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ken do you have a well? I know a number of the Nor Cal fellas on here do isn't that a bit high 300k I know it depends on how deep they have to go and how hard the ground rock is but when I worked in west Texas ranchers were getting deep wells for under 10k in some pretty hard sun backed west texas ground caliche.
 
ken do you have a well? I know a number of the Nor Cal fellas on here do isn't that a bit high 300k I know it depends on how deep they have to go and how hard the ground rock is but when I worked in west Texas ranchers were getting deep wells for under 10k in some pretty hard sun backed west texas ground caliche.
Yes I have a well. Its 500 ft deep. though granite all the way
they charged me 12 bucks a foot to drill it..bout 8 years ago
 
ken do you have a well? I know a number of the Nor Cal fellas on here do isn't that a bit high 300k I know it depends on how deep they have to go and how hard the ground rock is but when I worked in west Texas ranchers were getting deep wells for under 10k in some pretty hard sun backed west texas ground caliche.


CHOWCHILLA, Calif. (AP) — The scarcity of irrigation water in drought-stricken California has created such a demand for well drilling services that Central Valley farmer Bob Smittcamp is taking matters into his own hands.

He's buying a drilling rig for $1 million to make certain he has enough water this summer for thousands of acres of fruit and vegetable crops.

The figures prove it. In Fresno County, which leads the nation in agricultural production, officials issued 256 permits to dig new wells in the first three months of 2014, more than twice the number compared to the same time last year. That includes all types of water wells used for agriculture and homes.

In Tulare County, the number of permits issued to dig farm wells alone has tripled to 245. In Kern County, farmers took out 63 new well permits in the first quarter of the year, more than quadrupling last year's number.

The price to dig a well depends on the depth and ground composition, drillers say, costing a farmer anywhere from $50,000 to $500,000 before installing the pumps.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/california-drought-spawns-well-drilling-boom

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Water is the new gold here in cali...as they say...whiskey is for drinking and water is for fighting.

Also as the aquafiers are being depleted, it also will begin to affect roadways, railways and home foundations as well....there will be many more issues arise from the water woes as time goes by...
 
I predict a steep rise in agricultural products across the board continuing until this drought is well over. I`m not just talking about just your meds, but veggies, fruits, nuts, eggs and meat. Water is metered in most urban water systems and house hold water prices will be going nothing but upwards ( or rationed). Get ready for a new reality ! We also will lose wealth as land values plummet in this dry climate. This will cause local tax collections to come up even shorter in a time when many cities and towns battle over water distribution costs and drilling new and deeper well sites. As others have pointed out one good Winter rain fall won`t fix things. It`s going to take many consecutive good Winters to put our problems at bay.
 
Farm groups are lined up in opposition to a pair of bills in the California Legislature that would give the State Water Resources Control Board broad new powers to oversee groundwater use statewide.

Capital Press Published:August 21, 2014 5:16PM

SACRAMENTO — Farm groups want lawmakers to put the brakes on a comprehensive statewide groundwater management package about to be sent to Gov. Jerry Brown for approval. Companion bills moving through the Legislature would give the State Water Resources Control Board broad authority to oversee groundwater management and set up local agencies that would charge fees to implement the rules.

The state’s “very broad policy” would apply in healthy aquifers as well as problematic ones and would have a “fundamental impact on managing groundwater basins throughout California,” asserted Justin Oldfield, the California Cattlemen’s Association’s vice president of government relations.
 
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When those faltered, some switched on their well pumps, drawing up thousands of gallons from underground aquifers to prevent their walnut trees and alfalfa crops from drying up. Until the wells, too, began to fail.

Now, across California’s vital agricultural belt, nervousness over the state’s epic drought has given way to alarm. Streams and lakes have long since shriveled up in many parts of the state, and now the aquifers — always a backup source during the region’s periodic droughts — are being pumped away at rates that scientists say are both historic and unsustainable. One state-owned well near Sacramento registered an astonishing 100-foot drop in three months as the water table, strained by new demand from farmers, homeowners and municipalities, sank to a record low. Other wells have simply dried up, in such numbers that local drilling companies are reporting backlogs of six to eight months to dig a new one.

Indeed, scientists are warning that the state’s cyclical droughts could become longer and more frequent as the climate warms.

If that happens, the elaborate infrastructure built to deliver water to the state’s 38 million residents and 27 million cultivated acres may not survive the challenge, new research suggests. Already the drought has led to the “greatest water loss ever seen in California agriculture,” said a study last month by researchers at the University of California at Davis.

A massive shift to groundwater helped farmers survive this year, but if pumping continues at current rates, some of the state’s aquifers could soon be depleted, the study warned. One of the authors, Richard Howitt, a professor emeritus of resource economics, likened the problem to a “slow-moving train wreck.”

“A well-managed basin is used like a reserve bank account,” Howitt said. “We’re acting like the super rich who have so much money they don’t need to balance their checkbook.” The study estimated that 5.1 million acre-feet of water will be pulled from the state’s underground reserves this year, a volume roughly equivalent to the storage capacity of Lake Shasta, the state’s biggest reservoir and third-largest lake after Lake Tahoe and the Salton Sea.
 
Photo comparison of water levels taken in 2011 and 2014

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A snake-like trickle of water flows underneath Lake Oroville's Enterprise Bridge — just one striking example of how much California's chronic drought is affecting the state's lakes and reservoirs. Situated at the foot of the Sierra Nevadas in Butte County, Lake Oroville is one of the largest reservoirs in California, second only to Shasta Lake. After enduring three straight years of drought, the lake is currently only filled to 32 percent of its capacity
 
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High and Dry in Pot Country | The New York Times

 
...and if history repeats itself...and we all know it does...we just may be in a inland sea here in the Central Valley...gotta look for a pontoon boat...



Californians are Praying for Rain, but Someday They’ll Beg it to Stop



With the worst drought on record wreaking havoc across the State of California, residents may be finally coming to terms with the hardest truth of our state. Perhaps, California is not as sustainable as any of us thought. Since its inception, the climate, resources, and natural beauty of the state has drawn in millions of people. What none of them could have guessed, is that they were moving here in a relatively pleasant and prosperous time in history.

Despite a couple of devastating earthquakes, this past century has been pretty calm compared to its historical norm. Recent climate data suggests that over the past thousand years, California has gone through droughts that lasted ten or twenty years. Others lasted well over a hundred years. It appears that the millions of people who moved here, arrived in one of the tamest climates of the millennium, and it may become pretty much impossible for the state to sustain this population in the near future.

Though, it isn’t just droughts we should be worried about. Looking through the geological and climate history of the state reveals an environment very different from the one we recognize today, and one that was prone to extremes. While Californians have been well aware of the “the big one” that is expected to hit the state someday, very few residents are aware of some of the other threats to their lives. If anything, earthquakes may be the least of our concerns. After all, earthquakes aren’t nearly as devastating to developed nations as they are to third world countries. While our infrastructure is in fact crumbling, it is still miles ahead of countries that often face thousands of deaths from an earthquake, compared to the small handfuls of casualties we usually face.

While the potential for massive devastation is still there, Californians shouldn’t be losing sleep over earthquakes, or droughts, or forest fires. They should be concerned with something a little more biblical in nature.

In November of 1861, Oregon and California were experiencing a lot more rainfall than usual. This deposited a heavy layer of snow in the Sierra Mountains, but probably wouldn’t have been remembered if not for what happened next.

In December of the same year, a new rain storm moved in. This one was unusually warm, and it melted the heavy snow in the mountains, causing a series of devastating floods across Oregon and California. Before anyone could pick up the pieces, they had to wait for the rain to cease.

The rain didn’t stop.

For the next 40 days, it continued to pour down on the Western United States, California in particular. When it was all said and done, the state was facing the single greatest disaster in its history, rivaled only by the San Francisco earthquake of 1906.

The entire region had been soaked, and some areas had received as much as 8 feet of rain. Sacramento had been so badly flooded, that the state legislature had to be moved to San Francisco for 6 months while the capital dried out. The entire central valley had turned into an inland sea that was 20 miles wide and 300 miles long, and a lake had formed in the middle of Death Valley. No one is sure just how many people were killed, but it’s estimated to be in the thousands, along with at least 200,000 cattle that drowned in the deluge. A quarter of California’s taxable land had been destroyed, driving the state government into bankruptcy.

The event is now known as the Arkstorm by modern climatologists, and according them, it occurs roughly every 100-200 years, so we’re just about due for another one. If it were to occur again, it could spell the end of California as we know it today.

Financially speaking, it’s estimated that it would cause anywhere from 300-750 billion dollars in damage, and would probably bankrupt the state once again. Casualties would be unimaginably higher, now that the state has nearly a hundred times more people than it did in 1860. The Central Valley would be completely devastated, and the price of produce would rise to ridiculous levels, possibly worst than what we’ve been seeing with the current drought. However, damage to California’s levees in the delta region would probably prove to be the golden state’s coup de grâce:

Much of Central California’s water supply and agricultural areas are protected by an antiquated and poorly maintained set of levees along the Sacramento and San Joaquin Rivers that are in serious danger of failure during an extreme flood or major earthquake. The 1,600 miles of levees protect 500,000 people, 2 million acres of farmland, and structures worth $47 billion. Of particular concern is the delta at the confluence of California’s Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers, about 80 miles inland from San Francisco Bay. The Delta Region receives runoff from more than 40% of California, and is the hub of California’s water supply system, supplying water to 25 million people and 3 million acres of farmland.

What this event could do to our water supply would be absolutely devastating. Just imagine 25 million people with no access to fresh water. If those levees fail and are not repaired in time for the dry season, sea water from the San Francisco Bay would creep into the fresh water we rely on to survive. It could take months for the levees to be rebuilt, and if millions of people were to go without water for even a few weeks, it would be nothing short of apocalyptic.

Between the fiscal irresponsibility of California’s political leaders, the unsustainable shift in the climate, and the upheaval that will be caused by natural disasters, this state is on the road to ruin. If you live in California, and don’t have any long term plans on leaving, then stock it, cock it, and buckle up. It’s about to get pretty crazy out here.

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It was only a few scant years ago that we had a period of rain lasting something like 30 days. There are now MANY people living under the levees, and it blows my mind that all those homes have been built directly onto the ground. In the flat areas of Puerto Rico, that are historically known for flooding, EVERYONE builds their homes on stilts. Their cars and boats, etc, are stored in that area, and the living area stays high and dry in event of flood. Why not out here?
Farm groups are lined up in opposition to a pair of bills in the California Legislature that would give the State Water Resources Control Board broad new powers to oversee groundwater use statewide.

Capital Press Published:August 21, 2014 5:16PM

SACRAMENTO — Farm groups want lawmakers to put the brakes on a comprehensive statewide groundwater management package about to be sent to Gov. Jerry Brown for approval. Companion bills moving through the Legislature would give the State Water Resources Control Board broad authority to oversee groundwater management and set up local agencies that would charge fees to implement the rules.

The state’s “very broad policy” would apply in healthy aquifers as well as problematic ones and would have a “fundamental impact on managing groundwater basins throughout California,” asserted Justin Oldfield, the California Cattlemen’s Association’s vice president of government relations.
Yep, my state senator is part of the group that's overseeing this whole thing. And of course, he's against any regulation of the groundwater. On one hand, it makes sense and I can understand it. On the other hand, we are in DIRE straits here, what are we gonna do? It's those farmers, ranchers and water districts that have been grandfathered in that have ZERO oversight!
 
Its a little to late...its damn near game over. Not much can save us now.

My take on this is Mother Nature is not going to stop wreaking havoc until she rights herself. I believe everything nature throws at us is for a reason and if the human race doesn't open its eyes to the destruction we are wreaking on this earth...we may not have an Earth to wreak havoc on...
 
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Drought Leaves 100s Of Central CA Homes With No Tap Water

August 23, 2014 5:09 PM

PORTERVILLE (CBS/AP) — Government officials and community groups say hundreds of rural San Joaquin Valley residents no longer can get drinking water from their home faucets because California’s extreme drought has dried up their individual wells.

The situation has become so dire that the Tulare County Office of Emergency Services had 12-gallon-per person rations of bottled water delivered on Friday in the community of East Porterville, where at least 182 of the 1,400 households reported having no or not enough water.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...s-100s-of-central-ca-homes-with-no-tap-water/
 
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This is why cannabis growers NEED to be cognizant of the amount of water they use, and be judicious with its use. Yet most I know are the opposite. Frankly... I think to be so wasteful is shameful.
 
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August 23, 2014 5:09 PM

PORTERVILLE (CBS/AP) — Government officials and community groups say hundreds of rural San Joaquin Valley residents no longer can get drinking water from their home faucets because California’s extreme drought has dried up their individual wells.

The situation has become so dire that the Tulare County Office of Emergency Services had 12-gallon-per person rations of bottled water delivered on Friday in the community of East Porterville, where at least 182 of the 1,400 households reported having no or not enough water.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...s-100s-of-central-ca-homes-with-no-tap-water/

I'm quite close to this area...there are quite a few smaller towns and people that are losing wells...the little town of caruthers lost a well...city of Tulare is having to go deeper on one of their wells...Porterville is just around the corner from Tulare...

Damn folks, this is getting real...real fast.
 
Californians have long battled over rights to rivers, lakes and other surface-water supplies, but the drought is finally shifting the focus to groundwater, which accounts for about 40% of water used in normal years—and up to 60% in drought years, as other sources dry up.

"Groundwater was kind of out of sight, out of mind," said Lester Snow, executive director of the California Water Foundation, a nonprofit policy group in Sacramento, and former director of the state Department of Water Resources.

A bill pending in the Legislature would require that groundwater be managed sustainably at major aquifers throughout the state, such as by authorizing local agencies to impose pumping limits and conduct inspections.

"We can't continue to pump groundwater at the rates we are and expect it to continue in the future," said Mary Scruggs, supervising engineering geologist with the Department of Water Resources. The Legislature has until Sunday to take action before it adjourns for the year.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/california-drought-squeezes-wells-1409268495
 
Here is the issue with the regulations they want to impose....there only needs to partial compliance by 2020 and full compliance by 2040...once again the gov will move as slow as molasses uphill in November...and by then it will be to little to late...

here is an article from a local paper in my neck of the woods...check out how much the ground has sunk...

http://www.hanfordsentinel.com/news...cle_994d6465-3d7a-5511-8b6e-d30a390bc5fc.html
 
the large growers in cali outdoors should be shitting in said pants ......

at some point the villagers will turn when they find out each monster plant outdoor needs 10 plus gallons per day & some families do not have water .... or when do the local counties draft restrictions & property visits .... google maps tells them who's who ...

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