It's sort of different for us. We are all growers and brokers and smugglers. It's kind of a weird group. It's frustrating to be the only guy that likes weird smoke. They don't even like OG kush. No matter how authentic.Sounds like you need to find some new friends. Sounds lame to me we smoke everything where Im from LOL
Yeah you grow these new strains. Slave over them. Make them perfect. And they take one puff. And light up a kush bat. Like trying to share good bourbon with vodka drinkers.lol weed snobs are so cool.
iSounds like you need to find some new friends. Sounds lame to me we smoke everything where Im from LOL
the exact type of people that shouldn’t be in the business.It's sort of different for us. We are all growers and brokers and smugglers. It's kind of a weird group. It's frustrating to be the only guy that likes weird smoke. They don't even like OG kush. No matter how authentic.
Well to be fair the task is looking at a bag and smelling it. And saying yes or no. They do know what the buyer wants. And they are effective at it. It's regional. It's mostly about what it looks and smells like. You don't even smoke it first. Just look and smell matter. And innovation doesn't make any money. When people want their Marlboro they want Marlboro. Thats led me on a hunt for something new. And it's been rough. Once you've seen millions of packs you end up just smoking one of a handful of kinds from a handful of people. It is very limiting. But when a new strain gets hot it's worth the effort.i
the exact type of people that shouldn’t be in the business.
more about their image than what’s right..
i have no time for people like that anymore..
I've read through the thread but I have to comment on this ... Michigan Resident. All dispensary products are supposed to be tested and THC content is supposed to be displayed on the label after you purchase your weed ... BUT ... There is great incentive for the testing lab and the dispensary to inflate these numbers. It's happened. People have gotten caught and labs have lost their license.
I gave up on dispensary weed. It's cost has gotten outrageously high and the quality of the product is frequently below expectations.
Why are you worried about what they like?Well. Most are. But it's mostly becuase around here kush is king. And all the exotics end up being terrible. All they want to do is eat chicken and rice and smoke kush. Some guys will only smoke blunts. Sometimes guys will only do dabs unless you have a specific kush strain. It's just weird. I grew awesome chemdawg, bruce banner and a lemon garlic. Had all three tasting and looking great. And they literally looked at the stuff with disgust. It's like I'm the only guy still trying to find new smokes. They just refuse. Makes it super hard to get anything new going on.
That's the money part. If we find something really good. It becomes part of the regular rotation and then we have loads of it to offer. And when your bring something new and hot you can get top dollar for at least a year or two. Like when Pink Kush became popular. It's fine to grow personal and find some strains. But it's also really valuable when you find a solid Kush that grows easy and yields well. Like having a hit single. I just want to be the one to find that next big hit. And I want there to be more options. I'm alone on this quest though. Everyone else sticks to what they know. I did get the Bruce Banner to be available. But it was never popular. But it's a start.Why are you worried about what they like?
You got Bruce Banner available? That's sick. There ended up being Bruce #3, and other ways to make $ off the nameThat's the money part. If we find something really good. It becomes part of the regular rotation and then we have loads of it to offer. And when your bring something new and hot you can get top dollar for at least a year or two. Like when Pink Kush became popular. It's fine to grow personal and find some strains. But it's also really valuable when you find a solid Kush that grows easy and yields well. Like having a hit single. I just want to be the one to find that next big hit. And I want there to be more options. I'm alone on this quest though. Everyone else sticks to what they know. I did get the Bruce Banner to be available. But it was never popular. But it's a start.
I do have about 50 seeds or so of bruce banner..however .. its from a crop that is feminized. So you can grow these nice plants. But they're always going to drop some seeds..and if you let the buds get too big they're going to get root rot. The clones of the ones I did still live on as clones and mothers. But I wouldn't grow these Bruce Banner seeds. They're too feminized. Need to get regular seeds and start again. And the flavor on the batches always was too peppery and had almost too smooth a flavor.You got Bruce Banner available? That's sick. There ended up being Bruce #3, and other ways to make $ off the name
It was popular where I was for a bit. If I remember it was very potent.
The original Blue Dream was excellent quality, yielded upreal, and single handedly dropped market value on bud in general.
It was a great strain, but there was so much of it, People just didn't want it anymore.
There's now a flavor of the month, monthly.
What happened to all those "Cookie" strains? I don't know if I've seen 1 pic since I'm back around
You are talking about customers?That's the money part. If we find something really good. It becomes part of the regular rotation and then we have loads of it to offer. And when your bring something new and hot you can get top dollar for at least a year or two. Like when Pink Kush became popular. It's fine to grow personal and find some strains. But it's also really valuable when you find a solid Kush that grows easy and yields well. Like having a hit single. I just want to be the one to find that next big hit. And I want there to be more options. I'm alone on this quest though. Everyone else sticks to what they know. I did get the Bruce Banner to be available. But it was never popular. But it's a start.
I’m in a seed to sell state, which means licenses are purchased by large corporations and the license requires them to be responsible from seed to sellin only in there store 100% corrupt they make up numbers as they go and the consumer smokes it up ! It’s horrible hereIn my local market there is an immense amount of corruption for lack of a better word. In terms of flavor I liken the existing cannabis market to the very early craft beer market in some ways. To break those two statements down better here is what I mean.
With regards to the "Corruption" aspect there is a significant amount of fudging on numbers when it comes to recreational cannabis. There are a limited number of testing facilities and growers shop those that are willing to give them the numbers they want. This is compounded by crop sampling for highest THC samples and then submitting those as representative of a much larger batch when in fact they are no such thing. Large corporations own multiple licenses for different types of facilities and can grow, test and market their product without any independent oversight (for the most part).
A strain does not yield a specific THC amount by genetics alone, the entire lifecycle of the plant determines this and it can vary wildly with the same seeds from grow to grow. Thats why a stable and consistent grow environment is essential for creating consistent product. It doesnt matter what seeds you buy, if you bash the grow, sometimes even slightly, you struggle to break 20%.
When I tried my very first dispensary weed I was stunned. I ended up throwing it out because it tasted like tobacco. Smell was decent but flavor... garbage. The economic pressure to quickly produce and bring to market product results in mass production shortcuts that are designed to increase profitablity - not quality. Think Budweiser. Mass produced, does the job... flavor - yeah not so much. High ABV... nah. The time and care it takes to make a great quality craft beer is vastly different than knocking out millions of gallons of average swill that many people will buy and never know the difference. Harvesting, trimming, drying and curing in the fastest, cheapest way possible is not going to yield high end results.
Thats why there is room for real craft growers somewhere in the market, but it has not matured to that point yet, at least not here. Large scale, corporate operations are going to maintain an iron grip on the distribution chain through political contributions and other shenanagins for as long as they can.
Yes I've heard there is a ton of corruption in the legal weed market. Extremely inflated numbers only fool the uninformed. Most adults with half a brain know that brown weed that smells like hay is not gonna be 30% the real victim is the younger smokers who actually believe what they are smoking is that strong and then refuse to smoke anything but dispensary bud even though Its complete garbage and extremely over priced.I’m in a seed to sell state, which means licenses are purchased by large corporations and the license requires them to be responsible from seed to sellin only in there store 100% corrupt they make up numbers as they go and the consumer smokes it up ! It’s horrible here
Clone houses and bulk buyers mostly. People that want lots of clones aswell.You are talking about customers?
Gotcha.Clone houses and bulk buyers mostly. People that want lots of clones aswell.
Well, I wasn't a fan of the Golden Goat I had. It was dispensary weed that didn't live up to it's billing. It's quite possible some grown and cured properly might change my perspective on it. That Lemon Sunrise sounds good, and I've already been contemplating Lemon Tree by Barney's Farm in a future grow. It's not a true Sativa. It's more of a Sativa leaning hybrid. I may have to look into that Lemon Sunrise you suggested. There's not a thing wrong with a good Sativa for a Saturday or Sunday afternoon!Try Golden Goat or Lemon Sunrise if you don't think there are powerful sativa doms out there.
Lemon Sunrise has a kush grandparent. For newbies, smoking it is a little like sticking your tongue in an electric outlet.
I grew both of them. Haven't tried any from dispensaries.Well, I wasn't a fan of the Golden Goat I had. It was dispensary weed that didn't live up to it's billing. It's quite possible some grown and cured properly might change my perspective on it. That Lemon Sunrise sounds good, and I've already been contemplating Lemon Tree by Barney's Farm in a future grow. It's not a true Sativa. It's more of a Sativa leaning hybrid. I may have to look into that Lemon Sunrise you suggested. There's not a thing wrong with a good Sativa for a Saturday or Sunday afternoon!
I didn't get shutdown. Although during the shutdown, all travel was by corporate jet and not commercial flights and that part was very nice. I was in Chicago last spring (2020) when the city was hit hard. Dallas during the summer (2020) during some of their worst surges. I've been in Atlanta, Pennsylvania and Kentucky so far this year. Only Atlanta was a commercial flight and that was about a month ago. Fortunately, for the last few weeks and for the foreseeable future, all machine installs have been in the next town over. I've been able to stay at home.I grew both of them. Haven't tried any from dispensaries.
LS has the edginess that seemed to have been bred out of a lot of today's sativa doms, which is one of the effects I love about it. I discovered, during the shutdown, that it is very easy to fall into a morning smoke habit with it.
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