What nutes do you Guys swear by

[nuttso]

canna each line and earth juice

second that

 

[Venom818]

Gh sucks ass

i dissagree,gh is cool so is advanced have had great results with both

 

[Smokey503ski]

Botanicare CNS-17 for me now day's. Before my go to staple was from Light Manufacturings Golden Grow and there Golden Bloom. But LM just stopped making there food. For me it was the best 3 part food I could buy and ever used. Now I like the 1 part systems I can add whatever I feel the plants need.

 

[Budzilla]

Gh sucks ass

Thanks for the input ''StongPimpin'' :clapping

 

[Mr. Greenthum]

Sticking with Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom

 

[Venom818]

sorry greenthum this is actually for strongpimpin

i guess u are right here are so bunk ass pictures of some schagg i grew with gh

can i see some of your ur pics to see if i should switch.thnx

 

[Green Supreme]

I found most nute programs can work if folks would just take the time to figure them out. Many folks just go from regimen to regimen, being dissappointed by them all and figuring none. Gee, why doesn't my weed taste good? Who said growing weed is easy teehee. Peace GS

 

[Darth Fader]

greenthum

i guess u are right here are so bunk ass pictures of some schagg i grew with gh

can i see some of your ur pics to see if i should switch.thnx

Damn! Someone just got pwned! :ninja:rofl

 

[Str8Dank]

I found most nute programs can work if folks would just take the time to figure them out. Many folks just go from regimen to regimen, being dissappointed by them all and figuring none. Gee, why doesn't my weed taste good? Who said growing weed is easy teehee. Peace GS

i hated H&G when i first tried it now I'm starting to like it more and more and I'm just using the additives that were left from the run i hated. it will get a proper test again in the future no doubt by me this many people cant be wrong and i've learned a lot since the days that i tried it.

 

[Growing247]

Connoisseur makes the buds twice as large as soil grown. Advance Nutrients best hdroponic solution. Add some Sensizym to keep the res clean and help with nutrient uptake and possibly some AZAMAX into the res. if bugs are a concern. Also, a root inoculant wouldn't hurt like Bushdoktor Kangaroots or something with a lot of benefical mikorhazae or however it is spelled. AN Conn. is what I, as well as the guys at the hydroponics shop use personally. I would like to try Kushie Kush and Bud Candy but they are not sold around here. For vegging I swear by Fox Farm Grow Big. All strains of cannabis seem to love it and it is a good cheap alternative when all you are doing is vegging your plants and want to see a healthy increase in leaf matter.

 

[Smoking Gun]

sorry greenthum this is actually for strongpimpin

i guess u are right here are so bunk ass pictures of some schagg i grew with gh

can i see some of your ur pics to see if i should switch.thnx

Venom you are right, that is some schwagg, where are all the trichomes? LOL.

I would love to see what you produced with AN. I really did not like working with AN, but I have seen some great results with their line. What I didn't really like about them is the discontinuity between their info. Their bottles gave one ratio, their formula generator from their website gave another ratio, and when I would call to clarify I got another answer. I can say following the formula's AN set out is not a good idea.

 

[gudkarma]

i'll agree with GS & St8dank... people switching nutes regimines all the time, filling rezzys with 12 different things, and complaining about results are (imo) clueless.

i use :

a) dynagro (one part system) bloom & grow
b) fox farm beastie blooms & cha ching (1/2 strength, applied sparingly)
c) potasium silicate
d) ph down
e) h2o2

once every three week cycle, which equates to another ebb/flow tray down, i use liquid karma or fulvic as a top dressing (foliar).

i keep a gallon of micro around & dynagro cal mag , kln as well ...but i rock several strains totalling 145 plants/cuts.

still very very very simple ...& no changes.

i love a nute that gets you real close to proper ph (hydro, 5.8) & keeps stable.

it's like anything, people make one run with a strain, on a fucked up nute schedule at high ppms, shifting ph, throwing additives in the mix, & then call said strain bunk.

whereas, i wouldn't call anything bunk unil dialed in & grown out properly.

it's much easier to grow plants out proper, & get quality results, if you're comfortable & experienced with your nute schedule.

here's my "shwag" harvested every three weeks :evilgrin0040: :

 

[Green Supreme]

LOL. I think good genetics and proper growing conditions will make tastier weed than adding Kushie Kush etc. Good luck. I hear some folks like flavored papers , ack. Peace GS

 

[ibTheMan]

i use GH and AN(Connoisseur), GH is really good stuff, if used in the right ratios with most people dont do, same with AN or any other fert.

GH is a classic great fert fo show.

 

[gudkarma]

when i hear "flavored papers" ...straight to ..."no thanks, gudkarma brought his own".

whereas... there is always that moment when an "el" made with a (regular) dutch (or whatever reg cigar) is just fine.

on topic, i like the simple & sterile rez concept.

all the extra bulshit is just that ...extra bullshit costing extra money... you'll be (hopefully) dumping out every 2 to 3 (me) weeks.

simple nutes = more $ for electricity :)

ever since i came to the farm, started researching more , using the internet as a resource (and not just for porn) , AND growing on a consistent basis (having my own home really helped here) , you come to the conclusion that simple is better.

most of the poeple posting on this thread : i know from being around : grow

point blank.

while we dont always agree on everything, these grow peeps who get get my respect either way ...low & behold... keep it simple too.

love it.

 

[Bobby Smith]

using the internet as a resource (and not just for porn)

There's porn on the Internet?!?!?!?! :confused0054:

As to the original post, I'm in the GH camp (have tried lotsa others, but love GH for the simplicity and reliability - that said, have never run a "true" head to head to compare brands)..........but once I've run my new system once or twice, I plan to do head to head nute battles each round (it's a pentadecagon, so both sides will be 100% equal in terms of everything but nutes).

Not sure how one can conclusively decide that one nute works better than another for their particular situation with only one run - too many variables in each run.........as GK said, lotsa people do something stupid which fucks their plants up and then blame it on the nutes......

e.g., "I hate AN, it killed all my plants"............sure it did bro, sure it did......

Enough bullshit, back to wiring........

 

[Snowblind]

Wow, I've not heard of most of those, apart from lucas formula', that's what I do now. GH flora series 0/8/16 under a 400w HPS.

I think lucas formula' is pretty sweet so i'd be really interested to find out about what Snowblinds up too especially as he's moved on from Lucas to a better way!

Can you tell me more Snowblind please? have you got any links or such?
Also why do you think its better than Lucas'? is it yield or taste?? can't be for ease of use, Lucas' is brain dead simple.

Thanks for the reply's dude, I got some good stuff to look at there!

...BudZ...

It is a lot to get into and right now I dont have the time because I need to get ready for work. I also really dont want to offend anyone. A lot of people grow a certain way and get results that make them happy so I dont want to piss those people off.

Most people do not understand, nor do they care to learn the elemental breakdown of what they are feeding their plants! If you dont know the exact elemental percentages of your nutes, then you are basically out of touch with your plants and unable to fully understand whatever it is that they might be trying to tell you. Are you just mixing up your nutes with no calculator? Lucas was big on understanding these numbers, so for this he is spot on and a good influence!

Lucas was good for getting me to understand the PPM and percentages of elements of what I was giving the plants. His numbers however are based on the work of a dude named PH and Mel Frank. Its now 2011 and tissue samples are and have been done on pot plants. The numbers from tissue sample are not what Lucas uses! You need way less Phosphorus in your nutes for example!

With Jacks in Flower im close to these numbers!

N...113
P.....41
K....171
Ca...90
Mg...50
S.....65

535 elemental ppm
Keep at 5.7 ph
3 grams per gal Jacks Pro Hydro Special (A)
1.8 grams per gal CaN03 calcium nitrate (B)

Ph rises a lot so I add ph down. Depending on what you use it will add a little N or P to your numbers. When you recirculate you can buffer ph by running a slightly different profile, however, I stay on top of my PH chages every day. A lot of people dont have either the time or the urge to do this. When your ph is buffered there is little fluctuation.

The Jacks is very cheap. It costs more to ship it then to buy the nutes themselves!

I add epsom salts for Mag as needed...

I like the Ca:N ratio of .8 and the N:P ratio of .66 and the K:P at 4.17 a great deal. Those are very close to what I want to shoot for...

To recirculate without chaging your reso, like Lucas, is also a very bad practice. Not to offend anyone, but this the hallmark of lazy growing. When you addback nutes to standing reso water you have no idea what your plants have consumed or what they need or what will be in the nute mix. You never know where you are at. The overal ppm reading at this point will not reveal the exact elemental percentages. How much Nitrogen, how much calcium, how much Phosphorus is in your mix? You need to know these numbers!When you grow in soil in a sense you never know quite where you are at in terms of the root zone and whats being taken in. Hydro gives you more control at the root zone over the uptake of nutes. You need to utilize this control. Changing your reso at least once a week is a start. Add back only water and ph down to 5.7 at all times! Idealy you would change your reso at least every three days. Once a week at minimum.

Let me put it like this. You dont drink water, piss it out then drink it all over again do you? You drain to waste your own nutrients from your body. Why would you make your plants drink their own waste water over and over and over? That is a bad idea. It does not make any sense at all to me now. I cant believe that I would not change my reso before for weeks and felt so clever. Now I realize I was a dumbass!

When you feed the plants a balenced formula such as Jacks you need little to no flush at all. The weed will burn to a clean grey ash with little to know flush. Here is a link to a great thread on another forum. This thread is very long and very informative. I would take the time to read the entire thread too. If you read this entire thread you will be a better grower! The disscussion of Jacks Hydroponic formula starts up kinda later so keep reading to find it. After using the Jacks Hydro formula I feel that it is the easiest product to use with the best results. Crazy results!



Really a great thread!



They make the Jack Hydroponic Formula.

You can grow weed a lot of ways with a lot of formulas so to each their own. I used Lucas at first and thought my plants looked good, however, looking back now I see that they were not optimized all always lacked something! I see deficiencies with most pictures posted on the internet of pot plants. Your plants have a language, and you need to learn it.

I would never buy a AN product and the entire fert industry is a joke! Be very carefull what you purchase and understand that nutes are basic salts and nothing more. Really nothing more. You can easily make your own nutes, but that is a different disscussion. You might not like the Fatman, but we have a great thread on the Farm here about making your own nutes. Again I would encourage everyone to read this thread to better understand whats up with fertilizers in general.


Ive already had plants grow so big with Jacks that I lost control of them! Best yield, taste and overall health so far. Is Jacks the best? Well no, but it is a good base to start and understand whats really going on with your plants....let me know if you have some specific questions......anyone else here reading this using the Jacks Hydroponic formula with Ca Nitrate?

 

[Venom818]

Venom you are right, that is some schwagg, where are all the trichomes? LOL.

I would love to see what you produced with AN. I really did not like working with AN, but I have seen some great results with their line. What I didn't really like about them is the discontinuity between their info. Their bottles gave one ratio, their formula generator from their website gave another ratio, and when I would call to clarify I got another answer. I can say following the formula's AN set out is not a good idea.

I use gh or advanced 3 part and get the same results maybe even just a bit better with advanced but i dont use all the additives from advanced.Its weird at my hydro shop the liter of gh 3 part is cheaper than advanced 3 part but the gallon of advanced 3 part is cheaper than the gallon of gh 3 part

 

[Green Supreme]

Funny you call it lazy mans way, seems to me that's what most are looking for. Less work, bigger, faster, stronger. All in one planty. Hey I have this magic pill. You just add it when you plant. From there all you need to do is water. All of the above things guaranteed. Thing is the pill is very pricey and voila, you have the nutrient and diet industry. LOL. Peace GS

ps. it's what people want

 

[ibTheMan]

most of my fert arsenal. ive got ah few more of AN bull stuff.