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I think clorophyll iz only part of the problems. The 84 cannabinoids iz a LOT of complex chemicals to break down.Didn't forget. The poster I was responding to said the chlorophyll upsets their stomach.
It sounds like this person is more interested in eating it.
I think clorophyll iz only part of the problems. The 84 cannabinoids iz a LOT of complex chemicals to break down.
Have you checked Craig's list for home winterizing service?Hi there, this thread is great. I am planning to winterizing my house, heater, pipes and purifier. While discussing with my friend, he suggested me to visit NYC moving company who provides winterizing service. Do you have any suggestions?
What you want to do is quicker washes with polar solvents. Chlorophyll will upset stomachs.
Does this mean anytime you eat vegetables like lettuce, celery, kale etc you get an upset stomach? They also have chlorophyll.
I'm just curious about how online it says chlorophyll in weed upsets people stomach. Yet people eat vegetables and plants with chlorophyll all the time.
I think this is just another myth.
I've eaten 40+ fresh cannabis leaves at once full of live fresh chlorophyll and if anything it only made my farts smell like straight up chronic.
And I've got a very sensitive stomach.
I'd like to believe it's another compound in cannabis causing the upset stomach.
(Just my opinion)
Sorry I didn't add anything constructive to this thread
What exactly is filtered out of the alcohol when you do the winterizing step. The process is to put the alcohol solution in the freezer for a day or so and then cold filter through a coffee filter in the freezer keeping it cold the whole time. The stuff that comes out looks really awful. I am just curious if it is mostly chlorphyl or just other plant material that is not needed?
Any suggestions on how to make RSO cleaner?
I currently farm very carefully and am not using any pesticides/fungicides at all. If I need some help with bugs during past grows I have been going to good bugs and then OMRI/KIND rated natural pesticides only when absolutely needed.
Thanks!
DP
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Decarb the material first? Or no need when doing this freeze method?Freeze everything (material and alcohol) separately before the wash. Then do a 30 second wash. Put that aside and do a 2nd and 3rd wash and keep them separate. That way you can see when the chlorophyl starts to emerge in the alcohol. Don't shake..stir. Not necessary to winterize.
What exactly is filtered out of the alcohol when you do the winterizing step. The process is to put the alcohol solution in the freezer for a day or so and then cold filter through a coffee filter in the freezer keeping it cold the whole time. The stuff that comes out looks really awful. I am just curious if it is mostly chlorphyl or just other plant material that is not needed?
Any suggestions on how to make RSO cleaner?
I currently farm very carefully and am not using any pesticides/fungicides at all. If I need some help with bugs during past grows I have been going to good bugs and then OMRI/KIND rated natural pesticides only when absolutely needed.
Thanks!
DP
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Does this mean anytime you eat vegetables like lettuce, celery, kale etc you get an upset stomach? They also have chlorophyll.
I'm just curious about how online it says chlorophyll in weed upsets people stomach. Yet people eat vegetables and plants with chlorophyll all the time.
I think this is just another myth.
I've eaten 40+ fresh cannabis leaves at once full of live fresh chlorophyll and if anything it only made my farts smell like straight up chronic.
And I've got a very sensitive stomach.
I'd like to believe it's another compound in cannabis causing the upset stomach.
(Just my opinion)
Sorry I didn't add anything constructive to this thread
Winterizing removes the C-21 through about C-34 plant fatty acids and plant waxes.What exactly is filtered out of the alcohol when you do the winterizing step. The process is to put the alcohol solution in the freezer for a day or so and then cold filter through a coffee filter in the freezer keeping it cold the whole time. The stuff that comes out looks really awful. I am just curious if it is mostly chlorphyl or just other plant material that is not needed?
Any suggestions on how to make RSO cleaner?
I currently farm very carefully and am not using any pesticides/fungicides at all. If I need some help with bugs during past grows I have been going to good bugs and then OMRI/KIND rated natural pesticides only when absolutely needed.
Thanks!
DP
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Next time I'll freeze the plant material and ethenol as well. Hopefully that well help. Been studying Chemistry at a big university online and it is super interesting and I am starting to understand the effects of solvents etc.Winterizing removes the C-21 through about C-34 plant fatty acids and plant waxes.
The chlorophyll stays in solution and is not removed by the process, though if saturated may leave some behind from the drop in temperature and solubility.
Chlorophyll is polar due to the magnesium ion in its head, so polar solvents like alcohol readily dissolve it and hold it in solution, but the polarity of ethanol drops with temperature as well.
Chlorophyll is not easy to remove without giving up some of the good stuff, so better to avoid extracting it in the first place.
Unfortunately the tables don't copy gracefully, and the site is off line, but here is the opening to Sweet Mary's Charms, which provides a link to an article identifying 421 compounds on cannabis, far beyond just terpenes and cannabinoids.One of the reasons I am so interested in the chemicals in the oil (and preserving them) other than just the THC and CBD/CBN is there are literally hundreds of medical studies listed in the NIH library that show terpenes and other phytochemicals have incredible properties for treating illnesses especially cancer. Many of the terpenes that have been studied are exactly the same ones that show up in quality cannabis. According to many of the articles it looks like they may be a key part of why RSO and the ingredients (not just THC and CBD) in cannabis are so promising for cancer and dozens of other diseases. It seems like anytime the researchers isolate and test one of these chemicals alone the results are disappointing but when used together the way they are presented to us in nature seems to be where the magic happens.
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If you lower the temperature of the ethanol to below -50C by dropping dry ice in it, you can soak and agitate the material in it, without picking up much chlorophyll or plant waxes.Next time I'll freeze the plant material and ethenol as well. Hopefully that well help. Been studying Chemistry at a big university online and it is super interesting and I am starting to understand the effects of solvents etc.
Good gawd if high school had not killed every subject that I took including chemistry I wonder how much more I could have learned already.
Thanks!
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Very cool. My original motivation in using RSO is that it is the whole plant extract (well probably close). Any benefit nature put in to the combination of chemicals is mostly there then (my hope). It has been very effective for me......lost 70lbs, no longer diabetic, sleep apnea gone, Fibro Myalgia pain completely controlled, migraines reduced and on and on.Unfortunately the tables don't copy gracefully, and the site is off line, but here is the opening to Sweet Mary's Charms, which provides a link to an article identifying 421 compounds on cannabis, far beyond just terpenes and cannabinoids.
3.8 Sweet Mary's Charms II
A summary of the extensive work done on the paper Constituents of Cannabis Sativa L XVII, A Review of the Natural Constituents, by Turner, Elsohly, and Boeren at the Research Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, School of Pharmacy,University of Mississippi.
Dr. Fischedick was kind enough to provide me with a copy of a paper done at Old Miss, as part of my research on the THC and CBN cycles. A lengthy tome, which details the 421 compounds they found in Sweet Mary, ranging from our beloved cannabinoids, terpenes, and flavonoids, to alkaloids and Alkane hydrocarbons.
To say that I was blown away, would be an understatement, and puts new meaning to the term "Whole Plant Extract."
ASP Publications can provide the whole article at: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/np50008a001
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