Wishbone’s Outdoor - Round 2

SmithsJunk · Sep 16, 2018

Wishbone said:
And the little guy.
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Looking pretty good but maybe lacking a bit of nitrogen. Do you have a test kit or a local store that will test your soil for you? They aren't necessarily deficient, some strains like my Creamsicle are yellowish no matter what we give them, but never hurts to check. I've found a little Cal/Mag and B-vites can help with this sometimes as well.

Sorry about my late response. My WiFi is 100% cellular and my reception is sh*t right now. Thought it was the weather at first but found out it's because my COB lights are causin massive interference. Go figure. So I missed some notifications. Trying to catch up now but my access is hit or miss.

With all that you've been through (ie, that super hot run of days) I think you're doing brilliantly. Please don't take my earlier observation as a put down. I just want you to have an excellent harvest my brother.

SmithsJunk · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
Looking pretty good but maybe lacking a bit of nitrogen. Do you have a test kit or a local store that will test your soil for you? They aren't necessarily deficient, some strains like my Creamsicle are yellowish no matter what we give them, but never hurts to check. I've found a little Cal/Mag and B-vites can help with this sometimes as well.

Sorry about my late response. My WiFi is 100% cellular and my reception is sh*t right now. Thought it was the weather at first but found out it's because my COB lights are causin massive interference. Go figure. So I missed some notifications. Trying to catch up now but my access is hit or miss.

With all that you've been through (ie, that super hot run of days) I think you're doing brilliantly. Please don't take my earlier observation as a put down. I just want you to have an excellent harvest my brother.

...and an FYI, if you didn't already know, Cal/Mag has nitrogen so you can kill two birds, one stone.

PS, Humic fulvic also did wonders for me last year when I was struggling with my yellow Creamsicle.

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
Looking pretty good but maybe lacking a bit of nitrogen. Do you have a test kit or a local store that will test your soil for you? They aren't necessarily deficient, some strains like my Creamsicle are yellowish no matter what we give them, but never hurts to check. I've found a little Cal/Mag and B-vites can help with this sometimes as well.

Sorry about my late response. My WiFi is 100% cellular and my reception is sh*t right now. Thought it was the weather at first but found out it's because my COB lights are causin massive interference. Go figure. So I missed some notifications. Trying to catch up now but my access is hit or miss.

With all that you've been through (ie, that super hot run of days) I think you're doing brilliantly. Please don't take my earlier observation as a put down. I just want you to have an excellent harvest my brother.

Thanks man, are you talking about just the little guy? I haven’t checked the soil, and really have been neglecting it other than water kinda on purpose to see what happens lol, it will yield maybe a quarter or two at best. I hit her this morning with some of the juice I have been feeding the one TW for good measure.

Or are you referring to the other girls? The TWs are fading pretty good now, but they are getting pretty close to harvest compared to the rest of em.

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
...and an FYI, if you didn't already know, Cal/Mag has nitrogen so you can kill two birds, one stone.

PS, Humic fulvic also did wonders for me last year when I was struggling with my yellow Creamsicle.

The mix going on the TW does include cal mag, didn’t add any veg nutes.

SmithsJunk · Sep 16, 2018

Wishbone said:
The mix going on the TW does include cal mag, didn’t add any veg nutes.

I saw the yellowing on all of them, but it sounds like you've already got it handled.

Right on. Maybe next grow check out the humic fulvic. It's more effective early on in the veg cycle but can still benefit in the flower stage. I used AN Ancient Earth last year and it help tremendously. Couldn't afford it this time. Would go a long way in small pots but 100-200gal pots require a lot.

The Creamsicle has been a real pain in the a$$ with it's constant nitrogen problems. I guess she's one of those "hard to grow" plants. I added Cal/Mag formulated for hydro 8 days ago for a quicker uptake and doubled the Tiger Bloom 3 days ago. She's responding better than I expected. Twice as green in the last 3 days and she's pretty far along. I added more Tiger Bloom to extend the flowering time but the pretty green was a most favorable unexpected consequence...

FutureGrower · Sep 16, 2018

Post some update pics when you get a chance buddy. One of my favorite threads :)

SmithsJunk · Sep 16, 2018

What little experience I have has taught me feeding my girls is only half the process. If I want those big beauties like I see @Greatlakes is growing I have to hone my skills at creating a favorable soil environment for unhindered nutrient uptake. I think your no-till technique is a good start to that and will get better each year as your soil builds those nutrient superhighways. Have you seen her plants, they're unbelievable? Straight up guru level.

Greatlakes · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
What little experience I have has taught me feeding my girls is only half the process. If I want those big beauties like I see @Greatlakes is growing I have to hone my skills at creating a favorable soil environment for unhindered nutrient uptake. I think your no-till technique is a good start to that and will get better each year as your soil builds those nutrient superhighways. Have you seen her plants, they're unbelievable? Straight up guru level.

Awe...shucks...thanks :)

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
I saw the yellowing on all of them, but it sounds like you've already got it handled.

Right on. Maybe next grow check out the humic fulvic. It's more effective early on in the veg cycle but can still benefit in the flower stage. I used AN Ancient Earth last year and it help tremendously. Couldn't afford it this time. Would go a long way in small pots but 100-200gal pots require a lot.
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The Creamsicle has been a real pain in the a$$ with it's constant nitrogen problems. I guess she's one of those "hard to grow" plants. I added Cal/Mag formulated for hydro 8 days ago for a quicker uptake and doubled the Tiger Bloom 3 days ago. She's responding better than I expected. Twice as green in the last 3 days and she's pretty far along. I added more Tiger Bloom to extend the flowering time but the pretty green was a most favorable unexpected consequence...
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So everything other than the one TW is in the no till soil, so they haven’t been getting anything other than malted barley, molasses and recently seabird guano that’s high P. I do agree they could be a bit greener, the 9#s are def darker green than the Stardawg and blue, I think I need some more neem meal or similar in the initial soil mix. I have a pretty good list going of improvements for next year, and that is one of them, the main one is better canopy management. I severely underestimated their size and stretch and what to do with it, next year I think I am going to mainline then scrog the shit out of them for a lower, denser and more efficient canopy.

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

Greatlakes said:
Awe...shucks...thanks :)

I have, beasts!

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
What little experience I have has taught me feeding my girls is only half the process. If I want those big beauties like I see @Greatlakes is growing I have to hone my skills at creating a favorable soil environment for unhindered nutrient uptake. I think your no-till technique is a good start to that and will get better each year as your soil builds those nutrient superhighways. Have you seen her plants, they're unbelievable? Straight up guru level.

Agreed, I am going to look into some shit as an amendment, but for sure there is more to it than just adding ingredients.

SmithsJunk · Sep 16, 2018

Wishbone said:
So everything other than the one TW is in the no till soil, so they haven’t been getting anything other than malted barley, molasses and recently seabird guano that’s high P. I do agree they could be a bit greener, the 9#s are def darker green than the Stardawg and blue, I think I need some more neem meal or similar in the initial soil mix. I have a pretty good list going of improvements for next year, and that is one of them, the main one is better canopy management. I severely underestimated their size and stretch and what to do with it, next year I think I am going to mainline then scrog the shit out of them for a lower, denser and more efficient canopy.

...and it will all fall apart in process and you'll quickly adjust your techniques to compensate.... hahaha... growing cannabis is the best challenge I've ever had.

-Murphey's Law

I think you're going to have a great grow next year and a good yield this year. By the third year it's gonna look like a fairy garden. You struggled so hard when it first started with that jacked up heat wave. Without that I think you would have had a super lush grow this year. You may find not many adjustments are needed next year. It was a pretty hard start at over 100F for weeks. In a normal year all the things you're doing would have been more than sufficient. Agreed on the canopy control. That one got me this year too. I miss my shade cloth.

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

FutureGrower said:
Post some update pics when you get a chance buddy. One of my favorite threads :)

Thanks! Nothing new really from the last update, Stardawg and blueberry are getting a better frost going, not sure how they will turn out given they are an unknown cross, but we’ll see. I’ll get some update pics next week when things have progressed a bit more.

Wishbone · Sep 16, 2018

SmithsJunk said:
...and it will all fall apart in process and you'll quickly adjust your techniques to compensate.... hahaha... growing cannabis is the best challenge I've ever had.

-Murphey's Law

I think you're going to have a great grow next year and a good yield this year. By the third year it's gonna look like a fairy garden. You struggled so hard when it first started with that jacked up heat wave. Without that I think you would have had a super lush grow this year. You may find not many adjustments are needed next year. It was a pretty hard start at over 100F for weeks. In a normal year all the things you're doing would have been more than sufficient. Agreed on the canopy control. That one got me this year too. I miss my shade cloth.

Lol, for sure.

Yep, I did make the midseason update of the exhaust fan so having that from the get go will certainly help. Going to add more fans and have everything setup better before the plants get too big as well, been a very reactive instead of proactive grow this year.

Wishbone · Sep 25, 2018

Harvest is getting closer! The Purple Wreck will be ready in the next week, I’ll probably chop one this weekend then the other two over the following week, pretty much all cloudy and maybe 5% Amber. I was hoping it would swell a bit further, but buds are nice and dense, just more, smaller ones. Thinking 1.5-2 oz per plant.

9#, Stardawg and blueberry are coming along, still have a ways to go, mid-end of October I’m thinking.

Weather has been amazing all of September but I think we’ll be getting some cooler weather here soon, going so start with Actinovate tomorrow to get ahead of any blights that might head this way. Still no sign of aphids or cats, only a few gnats remain.

TW

9#

Stardawg

Blueberry

The gang, tough to capture.

And the little guy, definitely sure it’s Blueberry now.

FutureGrower · Sep 26, 2018

Looking amazing man! I'll m still jealous of the greenhouse I can't have one here lol

Wishbone · Sep 26, 2018

FutureGrower said:
Looking amazing man! I'll m still jealous of the greenhouse I can't have one here lol

Thanks, happy with how’s things are progressing, getting towards the finish line.

Wishbone · Sep 29, 2018

Here are the three Purple Trainwrecks, two of them have been hiding in the corner. I was going to pull one of them today and throw it in the tent I just got for a few days in timeout before chop, but I wasn’t seeing the amount of cloudy trichs I was wanting so will give it another day or two. The other two will come down a few days later. The purps are just now starting to come out in the leaf tips on the buds, I contribute this to the low temps that have been in the upper 30s low 40s for the past week or so.

Wishbone · Oct 2, 2018

Last pic of the wreck before chop, cut one last night, other two are coming down tonight.

FutureGrower · Oct 2, 2018

Wishbone said:
Last pic of the wreck before chop, cut one last night, other two are coming down tonight.

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Looking amazing man! After the dry and cure is done let us know if theres a difference in smoke between the nute side and the living soil:)

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