curing nug the right way?

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Gamrstwin36

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Bannacis said:
Why would you freeze dry your weed? only if you plan on keeping your bud in a freezer? selling it next year?
Just got too much weed and a lot of dry ice?
The taste is not as fresh...can't get any better than fresh! freezing it...no longer fresh hmmm?
I know, I know...it was freshly frozen! nyet! freezing changes your buds original FRESH make up of turpines and such.
not worth the cost of ice, not enough Tupperware... freezer space...
Yes it works... but not seeing the why...
imo slow cure is best, even over the sublimation...
slow cure...that is after your hang dry (then I do a paper bag pre cure) then jar up. burp...burp...smoke. its simple... and free of cost and time.
I've done the water cure also...bleah! a waste also...

Just throwing branches in the corner of the garden and let the sun and air dry em, beat them over a screen and have the best fresh hash ever. it worked for thousands of years that way, and still does.

keep it simple
keep it fresh

not to argue on which is best for who...if it works for you, by all means keeper going.
just throwing my two cents in cuz that's what this sites for.
and throwing out the many ways of drying and curing is good for all.

and the only DANK that is DANK is the DANK that's FRESH and not FROZEN....da dank dank..lol
luv getting blaze on tapping words...
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SIR, i highly recommend you READ some more . This hobby is about ADVANCEMENT, NOT STAGNATING. Why would You want PAPER BAG BUDS? I know people are AFRAID of different techniques but, done CORRECTLY,it's just as better, if not BETTER than the OLD WORLD WAY OF CURING . Different hat's for different head's my grandpa would say. And actually done CORRECTLY, buds don't freeze Lmfao liquid evaporates with sublimation. If You haven't tried it ,can't judge it! Peace!
 
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Tnelz said:
Simple? Hang ur weed for a few days chop and manicure then into a frost less freezer for at least two weeks. After two weeks or more whatever u decide I do 20 days. Out of the freezer for an hour a day for a week then into jars. Done. Pretty simple.
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hmm- i'm open to trying something new- thanks Tnelz. one Q- do you spread the buds out or just place in open tupperware? opps- i lied. i have a second Q. do they stay in freezer for two weeks straight then take them out for an hour or so?
 
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jammie said:
hmm- i'm open to trying something new- thanks Tnelz. one Q- do you spread the buds out or just place in open tupperware? opps- i lied. i have a second Q. do they stay in freezer for two weeks straight then take them out for an hour or so?
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This is what you wanna do....

Grab something like a small cardboard box place under buds leaving buds open to air. Ive never tried laying on. Bare plastic, most of today's plastics aren't breathable in certain temps.
Leave totally in freezer two weeks don't touchem, if anything grab some tongs(lunch lady style) turnem each side one week each so both sides are exposed(VERY GENTLY TRICHS WILL FALL IN THESE TEMPS).
Third week take out a hour a day then OUT FREEZER
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, off to classic jarring till You find yourself a sweet spot. I like mines nice and sticky, wife loves hers brittle and dry.
Hope this helps.

I use these and linem with non inked paper, or cardboard with no ink.
 
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jammie said:
hmm- i'm open to trying something new- thanks Tnelz. one Q- do you spread the buds out or just place in open tupperware? opps- i lied. i have a second Q. do they stay in freezer for two weeks straight then take them out for an hour or so?
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@gamrs explains it the best but I use a shallow cardboard box. Spread out in a single layer. Leaves for two weeks or more. I go twenty days. Leave them alone during this period. After this period is over take the entire box or whatever u use out. Put in a dark place for an hour then back in. Repeat for a week then into jars and do what u would normally do.i promise u u will love it! If u try it let the farm know what u think! And feel free to ask me anything u want bro!
 
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Delerium said:
I'd never put buds in the freezer, fractures the trics.
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I respect that. But u should never pick ur weed up cuz that fractures them too. So doesn't putting ur weed in a grinder. C where I'm goin. Trichs fall off. If done correctly u don't loose any more trichs than u would any other way. Hanging ur bud trichs fall off. Moving ur bud trichs fall off. This isn't a matter of opinion. Sublimation works. The method is supported by many many growers. I have dried and cured with succes for years and since switching to sublimation my weed is better. I apologize delirium not trying to come off confrontational I respect u ur grows and ur opinions. But if u haven't tried it how would u know how well it works. Next harvest put an eighth in the freezer then let me know what u think! Even if u don't like it u will at least have a better idea.
 
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Tnelz said:
I respect that. But u should never pick ur weed up cuz that fractures them too. So doesn't putting ur weed in a grinder. C where I'm goin. Trichs fall off. If done correctly u don't loose any more trichs than u would any other way. Hanging ur bud trichs fall off. Moving ur bud trichs fall off. This isn't a matter of opinion. Sublimation works. The method is supported by many many growers. I have dried and cured with succes for years and since switching to sublimation my weed is better. I apologize delirium not trying to come off confrontational I respect u ur grows and ur opinions. But if u haven't tried it how would u know how well it works. Next harvest put an eighth in the freezer then let me know what u think! Even if u don't like it u will at least have a better idea.
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I got that.
My point was to never store or place for any reason your flowers in a freezer.
The actual gland will fracture, I'm not talking about falling off which they will I mean the actual gland will break.
Y I rarely run a 25 micron back when sifting, most trics will be either broken or immature anyway.

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You EVER fracture a bone? Did it HEAL after You switched environment you injured it in ? Just a thought ..
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The actual trics might stll remain on the stem but it is fractured like a light bulb.
 
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Delerium said:
I got that.
My point was to never store or place for any reason your flowers in a freezer.
The actual gland will fracture, I'm not talking about falling off which they will I mean the actual gland will break.
Y I rarely run a 25 micron back when sifting, most trics will be either broken or immature anyway.


The actual trics might stll remain on the stem but it is fractured like a light bulb.
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Asking my chemist buddy right now brb!
 
Gamrstwin36

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Ok i got 5 mins to spare. My dumb ass signed up for double duty when i married my wife 4yrs ago today lol. So ill put this in common men terms for im not a chemist ,but smoking with one is TRIPPY to say the least .

HE ASSURED ME YES, SUBLIMATION IS A NEAT PROCESS of curing any veggies or certain fruit.

He also said Yeah im rupturing trichs BUT, im also altering the chemical process with thc/cbd. He advised me that trying sublimation THEN, doing traditional curing ie. Jars, burping. Would excel scents and make it more robust . He said a lot, but that's what i got directly. He's a chemist for Raytheon, dude's really TRIPPY older Caucasian very cool dude . Ill talk witem again next week. Sorry for the rushing eating a lot of kat today ! Lmfao
Respect. I'll be on later fellas !
 
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over the years you will get use to when to take the plants down from drying. I don't go as low as 55%. I vac seal at 60% this extends the freshness of the buds without getting any mold IMO. When I tried 50,55 the buds dried up to fast. I also hang the whole plant for 4-5 days when the outer leaves are crunchy I check daily on the inner leaves to be crunchy I take her down remove all branches from the main stock. I do all my trimming with dry plants. The end product always turns out better for me doing it this why..


I just harvested 2 OG Mango's. whe nI finished trimming the rh% was 63% I was dam near spot on. So I let the lid open over night next day 60%. the next day still 60%. just where i LIKE IT...
 
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Tnelz said:
My brother although I respect ur opinion I disagree totally. I have the exact same bud grown the exact same way half went to jars half went to sublimation and the freezer won in every single way. Hands down. Not sure if u have ever tried it. If not we are all entitled to our opinions but u would have zero factual basis for Urs. I've been doing this a long time. Up until my last harvest is was traditional drys and cures. I'll never do it that way again. Don't knock it till u try it. I am not giving an opinion I'm staying a fact! Sublimation not only works but it's less hassle to end up with Dank yes Dank nugs! Give it a try with just a handful and I assure u u will retract ur opinion. If not its understandable as I said it's unconventional but it's really not debateable.
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Well The fact that sublimation does not work was ever mentioned...I in fact said it does. just don't care for it. I have done it. I wouldn't have said what I said if otherwise.. And if you really respect my opinion you would of made sure you read my post and understood it! if you can't do a good dry and cure...air naturally then your sublimation cure is going to be better...UNDERSTAND? Your not the only one that's been doing this along time.
And I have zero factual basis of mine? what are you saying there? that the way I dry and cure is not factually possible? or my opinion of the way I dry and cure has no factual basis? Plus the fact that you are saying that sublimation curing (for weed) is best...IS your opinion....I can find many other opinions that say that its not as good as a cure method for weed...that's their opinion.....................so everybody is wrong and tneiz is the fact master. oh here's a fact...
Sublimation is the transformation from a solid to a gas without going through the liquid phase.... You use dry ice, the CO2 surrounds the bud to eliminate all oxygen, and removes all moister.. Not popping it in the frost free freezer.

The only thing I directed your way was why freeze all your bud? that's it... but u r entitled to your opinion.... same here, just didn't dis u personally...don't want to be ur brother either and give me back my comix...or ..or I'll tell granny that u been in her panty drawer..................:wtf:
 
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Bannacis said:
Well The fact that sublimation does not work was ever mentioned...I in fact said it does. just don't care for it. I have done it. I wouldn't have said what I said if otherwise.. And if you really respect my opinion you would of made sure you read my post and understood it! if you can't do a good dry and cure...air naturally then your sublimation cure is going to be better...UNDERSTAND? Your not the only one that's been doing this along time my brother...
And I have zero factual basis or mine? what are you saying there? that the way I dry and cure is not factually possible? or my opinion of the way I dry and cure has no factual basis? Plus the fact that you are saying that sublimation curing (for weed) is best...IS your opinion....I can find many other opinions that say that its not as good as a cure method for weed...that's their opinion.....................so everybody is wrong and tneiz is the fact master. oh here's a fact...
Sublimation is the transformation from a solid to a gas.... You use dry ice, the CO2 surrounds the bud to eliminate all oxygen, and removes all moister.. ALL.

The only thing I directed your way was why freeze all your bud? that's it... but u r entitled to your opinion.... same here, just didn't dis u personally...don't want to be ur brother either and give me back my comix...or ..or I'll tell granny that u been in her panty drawer..................:wtf:
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Yea u have describe me to a t. My way is the best everyone else sux! Really? Not like that at all. I don't even use dry ice. But I'm going to bow out of this. It seems like u want to argue and that's not what I'm about. Try sublimation was they only message I tried to convey. Bannacis is the best. Go get some shopping bags!
 
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Tnelz said:
Yea u have describe me to a t. My way is the best everyone else sux! Really? Not like that at all. I don't even use dry ice. But I'm going to bow out of this. It seems like u want to argue and that's not what I'm about. Try sublimation was they only message I tried to convey. Bannacis is the best. Go get some shopping bags!
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Way to debate without confrontation bro!!
 
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