Why Are My Plants So Small?

kushwrldwide · Mar 21, 2017

Hi, i would like some advice before I plant again.. my first 8 plants seemed to be small, I'm pretty sure I know why, but I would like a few other opinions.

(12 weeks)
Now I started the grow with a 4 bulb t5 and about week 6 of veg I put the 8 bulb T5 up and they didn't really grow much after that, they just got alittle wider. So I think they didn't have the light they needed for the first couple weeks.

(I was using fox farms hydro calender with all the neuts)

Advise?

hiboy · Mar 21, 2017

Gotta grow decent size veg plants before flipping
Also topping is good to make them bush out
Hb

jmpnjackhash · Mar 21, 2017

You need to keep those T5's very close all of the time,within 2" of the bulbs with a small
fan blowing between the bulbs and the plants makes a huge difference.
Are those bloom bulbs in the fixture currently? They look really white.

PharmHand · Mar 21, 2017

Yea you need a little more light intensity. Drop a 315cmh in there you'll be very happy

Dutch Jon · Mar 22, 2017

Well they made some buds for you. A couple things it looks that they hardly been veg'ed I would say is the main thing and you may know when they have nitrogen toxicity or a degree of they will slow or stall and your leaves are showing this may be the case, you really want to back off on nitrogen in bloom it will also keep them from finishing which looks like What's Happening Here . . You might get a grip on the correct pH for whatever your growing in.

Otherwise you've got plenty of buds for what they got to work with

iKharon · Mar 22, 2017

That's what I was thinking.. doesn't look like they were vegged much.. almost looks like an angry autoflower strain

GrowGod · Mar 22, 2017

Weak light. T5's are for veg, use hps for flower.

iKharon · Mar 22, 2017

GrowGod said:
Weak light. T5's are for veg, use hps for flower.

Def can't flower with t5's and expect a decent yield... couple oz's maybe.

rmoltis · Mar 22, 2017

GrowGod said:
Weak light. T5's are for veg, use hps for flower.

T5s can work wonderful for flower.
Here are my flowering ladies under t5 lighting.

#3 under 2' 4 bulbs

The beast clone under 2' 12 bulbs

Your t5 fixture is no slouch.
But you need to keep it 2-3" above the canopy for best results.

You will also want to train your girls more with a longer veg.

With t5 lighting you want a nice even canopy with many tops. That way you will focus most of the plant growth up top where the best light is.

This will help you with size and yield.
t5 lighting makes better flowers than people expect.

You Just need practice that's all :)

Dutch Jon · Mar 22, 2017

rmoltis said:
T5s can work wonderful for flower.
Here are my flowering ladies under t5 lighting.

#3 under 2' 4 bulbs
View attachment 682225 View attachment 682226 View attachment 682227

The beast clone under 2' 12 bulbs View attachment 682228 View attachment 682229

Your t5 fixture is no slouch.
But you need to keep it 2-3" above the canopy for best results.

You will also want to train your girls more with a longer veg.

With t5 lighting you want a nice even canopy with many tops. That way you will focus most of the plant growth up top where the best light is.

This will help you with size and yield.
t5 lighting makes better flowers than people expect.

You Just need practice that's all :)

Thanks rmoltis

I was going to bring out that fact but didn't want to sound argumentative being fairly newly active here

rmoltis · Mar 22, 2017

Dutch Jon said:
Thanks rmoltis

I was going to bring out that fact but didn't want to sound argumentative being fairly newly active here

No problem.

I just don't want to see you get discouraged that your t5 fixture doesn't work well.

It does work well and can. You Just need practice.

One day you'll come back to this thread as the t5 master :)

Dutch Jon · Mar 22, 2017

Thanks, , I'm laughing a little bit I wasn't the original poster but I'll accept the comment and ditto it to @kushwrldwide (OP)

: )

rmoltis · Mar 22, 2017

Dutch Jon said:
Thanks, , I'm laughing a little bit I wasn't the original poster but I'll accept the comment and ditto it to Kushwrldwide (OP)

: )

Lol. Hey I want everyone to be the best growers.

Once everyone is the best. There will be nothing but quality herb everywhere .

That's something I could get used to:)

GrowGod · Mar 22, 2017

rmoltis said:
T5s can work wonderful for flower.
Here are my flowering ladies under t5 lighting.

#3 under 2' 4 bulbs
View attachment 682225 View attachment 682226 View attachment 682227

The beast clone under 2' 12 bulbs View attachment 682228 View attachment 682229

Your t5 fixture is no slouch.
But you need to keep it 2-3" above the canopy for best results.

You will also want to train your girls more with a longer veg.

With t5 lighting you want a nice even canopy with many tops. That way you will focus most of the plant growth up top where the best light is.

This will help you with size and yield.
t5 lighting makes better flowers than people expect.

You Just need practice that's all :)

Your absolutely right they can work. And your quality is top notch. But Your style is very time consuming. It's all perspective. To be as efficient as possible hps wins hands down everytime.
I can get that same growth the first two weeks of bloom cutting out a month of veg time.;)
But there's also lots more pieces that are at play like medium, mineral or organic , foilars, room variables etc.
These were flipped to bloom on 3/15 and everything was under the net.

rmoltis · Mar 22, 2017

GrowGod said:
Your absolutely right they can work. And your quality is top notch. But Your style is very time consuming. It's all perspective. To be as efficient as possible hps wins hands down everytime.
I can get that same growth the first two weeks of bloom cutting out a month of veg time.;)
But there's also lots more pieces that are at play like medium, mineral or organic , foilars, room variables etc.
These were flipped to bloom on 3/15 and everything was under the net. View attachment 682362 View attachment 682363 View attachment 682364 View attachment 682365

Those are good points yes and I agree completely.

Every different light source has different quirks.

We each must weigh our options carefully and pick what will work best for each of our situations.

that beast cllone vegged for 23 days from the day she was placed in soil until the day she was flipped.

GrowGod · Mar 22, 2017

rmoltis said:
Those are good points yes and I agree completely.

Every different light source has different quirks.

We each must weigh our options carefully and pick what will work best for each of our situations.

that beast clon vegged for 23 days from the day she was placed in soil until the day she was flipped.

That's what makes this plant so fun to grow and be part of. There is many ways to do it with success :smoking:

rmoltis · Mar 22, 2017

GrowGod said:
There is many ways to do it with success :smoking:

That right there has to be the hardest part for a new grower to figure out.

It is a very valuable piece of insight.

Don't think what your doing is ever right or wrong.

Rather,
Think what makes it different.
Then think how you can make it work.

kushwrldwide · Mar 29, 2017

jmpnjackhash said:
You need to keep those T5's very close all of the time,within 2" of the bulbs with a small
fan blowing between the bulbs and the plants makes a huge difference.
Are those bloom bulbs in the fixture currently? They look really white.

They're the bulbs that came with the fixture

kushwrldwide · Mar 29, 2017

PharmHand said:
Yea you need a little more light intensity. Drop a 315cmh in there you'll be very happy[/QUOTE
Along side of the t5s or just the 315cmh?

kushwrldwide · Mar 29, 2017

iKharon said:
That's what I was thinking.. doesn't look like they were vegged much.. almost looks like an angry autoflower strain

Idk about angry, but they're autoflower

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