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Hoooooly shit! Mine comes out of the tap at 70. That is crazy!coming from the tap I'm around 500-700 (.5 scale). My final EC rests around 2.7
In coco, rockwool, peat... this formula works with any substrate.
Hoooooly shit! Mine comes out of the tap at 70. That is crazy!coming from the tap I'm around 500-700 (.5 scale). My final EC rests around 2.7
In coco, rockwool, peat... this formula works with any substrate.
coming from the tap I'm around 500-700 (.5 scale). My final EC rests around 2.7
In coco, rockwool, peat... this formula works with any substrate.
haha i just had a silver tip coome back from four labs claiming it was the highest test they had ever seen. all four labs. the lowest test was at a pretty reputable lab that does gas chrom. and they dont have the crazy high numbers associated with other labs. that place said it was over 27 and the highest theyve ever run. the other places went up as high as 32+ and again claimed it to be thier all time highest thc test.Pics or it didn't happen =X
-lurkin
Have you tested ur tap? I have well water and it comes out 800 or so, I got a test done and it didn't look good to much sulfates etc.
-lurkin
For the most part genetics will determine THC content although it's the growers responsibility to provide the environment that will allow the strain to perform at it's peak.
Your question about magnesium in DWC has to do with cation exchange capacity- which I encourage you to read about via a google search some time even though for now you need not worry about it because you are running true hydroponics.
Coco users (like me) have to deal with the unique cation exchange capacity (CEC) of coconut coir (-) which has a negative charge and thus attracts big ions like calcium and potassium because they are the biggest ions by physical means and have the largest (+) positive charge (opposites attract). Once the matrix threshold is satisfied (think carpet rubbed ballon dipped into styrofoam bits) the Coco coir holds these ions in a matrix so that their levels are actually elevated. Due to this CEC function the potassium and calcium levels are higher than JPH in true hydro and need extra Mg throughout the cycle. The 3-2-1 recipe addresses this issue by balancing the elevated Ca with more Mg albeit since Jacks Pro Hydro has a high level of potassium it ultimately lacks the flexibility needed to be a perfect coco recipe. And thus members like @Capulator and others have decided that it is worth re-engineering a new recipe for coco bringing K levels into suitable ranges.
True Hydropincs = No CEC matrix to fulfill and K and Ca levels stay available at the desired rates. JPH has adequate levels of Mg already and supplementation can be given minimally according to environment and plant metabolism. :bookworm:
thanks for sharing that.Yeah I had my city water tested at around 60ppm Ca and everythign else negligible.
What do you think, have you ever used seaweed extract? I was told if I wanted to triple the flavor and add twice as many trichomes at the end of harvest to add this stuff during week 2, 4, 6, and 8.
Without getting to far into a seaweed thread jack, yes seaweed extracts are great. They contain the growth hormones gibberellic acid, auxin, and cytokinin. Some people use whatever seaweed extract they can get at the hydro store (usually maxicrop) and some members are very picky- only buying seaweed extract of certain species (Ecklonia maxima) having been extracted by gentle processes (non heat or chemical) to preserve the hormones above. I encourage you to read more info on this site by kelpak
Another seaweed extract recomended by Clackamas Coot:
http://marinebioprocessing.com/?page_id=80
One thing that is great to use with seaweed extracts are humic and fulvic acids. Humic Acids are bigger particles than fulvics and are generally used in the root zone while fulvic acids are smaller particles used in foliar spraying. When combined in a 5:2 ratio -Humic:seaweed- the benefits of seaweed increase 30-50%
Some of the novelty seaweed products are hard to get. My advice would be to purchase the cheaper more accessible extract you can find and experiment. As far as applications go I tend not to use them past early flower and only apply once a week but I'm still dialing in the growth hormone/ growth regulator additions in my setup.
what is the recipe?Have a recipe a couple friends out in Colorado gave me that grow commercially. They said their nutrients cost 2cents a gallon using this recipe but they buy 50lb bags. I don't need anything like that!! LOL
I will post for you what I was given. This is a recipe for a very large amount that I was supposed to size down into actual amounts. Well I am very bad at math and ratios so maybe if it looks good to you, you could size it down. I'm just going to copy and paste it because it has two recipes. One is for veg and one is for bloom. You will also see to the left of each what order they are supposed to be mixed in. It's supposed to be followed very precisely. That's what they told me. And they grow over 100 plants at a time, no bull shit. Anyways here it is, remember this was given to me, I didn't make this up. Plus I'm not going to post all of it because it's way to long and would take up to much room I would like feedback.what is the recipe?
I will post for you what I was given. This is a recipe for a very large amount that I was supposed to size down into actual amounts. Well I am very bad at math and ratios so maybe if it looks good to you, you could size it down. I'm just going to copy and paste it because it has two recipes. One is for veg and one is for bloom. You will also see to the left of each what order they are supposed to be mixed in. It's supposed to be followed very precisely. That's what they told me. And they grow over 100 plants at a time, no bull shit. Anyways here it is, remember this was given to me, I didn't make this up. Plus I'm not going to post all of it because it's way to long and would take up to much room I would like feedback.
This formula is basically what is exactly in any liquid A. Grow + B. Bloom 2 part feed. These amounts and numbers were taken from a chemical breakdown of the ingredients that are in a famous nutrient companies 1 gallon bottle. If you take their "Advanced" ingredient recipe and "our" recipe and grew identical strains in identical situations you would have identical plants period. A large amount of research and money paid for the break down to find out this information so believe if you want. Of course each strain is a little different and might need a little more or less of something. But this is the breakdown to what you buy in those big pretty colored labeled jugs. They even look and smell the same when put side by side.
Once all the ingredients are ready you must mix them in the correct order. lf you
change the order of the mix the nutrients will bond together and the food will
become useless. Start by filling a rubber garbage can with HOT WATER. This can be
done with a garden hose attached to any household tap. You will also need a large stir stick, approximately 4ft in length x 2 inches x 3 inches. Each ingredient should be mixed very well for 1 minute or until the solution is clear in appearance. The
ingredients are listed in sequence below.
here was a long part on stuff to make things easier like scale containers etc.
To make our formula you will need to purchase Calcium Nitrate (S0lb bag @ $3S.SS; Potash (501b bag @ $39.99) Mono Potassium Phosphate (S0lb bag @ $aS.SS1 Potassium Nitrate (101b bag @ $2s.ss; Magnesium Sulphate (50tb bag @ $39.99) and Trace Elements (101b bucket @ $39.99). The total nutrients as listed will make approx. 30,000 gallons of hydroponic food. The average cost to fill a 100 gallon reservoir with our hydroponic formula is about $2.OO.
For extra flavor and trichomes:
The Grow formula listed below will make approx 80 gallons at 700 PPM
LISTED IN THE ORDER TO MIX! example 1G = 1st, 2G = 2nd ingredient etc.
1G CaNO3 224 grams Calcium Nitrate
2G K2SO4 28 grams Potassium Sulphate
3G KNO3 86 grams Potassium Nitrate
4G KH2PO4 46 grams Mono Potassium Phosphate
5G MGSO4 132 grams Magnesium Sulphate
6G Trace 24 grams Trace Elements
The Bud formula listed below will make approx 80 gallons at 900 PPM
LISTED IN THE ORDER OF MIX!
1B CaNO3 315 grams Calcium Nitrate
2B K2SO4 128 grams Potassium Sulphate
3B KH2PO4 104 grams Mono Potassium Phosphate
4B MGSO4 213 grams Magnesium Sulphate
5B Trace 34 grams Trace Elements
Begin filling the reservoir with cold water while the formula is being mixed. Once the formula is ready, pour it from the garbage can to the reservoir and flnish filling with cold water to the desired level. Once the reservoir is full turn on the water pump and let the food run through the system for a few minutes, check the PH and adjust to 6 if
needed.
lf the reservoir is slightly larger or smaller then adjust the formula to suit your needs, example: You filled your reservoir with the Bud formula as per the directions and your at 1200PPM. Multiply the weight of the nutrients by 0.75 to get the new formula at
9OOPPM.
The recommended PPM (Parts Per Million) is 900 for Bud and 700 for Grow. Some
growers may say that 1200PPM is better because the plants are getting more food.
The truth is that 48hrs after your reservoir has been filled, the level will drop by
25o/o, the PH will also drop to a level of 5, but the PPM will increase to about 1 100.
Top up the reservoir with tap water and adjust the PH back to a level of 6 every other day. We know from experience that plants produce just as much bud with 900PPM as they do with 1200PPM.
Raw nutrients absorb humidity and will eventually bond together like cement if
not covered or stored properly. Never leave bags of nutrients open after use.
For that extra flavor only soil grown herb has:
Measure out 30ml of the NON DILLUTED sea weed extract and mix in a 2liter container of hot water, this will assist in the mixture to a large reservoir. DO NOT WASTE YOUR $ ON PRETTY LABEL JUGS, BUY PUREST EXTRACTS ONLY. Once ready simply pour into the large reservoir and turn on your water pumps for a few minutes to complete the process. Suggest that the Sea Weed extract be used in your reservoirs one time at week 1 of grow, one time at week 1 of bud, one time at week 3 of bud, and one time at week 5 of bud.
For a massive but more labor intensive taste effect refer to foliar spray dilutes.
I said I would post this up so here it is:
For all of my strains I run this now, and as long as I water to runoff everything blows up.
Veg:
149:45:118:47:75:136 (N: P :K:Mg:S:Ca) <--- 128ppm NO3, 21ppm NH4
Bloom (starting week 4):
Same as above but I take out the MAP, Switch for MKP and reduce CaNO3 by 20%
114:45:148:47:75:109 <----- 7ppm NH4
This is a great raw salts formula. I am also adding organics (kelp, fishmeal, wormcastings) dry between runs.
weeks 6 and 7 I add molasses 5ml/gal.
Last week only water.
To achieve the formulas I use jacks hydro 5-12-26 @ 1.5 grams, MAP @ 0.4 grams or MKP @0.4 grams (veg or bloom), K2SO4 @ 0.3 grams , CaNO3 @ 2.85 or 2.3 grams, and epsom salt @ 1 gram.
per gallon of course.
I do use AN ph down at 1mL per gal as well. LA city tap water.
This has been in use for roughly 8 months now and I am doing very well with it. So well that I stopped tinkering.