GAVITA

[sixstring]

Those r really good prices, anybody here placed an order with these guys at growerhouse? Thats the first I heard of them.

 

[fishwhistle]

I just ordered wednesday afternoon and received my order friday,discreet fast shipping.Gavita 750e,New 8 bulb t5 w/bulbs,small titan digi timer,583$ shipped!
Everything ships from tuscon Az. so no cali tax either,thats 10% right there.Overall id give them a 10 based on price,quick ship(fedex),plain box and ease of ordering,Shipping was extremely reasonable,20 bucks for 3 boxes,Best price ive seen on a few products including gavitas.
BTW that was my first time ordering from them too.

 

[jumpincactus]

Mhhhhh I was told yesterday that the

Gavita Pro 6/750e DE FLEX US

was on back order from supplier in Holland and no telling how long. Wanted my money up front of course. I dont know that I want to shell out the dinero and then have to wait weeks or months.

Does anyone know who has this model available for shipping next week?

 

[basement bob]

Are in you in the Green square state?

Bob

 

[sixstring]

Cool to hear fw, that means the 750 are in stock at a few other places . maybe the prices will come down elsewhere. I just left the grow store, they had a phantom de1000w set up and offered it to me for 420 otd.but it looked kinda cheesy to me, it has a similar hood to epap but it has a 12 to 15 in cord running from the ballast to the hood even when mounted like a epap.guess you can run them remote also.i asked if they could get me the new nanolux de and the owner said he thinks nano is going down and that was a last attempt to stay in the game.sunlight or hf will prolly snatch them up though, if I had to guess.

 

[fishwhistle]

First ive heard of nano going down but i have heard the owner has had problems in the past,lol.I handled this fixture the other day and my impressions were good,little bit lower mfg quality but definitely had some pluses too.Id be curious how hot/ cool it ran with the ballast laying flat and very little cooling fin area,those little nubs it has wont dissipate heat for shit so it better run cool from the inside out.

 

[GR33NL3AF]

Come on guys.. So much speculation here. Grower's House is run by a couple brothers with little business sense and a poor model... 'Sell high volume with low margin' Does this sound familiar? Same bullshit we're dealing with in the cannabis scene. Monster has 750 DE's ALL DAY and we will match pricing, even though it's not in our best interest and the little fact that we DO have them in stock when no one else does, it's supply and demand (We also have a ton of 1000w E series, 600w E series, EL1 and EL2 controllers in stock, do you currently see those anywhere else?). That 'PAR Test' done by them is complete non sense. There is no way the AC/DE out competes the other fixtures by those margins AND who would EVER run their 1000w DE fixture at 24", 30" or 36" inches!

Nano is not going down, if anything they have steadily been on the up and up... My company is selling hundreds of those DE fixtures every week! Sunlight and Hydrofarm do not plan on snatching these up and Nano has no reason to make a deal with them, they're killing it selling direct.

You guy's should know that because we list a fixture for a specific price doesn't mean that's our rock bottom, it's simply how we compete with these other bottom dollar idiots. Our company purchases the highest volume of these items therefore we can offer them for much lower then most. Do we want to? No, it's not in our best interest to make 15-20% on an item but if an order exceeds traditional volume we make exceptions.

I want to leave you guys with a bit of information to stew over... One of the reasons Gavita's fixtures are pulling such high numbers is because the ballast has been tuned SPECIFICALLY for their bulb. Making it less then ideal to run any other bulb with that fixture.
@jumpincactus @fishwhistle @sixstring @basement bob

Thanks for posting that video up Fish, it took a LONG time to put together..

 

[sixstring]

easy bro,i was just telling what my local guy said,we all know he wanted to sell me that silly lookin phantom lol. but i will say when the time comes and i call you on the remaining fixtures for my new room i want your best prices without begging.i expect that from anywhere i buy not just you guys :) im just spitballin here,i already got sucked into these gavitas and im sticking with them for my build,although i might mix in some 1000's i love my 750 de's.
im patiently waiting on that genesis bulb test bro :D

 

[GR33NL3AF]

easy bro,i was just telling what my local guy said,we all know he wanted to sell me that silly lookin phantom lol. but i will say when the time comes and i call you on the remaining fixtures for my new room i want your best prices without begging.i expect that from anywhere i buy not just you guys :) im just spitballin here,i already got sucked into these gavitas and im sticking with them for my build,although i might mix in some 1000's i love my 750 de's.
im patiently waiting on that genesis bulb test bro :D

Nothing personal Six, just getting this thread up to speed...

When the time comes for you to make that purchase we will discuss pricing more in depth. I appreciate your loyalty Six and thank you for your previous purchase.

 

[sixstring]

honestly theres like 4 or 5 of these threads now and i didnt really realize we were talkin gh in your thread lol.its all goot

 

[basement bob]

@GR33NL3AF
So what's the best 1000W DE with remote option? Also, what bulb and why?

Your listed prices are better than my local "Family" price, and I'd love to do business with you. Planning on purchasing another 12 x 315W LEC and 3 or 4 1000W DE to test. But, if you did the testing already........

Bob

ps. I have not purchased from GH. Just posted links, sort of.
I think all farmers just want the best product at the best price. DE wise attracts allot of info.

 

[GR33NL3AF]

@GR33NL3AF
So what's the best 1000W DE with remote option? Also, what bulb and why?

Your listed prices are better than my local "Family" price, and I'd love to do business with you. Planning on purchasing another 12 x 315W LEC and 3 or 4 1000W DE to test. But, if you did the testing already........

Bob

ps. I have not purchased from GH. Just posted links, sort of.
I think all farmers just want the best product at the best price. DE wise attracts allot of info.

"I think all farmers just want the best product at the best price"

This is the big issue here.. DE Tech is built and designed for commercial application ie people with big operations and deep pockets. We obviously see all the varieties of grower's trying to run these and we're doing our best to adapt this commercial fixture to their setup with a price point that makes both parties happy. That is not very easy to do..lol

That being said..

There is no RIGHT DE fixture when comparing the different options. Here is what I've seen (with my own eyes). Gavita, new or old, can produce upwards of 3+ elbows a fixture same with the AC/DE, Philips bulb and Digistar Remote ballast. I have yet to see the Epap pull numbers like that but I'm not saying it can't and the Nano is too new to offer personal insight.

Now, if you want information based solely on testing then you may be disappointed. The Gavita and Nano tested damn near the same and any reflector issues that people currently have, with the NL, will be corrected in the very near future and you will have different options to choose from. Nano will make alterations based off of consumer feedback to try and please everyone, Gavita will not.

When trying to make a decision on which fixture it normally boils down to Gavita or Nano. Yes, the NL is cheaper and that seems to scare people off but keep in mind, this fixture doesn't pass through a distributors hand's it goes directly to the retail stores, cutting out that additional mark-up. The NL does have attractive features to it; ceramic bulb mounts, wireless lighting controller, 1200w dim, remote ballast and the least RF produced compared to any other fixture. If you consider those upgrades then it's a no brainer at that price point, some look past those added features and go for tried and try Gavita.

At the end of the day you really can't go wrong with any of the DE Tech, pick the one that best suites your style of growing and remember, the fixture doesn't magically make a strain produce MASSIVE numbers it's your genetics.

If you're interested in discussing a purchase of that size please PM me and we can discuss pricing..

Thanks

 

[fishwhistle]

Come on guys.. So much speculation here. Grower's House is run by a couple brothers with little business sense and a poor model... 'Sell high volume with low margin' Does this sound familiar? Same bullshit we're dealing with in the cannabis scene. Monster has 750 DE's ALL DAY and we will match pricing, even though it's not in our best interest and the little fact that we DO have them in stock when no one else does, it's supply and demand (We also have a ton of 1000w E series, 600w E series, EL1 and EL2 controllers in stock, do you currently see those anywhere else?). That 'PAR Test' done by them is complete non sense. There is no way the AC/DE out competes the other fixtures by those margins AND who would EVER run their 1000w DE fixture at 24", 30" or 36" inches!

Nano is not going down, if anything they have steadily been on the up and up... My company is selling hundreds of those DE fixtures every week! Sunlight and Hydrofarm do not plan on snatching these up and Nano has no reason to make a deal with them, they're killing it selling direct.

You guy's should know that because we list a fixture for a specific price doesn't mean that's our rock bottom, it's simply how we compete with these other bottom dollar idiots. Our company purchases the highest volume of these items therefore we can offer them for much lower then most. Do we want to? No, it's not in our best interest to make 15-20% on an item but if an order exceeds traditional volume we make exceptions.

I want to leave you guys with a bit of information to stew over... One of the reasons Gavita's fixtures are pulling such high numbers is because the ballast has been tuned SPECIFICALLY for their bulb. Making it less then ideal to run any other bulb with that fixture.
@jumpincactus @fishwhistle @sixstring @basement bob

Thanks for posting that video up Fish, it took a LONG time to put together..

Green,I dont care about who owns what and while the video tests are way cool to watch and informational i draw my own conclusions,I always enjoy your posts and appreciate your POV immensely but bottom line is money talks and im not going to slobber on anyones knob to get a better deal/price match,you post your best price and they post theirs and it is what it is.Cant say i understand why your bashing on growershouse and its owners other than they are your competition,this was my first time ordering from them and they did a stellar job IMO,im very happy with the service i received.
BTW i have spent 20k EASILY with MG this year alone,i spent 583 with growers house.

 

[GR33NL3AF]

Green,I dont care about who owns what and while the video tests are way cool to watch and informational i draw my own conclusions,I always enjoy your posts and appreciate your POV immensely but bottom line is money talks and im not going to slobber on anyones knob to get a better deal/price match,you post your best price and they post theirs and it is what it is.Cant say i understand why your bashing on growershouse and its owners other than they are your competition,this was my first time ordering from them and they did a stellar job IMO,im very happy with the service i received.
BTW i have spent 20k EASILY with MG this year alone,i spent 583 with growers house.

I'm not against your Grower's House purchase or any other purchase for that matter...

I know allot about Grower's House and I offer my opinion based on what I know which is allot more then your average consumer. 80% of the Hydro stores around will offer the same service you described from Grower's House, they have to, to survive. What I'm speaking about is longevity and offering an insight into the eventual demise of your standard Hydro Store. Based off of the business model of selling high volume at the lowest price one cannot expect to last, they're not making a profit. This makes me question their motive for running such a business at all? Is it to launder money or simply play the role of a business owner.

These are things that any smart consumer should consider when making their purchases with Hydro Stores. What's going to happen when you need to return your item or get a warranty honored and that store is no longer around?

Fish, this is definitely not a shot at you, I greatly appreciate your business and even more so, what you offer the Farm. If there is anything I can help you with in the future just ask and If I can't I will flat out admit it. At the end of the day our Customer Service is the reason we are where are and it's clear skies ahead!

 

[Texas Kid]

Nano's have hit the ground runnin out here..a spot I know of just ordered 2600 of them in one whack

 

[colostoney]

I like seeing new gear myself idk I got some ghetto ass shit I use
just all the neat change in technology lately fascinates me although im too poor to actually experience much
shit I live in a poor prt a colo and light depo greenhouses producing year round excellent choke are
becoming more n more common
few years from now I see a lot a smaller farmers blasting a cColo convert tropical style SOG
with a couple grand veg indoors feeding a dialed in light depo greenhouse 365
very similar to our Jamaican or Hawaiian bros just need a lil nicer greenhouse
for these butch cold colo winters and may spend a few cold mornings on a ladder
whiskin snow off your greenhouse in the winter
but man ive seen some slick greenhouses lately some sunk into the ground to maintain 60s groud tep minimum
sky is the limit now that shit is legal to grow
the wild west just basically opened the new frontier
anteup

 

[sensicloud]

Thanks for the info @GR33NL3AF that is awesome stuff!

 

[trippinballz]

The undercutting and expectations from many that I was gonna match prices like these guys offer...while I hadn't paid myself A CENT for over 3 years is why I closed to doors to my shop in 2007.

Someone would walk in with some printout from an internet seller that had a seriously lowball price (cents above my cost) on an item like these cats ....DEMAND I meet that price....then huff out of the store telling me "I'll never come back" when I couldn't/wouldn't do it......

Then the same clown would come in a week later with a fried ballast he bought for cheap from said internet site...whine he was 6 weeks into bloom/how badly he needed the ballast... and want me to warranty it and give him a loaner ballast from my stock.

 

[colostoney]

that's called business! I have seen it happen in my other field of income nothing to do with canna and you'll see it everywhere.
enterprise will always breed the Sam Walden and Henry Ford that will produce what the consumer wants for rock bottom
look at bud it has went from underground to dispensaries back to underground all in a couple years
all over money who can produce the most of the best quality cheapest is gonna win period
all just business though
Im happy as fuck to see these big ass hydro grow warehouses move in with all ya need cheap instead these lil hydro shops always
wanting to order what I need
wtf I order shit myself that's why I came to your store I WANT IT now

 

[GR33NL3AF]

Nano's have hit the ground runnin out here..a spot I know of just ordered 2600 of them in one whack

Caught wind of that... crazy!