the buds were smelling nice skunky until high humidity today then lost smell anone alse ???

[Bo0m]

I tried it that way once.... Such a PITA to trim the small dry sugar leaves it took forever. It was almost easier to pull them with a pair of tweezers!

I do not load my drying racks very full I do not stack buds on top of buds. I feel that the drying time has increased synch switching to the racks. Before I would chop a branch off, wet trim, and hang from a string until dry, then cut off nugs and brown bag for another week or so the bottle. For a total of around 2.5 - 4 weeks process.

Yea man ditch the drying rack, its drying to fast. Next up, the paper bag thing is fucking stupid. ( nothing against you ) I've did it two. But it's fuckin retarted, and serves no purpose except to speed up the process which ruins the end product. Sounds like you need some patients. ;)

Even though yo dont pack the racks, the buds are still all trimed and small so it's speeds up the drying time major. That's not good. That style of drying is for huge ass comertial grows, guys that don't go e a fuck about quality. Sounds like you more ito haveing some head stash rather than some pounds of BS.

As far as the small buds, you need to trim those branches off before you flower. Sounds like you've been growing long enough to know whats going to happen in flower. The plant will still produce the nug wait from those small nugs, it will jus produce it at the tops. Don't even bother growin small branches, just chop them off. That should make trimming alot easier, since all you will have is fatty ass tops. It takes some practice, and I still have t even got it down A+ yet. But I know what ya mean about those small nugs it sucks trying to trim that shit dry.

It really comes down to what's more important to you speed and a easy work, or stinky firey ass weed.

I think a better way for you might be to trim the plant wet, the hole plant. Don't trim off any branches and hang to dry for 3 weeks, then jar.

The thing about trimming dry, is that your adjitaiting the nug and terpenes am makeing it stink. But you also loose trichs. If you were to trim wet and hang dry, it may stink a little less but be a little more potant. But make sure it's super dry when canning, after you can it don't burp, if it's dry you shouldn't need to burp. Burping is just another way to speed dry, which is bad. After you can it should slowly start to stink more and more and more, ounce you crack that jar, shit should ingulf the room.


The most important thing to drying and cureing, is dry the plant hole, or in large sections. Next is dry time, it should take close to three weeks hanging to be ready to trim. Maybe 2 1/2 but be carful on that, 3 weeks is a good number that's safe.

The best way is crispy dry, like crumble. If you break up a nug and it crumbles to keef it's perfect. Now you can either keep it crumble, or add rh back into the nug with a humidity pack. That's how you cure fire.

The best way to add back Rh is with those metal cans. I can't rember what there called, by there are tons of vids on them. I talked to the guy that makes them for like 2 hours on the phone about cursing and shit. I was looking I to those becouse Im a greedy fuck and I think I'm loosing money buy slanging to dry, I want my grams. But I also know that if the rh isn't fucki most fact yo can fuck up your stash.

But check this out, by going all the way dry, your going to get rid, of all the green smell. No clorifill. :) then you bring the rh back up, to get those grams and that little bit of squish that people seem to like.

Me personally I like crumble cuz I roll joints, and IMVHO crumble rolls perfects and burns great.

Only reason I haven't bought them yet, ( the cans ) is like I need a G worth am I ain't got it like that. Although I'm probably looseing that movein it so dry. I guess it's a catch 22. Lol

 

[Oregon Panda]

Nah dude. If you got your weed to crumble thats too far. I mean I know its all opinion and conjecture but 3 weeks is way too long. IMO

7 to 10 days, into jars, burp.

Shit can seem pretty dry when you jar it, then the moisture gets pulled from the inside out. If you were to just leave it in the jar, it would mold.

I know you said it has to be crumble dry, but by that time its too far gone. Thats too much exposure to the elements.

Why dry it that much just to add moisture back into it? The quality of the moisture your adding isnt the same as the moisture you lost that was part of the bud to begin with. A great number of terpenes ARE water soluble. You get rid of the moisture and you lose all those to evaporation. Your dried buds should still be at 5 to 15% moisture.

If you weigh it wet, then weigh it "dry" it should be 20 to 25% the wet weight. At that point its ready to jar and burp.

No one likes getting a bag of crushed up crumbles, if you get it that friggin dry that is what will happen. Zero durability. People like "wet" weed, it smokes longer.

 

[dirtyglovedank]

awesome guys this is what im talking about people sharing their techniques and not arguing about it .. and thank you seamaiden i put some of the wetter nugs just a little bit back in the jar and couple hours later it starting to snap back into very heavy smell so im thinking it was too dry cause i left the jar open and it was too hot . i turned my a/c on to 70 and couple of nugs that werent so dry and its back to stinky again ..
i prefer to hang dry the whole plant and not touch anything until its were i can snap stems and twist a nug off with barely any force just like picking fruit if it comes of easy with a small grab its ready for eating or trimming then straight into jars when burped once a day for a 30 sec- a min open and people usually say its the best tasting cleanest burning and smelliest herb they have seen in a long time . and yes if it crumbles i say its too far but it all how you like it .. i think curing and harvest time are the two things that mess up nice grown weed both organic and synthetic .... it takes a long time to perfect it .. and 90% of people are in way too big of a hurry and mess it up i see it all the time ..
awesome looking with barely any smell cause they trimmed it wet like right after they chopped it down ...
DGD

 

[dirtyglovedank]

In my experience, too hot will take the smell away, and moisture/humidity brings it back.

thank you very much ;) seamaiden very much appreciated you always have good advice imo :bookworm:

 

[Bo0m]

Nah dude. If you got your weed to crumble thats too far. I mean I know its all opinion and conjecture but 3 weeks is way too long. IMO

7 to 10 days, into jars, burp.

Shit can seem pretty dry when you jar it, then the moisture gets pulled from the inside out. If you were to just leave it in the jar, it would mold.

I know you said it has to be crumble dry, but by that time its too far gone. Thats too much exposure to the elements.

Why dry it that much just to add moisture back into it? The quality of the moisture your adding isnt the same as the moisture you lost that was part of the bud to begin with. A great number of terpenes ARE water soluble. You get rid of the moisture and you lose all those to evaporation. Your dried buds should still be at 5 to 15% moisture.

If you weigh it wet, then weigh it "dry" it should be 20 to 25% the wet weight. At that point its ready to jar and burp.

No one likes getting a bag of crushed up crumbles, if you get it that friggin dry that is what will happen. Zero durability. People like "wet" weed, it smokes longer.

The can I was talking about was the C vault.

Anyways

You can always add rh back. I don't know anything about the quality of rh being differant. But I could be wrong. What I do know is if it's to wet, even a burp isnt gonna fix the problem. So why burp to begin with, if you wait till it's 5 to 15% you shouldn't need to burp, and 5 to 15% is still low. Thats like border line crumble. I heard that rh should be like 62% rh. At least that's what the c fualt brings it back to.

But I haven't used them either, when I talked to dude that's how he recommend useing them, super dry, then bring it back up.

But I have also heard anything over 62 is bad, but how would you know unless you went to crumble first. See my point. I have noticed and this is just me, but the quality seems better with no burp, and the nug being dry when jarred. Which brings me two your point about bags. I would never store any head stash in a plastic bag EVER. That shits for shwag. Mason jars arnt that expensive doesn't even matter if your talking pounds. Bag weed always looks like shit, compared to a jar. IMVHO

That's just me though, I'm not a fan of burping.

But I suppose if your shipping nugs and vacoom packing wait, your def right and you need a nice amount of rh in the nug so that it arrives at it's destination safe. You could for sure turn a pound to dust if its to dry.

 

[dirtyglovedank]

its all about trial and error what i dont get is people doing the same thing getting a shitty result and doing it over and over again and thinking the have great stuff "DANK".and i cant even smell it when i put it right under my nose and crush the bud , if i even open a jar it smell inside the house for hours , i have to quadruple bag it then put it in a vacuum sealed bag after that and i can still smell it outside a tupper ware container .

 

[Bo0m]

Also my shit turns to crumble becouse I can't trim it fast enough. That's the reason. I would prefer a little bit more of moisture, but Im not Flash Gordon when it comes to trimming. Like I said I know I'm looseing grams, and grams equals money. So me personally, I need to bring my RH back up.

 

[Bo0m]

its all about trial and error what i dont get is people doing the same thing getting a shitty result and doing it over and over again and thinking the have great stuff "DANK".and i cant even smell it when i put it right under my nose and crush the bud , if i even open a jar it smell inside the house for hours , i have to quadruple bag it then put it in a vacuum sealed bag after that and i can still smell it outside a tupper ware container .

That's is some hole other shit. That might have something to do with all the fluoride in the water. But IDK. My shit stinks could be better most likely, but is horrible, not by a long shot. ;)

 

[dirtyglovedank]

That's is some hole other shit. That might have something to do with all the fluoride in the water. But IDK. My shit stinks could be better most likely, but is horrible, not by a long shot. ;)

i got a little bit of og kush that got trimmed it stinks so bad it hurts my eyes when i cracked the jar earlier for a second , i love any herb grown with love synthetic or organic , i will grow it till the day i die ,and not from the fluoride fuck that bullshit ,,,, i like my third eye open and not calcified ...

 

[Danked]

Drying racks, like one of those circle drying things. Those things sucks, they smush the buds which will kill the stink, plus ruin the over astetic of the nug shape.

Second, buy trimming wet, I don't know why, but trimming a wet plant always smells week as shit ounce it's dry.

Third buy trimming them wet, and useing the drying rack, your pot is going to dry faster, becouse it's all trimmed up. And we know a fast dry isn't good. ;)

This how how you get the best result, people haveing even doing it for years. You trim all the large fan leaves, chop them down, and hang the upside down on a line, and wait three weeks. Then do your sugar trim after its dry.

It will yeild the best result, am your nug should reek every time.

Those are some words I wish I would've read about a week ago.... Only positive thing is that I hung 1 of my 4 harvested plants "whole" (..meaning I didn't trim it wet and use a drying rack). BUUUT... I did do that with my other 3 plants. I had the same thing going on Green Giant... it had a super loud smell the whole time I was trimming and while it was drying on the racks and hangers, then I jarred it when the stems got close to crispy, and some of it has lost most of it's good smell. And it's almost like there's moisture locked in the middle slightly...but the outside of the bud is dry-ish. The one plant I do BoOm's method, is sooooo funkin' good smelling right now. Nice and sweet, super loud, awesome smell. From now on I am trimming the fan leaves off and hanging plant for atleast 2 weeks. What do you guys suggest after that.... straight to jars? or brown bag for a few days to even moisture, then jars..?

 

[Danked]

PS... I see I am among fellow 'Michiganders'.. I'm from the southwest area, near the Zoo. Hmu in a PM if you're close.. I'll bring a sample by ; )

 

[Danked]

Hey, my bad... cancel that question.. I had clicked 'reply' before I even got to the end of the thread. AWESOME thread. I've been reading thru tons and tons of harvesting/drying/curing threads on the internet lately, and DGD is right: it's great to see fellow farmers actually sharing knowledge and techniques from experience. It used to be that everybody wanted to keep their grow secrets to themselves, which I understand in a way... But I love gaining knowledge from others on forums. It's anonymous (mostly), it's right at your fingertips, and there's alot of good info out there (you just have to learn to cut thru the bullshit and see who know what they're talking about). Anyways... good thread, good info, good people.. peace -danked

 

[green punk]

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/why-i-trim-dry-now-dont-believe-the-hype.52585/

 

[mushface]

Personally i have dry trimmed & haven't looked back since. Due to aroma, appearance, & taste which IMO improved with this method.

 

[dirtyglovedank]

Cool and dry at same time

A f'n C

me and cave man have been chatting about his way of getting the funk with a high potassium guano
So all i could find is npk industries and its raw 0-0-50 potassium .
so how should this be added caveman?
and does anyone else know any high k only guano ?

 

[Oregon Panda]

Its not some secret formula that makes your plants smell. Do people actually believe that?

Its strain and harvest time and a slow dry. MOST OF ALL its the strain.
Get a stanky strain and you will have stanky buds.

Smearing dog shit on the inside of the bag will make it smell pretty funky. That doesn't make a better bud. Grow good shit, get good shit.

 

[Danked]

Panda: true story. All the bagseeds I've grown thus far (just a few) have all smelled great while growing, trimming, etc... but then when it comes down to finished product, it lacks in "loudness". And then this last grow I just got done harvesting, all genetics from Attitude seedbank, smell great. Albeit I haven't gotten to "a finished product" yet, it's currently curing, but the preliminary smell is outstanding... so much more potent than the lesser quality strains I've personally grown.

 

[Oregon Panda]

I'm going to manufacture some plastic bags that REEK! You could put pennies in there and it will still have that old school funk, because the funks in the bag!

I have the connections, and obviously there is a need.

"Stank-Lock" technology. Make the weak reek, make the dank rank. Its good for everyone!

 

[dirtyglovedank]

Its not some secret formula that makes your plants smell. Do people actually believe that?

Its strain and harvest time and a slow dry. MOST OF ALL its the strain.
Get a stanky strain and you will have stanky buds.

Smearing dog shit on the inside of the bag will make it smell pretty funky. That doesn't make a better bud. Grow good shit, get good shit.

yes skunky has to do with the genetics but u can enhance that perticular genetics smell with the right mix of nutrients ,harvest time and cure ...also humidity and tempature of the grow and temp of the drying / curing has ALOT to do with the final outcome of any strain ...

if u run any cheap nutes "two part" next to organics with some teas added and tell me which one stinks more ...but u can still fuck it up in the harvest /drying and curing and have no smell from either of the many ways of the organics or synthetic routes you go .....

you cant make shitty genetics any better than what they are ..
but you can make good gentics turn out shitty by messing up 1,000,000 diferent ways
so start out with good genetics and half the battle of getting good smelling herb is already done.
yes i agree 100%.. on good gentics is the start of finding the stinky ,sticky, icky,dank nugs
DGD

 

[Oregon Panda]

I know an old school cat who uses miracle grow and the bud he produces is dank as fuck. Guy was in the flower industry for over 25 years before he ever touched a pot plant. MG is only in the dirt for 3 months and then its gone. 2 week flush at the end of flower after the nutes are supposed to be done with and for certain there is no residual. I would put that guys pot up against anyone else's.

If your profiles are correct, I really think nutes are a non issue. It should be assumed that your growing correctly. It should be assumed your harvesting and drying correctly.

All of those factors aside, its the strain. Get a good strain, get the good buds. No magic stink potions required. Same with tricome density, no potions needed , just genetics.