Nectar for the Gods

[midwestdensies]

Dish soap is anti bacterial which isn't what your looking for.

 

[MakinGoo]

Whoa that stuff sounds kick ass... im gunna need 2 get some

 

[ODankGro]

Took a look on the thread, looks like there is some good talk going on. The only thing that I see over and over that concerns me is the Bloom Khaos questions, and I think the thread should know that the Khaos is a calcium facilitator. When using the khaos, having calcium phosphate and calcium bicarbonate available to plants is extremely important. Mixing the khaos with any salts will tie up the calcium and make it less available. The best balance to driving the khaos is increasing the Herculean Harvest at the same time as increasing the khaos. Those two go hand in hand for flower development and overall weight. When Khaos is sprayed under the foliage, it triggers the plants want for calcium for cell development and cell division. When these two products are in balance, it enhance the stage the plant is currently in. In Veg it promotes tighter inter nodal spacing, branching and over all health. In the flowering stage it promotes harder flowers, heavier weight and richer oils. In Denver we see the test results come back from our commercial growers and what they have found is that the plants sprayed with Khaos and fed lots of Herculean Harvest had higher levels of active ingredients in the fruiting bodies then the control plants that were left to the regular recipe without Khaos. So my recommendation is to use the Khaos alone with Nectar products only, and if you feel the need to supplement with a salt based additive, then do that on it’s own day without the addition of Nectar Products.
Demeter’s is our answer to the Cal/Mag Deficiencies, and without using calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. The calcium in the Demeter’s is specifically chosen to react with coir fiber and peat moss to extract natural forms of magnesium and potassium from the medium through chelation. It is very effective as long as there is minimal salt present in the root zone. If the salt level builds up around the roots stomata then the plants ability to naturally extract calcium and magnesium from the coir fiber is hindered. This can be remedied by initiating a Herculean Harvest flush pH’d in the mid 6’s. This calcium flush will tie up excess salts and turn them into organic compounds that need to be broken down by a microbial field before the plant can access it again. Hope this all make sense.

Happy Growing

Scott Ostrander
President
Oregon's Only Organics

 

[MakinGoo]

Took a look on the thread, looks like there is some good talk going on. The only thing that I see over and over that concerns me is the Bloom Khaos questions, and I think the thread should know that the Khaos is a calcium facilitator. When using the khaos, having calcium phosphate and calcium bicarbonate available to plants is extremely important. Mixing the khaos with any salts will tie up the calcium and make it less available. The best balance to driving the khaos is increasing the Herculean Harvest at the same time as increasing the khaos. Those two go hand in hand for flower development and overall weight. When Khaos is sprayed under the foliage, it triggers the plants want for calcium for cell development and cell division. When these two products are in balance, it enhance the stage the plant is currently in. In Veg it promotes tighter inter nodal spacing, branching and over all health. In the flowering stage it promotes harder flowers, heavier weight and richer oils. In Denver we see the test results come back from our commercial growers and what they have found is that the plants sprayed with Khaos and fed lots of Herculean Harvest had higher levels of active ingredients in the fruiting bodies then the control plants that were left to the regular recipe without Khaos. So my recommendation is to use the Khaos alone with Nectar products only, and if you feel the need to supplement with a salt based additive, then do that on it’s own day without the addition of Nectar Products.
Demeter’s is our answer to the Cal/Mag Deficiencies, and without using calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. The calcium in the Demeter’s is specifically chosen to react with coir fiber and peat moss to extract natural forms of magnesium and potassium from the medium through chelation. It is very effective as long as there is minimal salt present in the root zone. If the salt level builds up around the roots stomata then the plants ability to naturally extract calcium and magnesium from the coir fiber is hindered. This can be remedied by initiating a Herculean Harvest flush pH’d in the mid 6’s. This calcium flush will tie up excess salts and turn them into organic compounds that need to be broken down by a microbial field before the plant can access it again. Hope this all make sense.

Happy Growing

Scott Ostrander
President
Oregon's Only Organics

Killer info.. thanks 4 stopping by my thread..

 

[GR33NL3AF]

Took a look on the thread, looks like there is some good talk going on. The only thing that I see over and over that concerns me is the Bloom Khaos questions, and I think the thread should know that the Khaos is a calcium facilitator. When using the khaos, having calcium phosphate and calcium bicarbonate available to plants is extremely important. Mixing the khaos with any salts will tie up the calcium and make it less available. The best balance to driving the khaos is increasing the Herculean Harvest at the same time as increasing the khaos. Those two go hand in hand for flower development and overall weight. When Khaos is sprayed under the foliage, it triggers the plants want for calcium for cell development and cell division. When these two products are in balance, it enhance the stage the plant is currently in. In Veg it promotes tighter inter nodal spacing, branching and over all health. In the flowering stage it promotes harder flowers, heavier weight and richer oils. In Denver we see the test results come back from our commercial growers and what they have found is that the plants sprayed with Khaos and fed lots of Herculean Harvest had higher levels of active ingredients in the fruiting bodies then the control plants that were left to the regular recipe without Khaos. So my recommendation is to use the Khaos alone with Nectar products only, and if you feel the need to supplement with a salt based additive, then do that on it’s own day without the addition of Nectar Products.
Demeter’s is our answer to the Cal/Mag Deficiencies, and without using calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. The calcium in the Demeter’s is specifically chosen to react with coir fiber and peat moss to extract natural forms of magnesium and potassium from the medium through chelation. It is very effective as long as there is minimal salt present in the root zone. If the salt level builds up around the roots stomata then the plants ability to naturally extract calcium and magnesium from the coir fiber is hindered. This can be remedied by initiating a Herculean Harvest flush pH’d in the mid 6’s. This calcium flush will tie up excess salts and turn them into organic compounds that need to be broken down by a microbial field before the plant can access it again. Hope this all make sense.

Happy Growing

Scott Ostrander
President
Oregon's Only Organics

I agree with everything except the use of Bloom Kaos with synthetic calcium sources. I run dry salts (calcium nitrate) and spray my plants with Bloom Kaos and EZ wet. The plants STILL stack the tighter nodes and look lush as HELL! I have allot of respect for Scott and his products, and MAYBE Bloom Kaos would better benefit me when used with HH but the results I'm seeing, using it as a supplement, is incredible.

If I remember to snap some shots, I will Friday. I have a roomof Sour Diesel in full flower, the plants are roughly 40" tall and the trellis is set at 34". These clones had a rough start, in fact the first 10-14" of the plants look contorted and shitty, the other 30"s (hit with Bloom Kaos/Ez Wet) looks like they were started from seed, thick, green and very full leaf structures. This product will be a staple.

 

[ODankGro]

Are yall feed, feed flushing? Tonight is My third watering. Im just going to pH the water at 6 and no food. I'm pretty sure there it's plenty of goodies in my soil blend

 

[MakinGoo]

Are yall feed, feed flushing? Tonight is My third watering. Im just going to pH the water at 6 and no food. I'm pretty sure there it's plenty of goodies in my soil blend

I do feed feed then ACT tea.. 2morro im juss gunna add my tea 2 the nectar.. my plants r doing great & they still can use a lil more food... im feeding suoer light so I can feed a lil more & since there isnt any salt in these nutes im not gunna get salt build up..

 

[ODankGro]

I have some crazy mycorrihizae growing. I'm still unsure if you can have too much myco? I need to be light on feedings since i have happy frog and ocean forest and plant success in my mix.

I think i might do a couple waterings with just pH water. I did notice one Plant showing mag cal def but not alarmed. It's just part of the game

So should i be folair feeding with that small bottle in veg?

 

[MakinGoo]

I have some crazy mycorrihizae growing. I'm still unsure if you can have too much myco? I need to be light on feedings since i have happy frog and ocean forest and plant success in my mix.

I think i might do a couple waterings with just pH water. I did notice one Plant showing mag cal def but not alarmed. It's just part of the game

So should i be folair feeding with that small bottle in veg?

Im prolly good with my soil nutes 2 bcuz b4 I flipped these plants I transplanted in2 3 gal smart pots with Black Gold soil<<< plants were in beer cups.. im sure my soil is packed with nutes... im feeding at 600 ppms & almost at week 2 flower & my plants can use a tiny bit more food.. I can get away with juss tea but im gunna test my limit

Every time I spray my flower tent I also spray my veg tent.. so in early flower my lucky veg plants get daily bloom khaos soakings.. they love it 2

 

[ODankGro]

Some mycorrihizae growing on Hydroton

 

[urban1026835]

Took a look on the thread, looks like there is some good talk going on. The only thing that I see over and over that concerns me is the Bloom Khaos questions, and I think the thread should know that the Khaos is a calcium facilitator. When using the khaos, having calcium phosphate and calcium bicarbonate available to plants is extremely important. Mixing the khaos with any salts will tie up the calcium and make it less available. The best balance to driving the khaos is increasing the Herculean Harvest at the same time as increasing the khaos. Those two go hand in hand for flower development and overall weight. When Khaos is sprayed under the foliage, it triggers the plants want for calcium for cell development and cell division. When these two products are in balance, it enhance the stage the plant is currently in. In Veg it promotes tighter inter nodal spacing, branching and over all health. In the flowering stage it promotes harder flowers, heavier weight and richer oils. In Denver we see the test results come back from our commercial growers and what they have found is that the plants sprayed with Khaos and fed lots of Herculean Harvest had higher levels of active ingredients in the fruiting bodies then the control plants that were left to the regular recipe without Khaos. So my recommendation is to use the Khaos alone with Nectar products only, and if you feel the need to supplement with a salt based additive, then do that on it’s own day without the addition of Nectar Products.
Demeter’s is our answer to the Cal/Mag Deficiencies, and without using calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. The calcium in the Demeter’s is specifically chosen to react with coir fiber and peat moss to extract natural forms of magnesium and potassium from the medium through chelation. It is very effective as long as there is minimal salt present in the root zone. If the salt level builds up around the roots stomata then the plants ability to naturally extract calcium and magnesium from the coir fiber is hindered. This can be remedied by initiating a Herculean Harvest flush pH’d in the mid 6’s. This calcium flush will tie up excess salts and turn them into organic compounds that need to be broken down by a microbial field before the plant can access it again. Hope this all make sense.

Happy Growing

Scott Ostrander
President
Oregon's Only Organics

Great info Scott much appreciated from the source and all.

You mind if I post this up over there if you have not already?

Okay never mind the open minded gardener that started the thread has left and it seems just arguing going on so ...nevermind I will stay here in this thread where people actually try things.

Thanks again Scott

 

[OGkushistein]

Some mycorrihizae growing on Hydroton

I actually killed a clone by mixing in to much mycorr into a tiny jiffy the bacteria came alive and all that was left was fuzz ..Ate that bitch like she was fresh out the shower

 

[MakinGoo]

Some mycorrihizae growing on Hydroton

The 1st time I seen that in my garden I freaked out & was gunna kill everything & start over.. I thought it was mold & was gunna spread 2 the buds b4 bloom ended.. b4 I killed my plants I hit up >>> CAP... Cap said dont trip doggie that stuff is good. . LOL. I was gunna really kill my crop... what a dumb ass...

 

[GR33NL3AF]

I do feed feed then ACT tea.. 2morro im juss gunna add my tea 2 the nectar.. my plants r doing great & they still can use a lil more food... im feeding suoer light so I can feed a lil more & since there isnt any salt in these nutes im not gunna get salt build up..

Not sure how dialed in your tea is yet but consider adding a few nectar goodies;) My teas have become way stronger.

I wanted to discuss Aphrodites Extraction for a second. This product is straight enzymaticly digested sugar. So unlike molasses, which is watered in and then broken down and digested for plants, AE is ready right out of the bottle. So the sucrose and fructose in this bottle is readily available, making it a no brainer when looking for a sugar product.

Products I've added to my tea: Zeus Juice (great kelp source) and Aphrodites Extraction.

 

[MakinGoo]

Not sure how dialed in your tea is yet but consider adding a few nectar goodies;) My teas have become way stronger.

I wanted to discuss Aphrodites Extraction for a second. This product is straight enzymaticly digested sugar. So unlike molasses, which is watered in and then broken down and digested for plants, AE is ready right out of the bottle. So the sucrose and fructose in this bottle is readily available, making it a no brainer when looking for a sugar product.

Products I've added to my tea: Zeus Juice (great kelp source) and Aphrodites Extraction.

I also added some AE with my tea & after it finishes brewing im gunna add it 2 the full nute line.. I didnt add Zeus juice bcuz I got another kelp 2 finish up 1st.. this batch of tea was made with caps bennies foliar & root pack>> Ancient Forest Alaska Humus Soil ,worm castings, jamaican bat guano , liquid kelp, & some alfalfa meal brew 24hrs then add a lil water & feed plants.... works great 4 my plants.. usually I juss water with tea but this time its gunna b with food

 

[GR33NL3AF]

I also added some AE with my tea & after it finishes brewing im gunna add it 2 the full nute line.. I didnt add Zeus juice bcuz I got another kelp 2 finish up 1st.. this batch of tea was made with caps bennies foliar & root pack>> Ancient Forest Alaska Humus Soil ,worm castings, jamaican bat guano , liquid kelp, & some alfalfa meal brew 24hrs then add a lil water & feed plants.... works great 4 my plants.. usually I juss water with tea but this time its gunna b with food

That is a SOLID tea recipe!

 

[MakinGoo]

That is a SOLID tea recipe!

I combined recipes from all the homies.. I used helpful info from Cap,BaBa,True G,Waayne,Alien, & D >>>> 2 come up with this recipe

Thanks 2 the homies 4 sharing there recipes with me

 

[baba G]

I had talked with Scott a while back about adding zeus or demeters and or aphrodite to the tea and Scott mentioned he starts his tea with Aphrodite. I alternate between mixing in aphrodite or zeus or demeters into the tea before I pour it on. I also won't send my tea through a pump and whatnot, hand watered 500ml a plant of fairly concentrated tea. I get on my belly and wriggle through the jungle to reach certain plants but it's a labor of love not convenience...:D

 

[ODankGro]

Talking about tea's I also use Ancient Forest Alaska Humus Soil ,worm castings, liquid kelp and Humboldt honey ES and Roots Organic Trinity Catalyst and small handful of dolomite lime .. I brew for 48 hours... This is what I use at my hydro shop. I'm not sure if I'm even doing it right.

So this is what I do for 25 gallons of RO h2o

10 ounces of maxi crop Kelp

2 12oz cups of Ancient Forest Alaska Humus Soil

2 12oz cups of worm castings

15 tbsp. of trinity catalyst

10 ounces of Humboldt Honey ES

1/4 cup of dolomite Lime

pH is usually around 6.5 to 6.8

For veg I use 5 ounces of Liquid fish and 5 ounces of Kelp. but everything else is the same.

Does this sound to strong? I do not dilute it. And no strainer bags. Big air pump with four large air stones for 48 hours.

Most of my plants look really healthy but I have spider mite damage like a mutha f*cker in my shop. so I cant tell if the plants are being burned or fucked from the spider mites..

Any input would be greatly appreciated..

Also here is a update video

Please forgive me for sounding retarded I had been drinking all day and was dabbed out and it was like 4 a.m this morning so I was just exhausted

 

[MakinGoo]

Dish soap is anti bacterial which isn't what your looking for.

I didnt even see ur post dog... I dont buy thd anti bacterial kind I buy this plain old kind... only $1