you have 6.0 8n, and 7.2 going out, your root zone is WAY hight. It's always good to see your ph coming out higher for several reasons.
Anyway, this is about a 4-7 day fix.
Flush with your nutrient solution at 1.0 EC (500 PPMS) until you're runoff is WITHIN RANGE.
Ideally, you should have 5.8 going in, and 6.2 coming out..flush at 5.6-5.8 tops.
What kind, and size lights you use dictates how much you can feed.
Ex. A 1k HPS plant can take a much heavier feeding, than a 150 watt. It's not so much the light that makes them grow so much bigger, and faster with a 1k hps, but rather it can use more food.
Anyway, i know I'm new here here again, but I've been doing this over 30 years. Hydro for 20+. I've seen it all, and I don't hsve grows that fail (I could have equipment fail) but I get the absolute potential of a plant.
Anyway, SHORT ANSWER, YOU HAVE PH LOCKOUT. GET IT IN RANGE.
I wrote all that for anyone having issues. Always check PH 1st
You'll have her happy, and healthy in no time..Depending on the power of your light, you can flush with a bit higher EC
 
MilkyTrichomes

MilkyTrichomes

Kinda' looks like potassium excess. Last season I played around with langbeinite for the first time and saw some different looks in regards to excess and lack of K. Although I was outdoors in soil I had some similarly burnt and crumbly leaves after I over applied langbeinite. I would also be careful spraying oil on to stressed leaves as they could be more prone to burning depending on temps/light intensity.
Im curious about langbeinite- I have dr earth 0-0-22 and have tried it on outdoor non cannabis plants, roses, tomato, cucumber with good success. I’m also curious about human urine
 
MilkyTrichomes

MilkyTrichomes

Temperature: 25°C (Lights on)
RH: around 50-55%
High Quality Coco ready to use (Ec 0.1)
PPM feeding: 600ppm (1.2ec) 6.0 ph with remo nutrients for veg according to the table.
Runoff - Around 350ppm and PH of 7.2 (i got that ph recently but when it was around 6.2, the plant was having the same problems...
I tried to run 800ppm and 350 ppm as well, 5% of pot volume and 10-20% runoff rule.
I flushed them already, 2 times, one with light nute mix and one with 5.8 ph water...
It has a fungus gnat infestation and im running h202 3% (1-4) right now (for the first time yesterday) and ordered gnat traps, and trying foliar neem oil... what do u think that is?
I believe your pH is too high in the soil. I would suggest flushing with <6.0 until you get 6.6- 6.8
 
Tasty Buds

Tasty Buds

I believe your pH is too high in the soil. I would suggest flushing with <6.0 until you get 6.6- 6.8
Yes! If 6.2 is going in, and 7.2 is coming out (and you're sure the meter is calibrated, your coco is through the roof. I'd say near 8.
Luckily, it's an easy fix, but may take a bit of flushing.
Did you ever add lime, or a product with it?
I always check run off ph/EC. 5.9 going in 6.2 coming out.
I wrote a half an article on PH. I don't know it all, but I know why you're having the issues
Macro, and mico nutes are takn up in the root zone. The roots can not take in the nutrients with a PH out of range, especially that far.
You can give more, and more nutes, but if PH is out of range, the plant is starting
 
microgrower456

microgrower456

Yes! If 6.2 is going in, and 7.2 is coming out (and you're sure the meter is calibrated, your coco is through the roof. I'd say near 8.
Luckily, it's an easy fix, but may take a bit of flushing.
Did you ever add lime, or a product with it?
I always check run off ph/EC. 5.9 going in 6.2 coming out.
I wrote a half an article on PH. I don't know it all, but I know why you're having the issues
Macro, and mico nutes are takn up in the root zone. The roots can not take in the nutrients with a PH out of range, especially that far.
You can give more, and more nutes, but if PH is out of range, the plant is starting
Yea, my ph meter is calibrated, and ppm meter too (500 scale).
I did a "flush" (3 galons pot and 10L of 550ppm 5.8 ph in each pot) that someone is this post recommended. EC of Inflow Matched the Runoff and the ph dropped down to 6.3-6.4 from 7.2... so i hope that solve somethings... Treated with 2 consecutive days with neem oil, and will add some perlite in the top of each pot (about 1 inch of perlite). I also did some test... In one pot my flush was with only part A and B from a Local Brand Nutrient. And the other one was with BioGrow (from Biobizz), Enzymes, Complex B and some microbes, Part A + B of Local Brand Nutrient and some BioHeaven (From Biobizz too) to see if helps with the life in the coco.... Anyway. I Will post as soon as i have an update.
 
microgrower456

microgrower456

Yeah, no doubt on the PH. If you had root aphids, or any kind of disease in the root zone, your ph would drop like a rock.
Yea! Nice news! Check my post above to see if u have something to say about it, please! Peace!
 
Tasty Buds

Tasty Buds

Yea, my ph meter is calibrated, and ppm meter too (500 scale).
I did a "flush" (3 galons pot and 10L of 550ppm 5.8 ph in each pot) that someone is this post recommended. EC of Inflow Matched the Runoff and the ph dropped down to 6.3-6.4 from 7.2... so i hope that solve somethings... Treated with 2 consecutive days with neem oil, and will add some perlite in the top of each pot (about 1 inch of perlite). I also did some test... In one pot my flush was with only part A and B from a Local Brand Nutrient. And the other one was with BioGrow (from Biobizz), Enzymes, Complex B and some microbes, Part A + B of Local Brand Nutrient and some BioHeaven (From Biobizz too) to see if helps with the life in the coco.... Anyway. I Will post as soon as i have an update.
See what the ph is tomorrow. If it's back up around 7, fludh with 5.6-5.7. Keep checking the run off, anf keep flushing.
Are you using silica? You check your ph after everything is added, right?
 
microgrower456

microgrower456

See what the ph is tomorrow. If it's back up around 7, fludh with 5.6-5.7. Keep checking the run off, anf keep flushing.
Are you using silica? You check your ph after everything is added, right?
Right, i check every time! I'm not using silica, but i have some here... Should i use? What ppm of silica? I will mesure the ph after tomorrow or tomorrow (depends on the dryness of the medium, i wait till very tiny clear brown in surface to fertigate again).
 
microgrower456

microgrower456

I'm back at the farm after taking a several year break, as I had kids.
I'm not sure where it is. If you post the link, I'll be happy to take a look
It's like a good fertilizer (Local Brand), but biobizz has some molasses and bioheaven has some aminoacid and other thinks that can help living culture in the medium as well as the Complex B (that have some microbes on it) and the Enzymes is supossed to help in that too and better nutrient absorption... Nothing crazy, like "recharge" from real growers (i ordered some BTW), but it what i have right now... Hope your kids are doing awesome! Peace!
 
Tasty Buds

Tasty Buds

It's like a good fertilizer (Local Brand), but biobizz has some molasses and bioheaven has some aminoacid and other thinks that can help living culture in the medium as well as the Complex B (that have some microbes on it) and the Enzymes is supossed to help in that too and better nutrient absorption... Nothing crazy, like "recharge" from real growers (i ordered some BTW), but it what i have right now... Hope your kids are doing awesome! Peace!
Thanks. If you have any more issue, or the PH isn't getting back in range, don't hesitate. Molasses will actually drop ph, so im wondering if they're putting anything in it to combat the drop from Molasses, and that's why it's being raised so high?
Well find out tomorrow
 
microgrower456

microgrower456

Thanks. If you have any more issue, or the PH isn't getting back in range, don't hesitate. Molasses will actually drop ph, so im wondering if they're putting anything in it to combat the drop from Molasses, and that's why it's being raised so high?
Well find out tomorrow
Thanks to help me out, you and everybody! I will keep updated here! Keeping updated maybe help someone in the future!
 
microgrower456

microgrower456

Thanks. If you have any more issue, or the PH isn't getting back in range, don't hesitate. Molasses will actually drop ph, so im wondering if they're putting anything in it to combat the drop from Molasses, and that's why it's being raised so high?
Well find out tomorrow
So, Updating Here. Inflow - 600 ppm. Ph 5.8.
Runoff - #1 (lets call that way) 632 ppm, 6.6 PH
Runoff - #2 687ppm andd 6.8 PH.
Watering Every Other day (3gal pot)
Did a Heavy Defoliation, and manual cleanse for deal with the mites and neem oil.
Did a cleanse in the grow and killed any other plant and let only this 2.

It's in the way to solve the problem?
Hope so. But i wanna to listen u guys. Peace!
 
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