The History of OG Kush

[caveman4.20]

Don't Hold your breath bro on the Adam dunn show they may not get one sample of the real fathers genes or mothers genes there's still a chance that every sample sent is a crOSS
Especially if OG was an accident

 

[bigwavedave]

they have tlc collective and some other la based players donating around 50 to 100 different cuts that are all known as ogs. if thats the pool we are working with, lets do it. they will sort some shit out if their true intent is to make discovery. i think the end result will be that there is one distinct og cut regardless of its name that has more of its dna present in the other varieties than the other varieties have their dna present in this one cut. fact is we as a community will probably never find one particular person with one particular cut that is the elusive ORIGINAL OG...we have a family of cannabis to work with called og and some cuts are better than others. some suffered from genetic drift after literally hundreds of generations of cloning a clone, some are s1 with slight variances, some are tightly held by a crew and are kept in great shape over the course of a decade or more. if you're growing or smoking a 25 percent plus version with a fuel soapy lemony WHATEVER taste...be happy cuzzo

 

[SpiderK]

they are not using many of the og strains in this thread that predated most of those being tested ..... so the results are incomplete already.

so they are search a bunch of s'1 ...... who decides what's an s1 and what's legit ? whats the starting point ? if joe puts up his " x " og strain for testing, how do we even know this cuts legit ? seeing the t.k. cut was a three way cross w/pine tar kush, or the speculation goes, you then have traits/recessive coming from that line.

and the d.n.a testing regarding ancestry has no foundation and has never really been accepted in the d.n.a community. so the testing itself is subjective ......

so the adam show will " sell " us a result. i guess more hype will spring forth soon after.... traditional radio shows sell air time for " infomercials ". like early sunday radio, the agenda has been set, then you build the story ...... so just like vapor marketing 101' on icmag in the early daze, another story is born ........

 

[caveman4.20]

Well they started mapping Marijuana somewhere else with samples of anything that comes so we can always wait until that project is done to find the father and mother of OG because Adams tiny project is just a slither of what answers everyone wants

 

[Frostynugman]

Og smells like soapy chemical pine Sol. That's it. Lemony profiles come from weak phenos/s1s or shitty drying. Or it's not og.

I agree earth funk all day!

 

[oahno]

they are not using many of the og strains in this thread that predated most of those being tested ..... so the results are incomplete already.

so they are search a bunch of s'1 ...... who decides what's an s1 and what's legit ? whats the starting point ? if joe puts up his " x " og strain for testing, how do we even know this cuts legit ? seeing the t.k. cut was a three way cross w/pine tar kush, or the speculation goes, you then have traits/recessive coming from that line.

and the d.n.a testing regarding ancestry has no foundation and has never really been accepted in the d.n.a community. so the testing itself is subjective ......

so the adam show will " sell " us a result. i guess more hype will spring forth soon after.... traditional radio shows sell air time for " infomercials ". like early sunday radio, the agenda has been set, then you build the story ...... so just like vapor marketing 101' on icmag in the early daze, another story is born ........

your constant illusion to the show "selling" you something is crazy. you do know you can ignore advertisements and skip ahead audio on youtube/podcasts/etc right? they're just trying to get paid to put on a 3-4 hour show once a week. what's wrong with that? if you don't like it don't listen to it. everything content related in a public space has to have some kind of sponsorship these days. and again, you aren't being forced to buy anything. i would much rather listen to ads for some pot related business then the bullshit tide/snickers ads that get jammed down our throats on a daily basis. but maybe thats just me.

as for the different cuts and smells. completely agree one persons lemon is anothers caramel is anothers whatever, just individual and no reason to argue it. now as for the original og kush, it's all over i don't really think its hard to find. as stated before the tahoe and ghost were the only other versions of "og" i've ever had that packed the same punch/smell/taste. i felt they were 5-10% different as well but really think it was a result of grower environment or the minor genetic drift that can happen. dave talks about the mango grower in hawaii whose herb ended up tasting like mangos. i dont think this is bullshit it might be the reason theres a little bit of difference in these cuts.

as for the rest though, like i said, i've tried probably 40-50 ogs in the last 6 or 7 years, multiple version of about 20 or so of them. and i've had the ghost twice, tahoe like 5+ times, and original 3-4 times. all of the rest of the versions, no matter the grower, how well it was done, whatever, were pale imiations of these 3. all of them... just my opinion though, one i've held for years and just randomly got verified by the dunn show 3 months ago. funny coincidence i guess...

to each their own, really. if the smoke is good rock on man. i'm just interested in exact history and facts of things, and am too much of a snob to smoke anything but the absolute best. sorry for any perceived hate, rock on guys.

 

[SpiderK]

no, i'm talking selling out ......

selling a story for monetary reasons. the reason adam started the show was for money making from day one, not the love of the community. and thats fine, .... many people start businesses for making money. but understanding this ahead of time helps so ya' do not believe something without research. and research in this very thread tells me from the start the test are worthy of bird cage liner ..... jmo.

people can purchase your air time or your viewpoint and then its sold on-air. it happens in regular radio all the time ....

many of the players on the forums worried about cuts are doing it for monetary reasons, like vapor selling oregon kid. build a story then sell ..... and i figure those working with adam on this hunt have the cuts waiting for the wave of hype that comes from these test & then the chucking starts.....

so i will sit back and see how it plays out .....

 

[mrtokez2]

I get tired of seeing people hop on orgnkids dick like that fool is the creator of og. This adam dunn fool sounds like a chump as well. Bottom line if you weren't in LA in the late 90s or early 00s u don't know shit about og and any bullshit you spout is just hearsay and probably found on the internet cuz u know..everybody and their mamas have a valid opinion now.

 

[oahno]

then you must not have a very good bullshit detector is all. when rolling jay, the scumbag, from alphakronik comes on and talks about seeds i know its promotion. or when some douche comes on and talks about how awesome selfing is, i tune out. but when a guy like dave richards comes on and lays down straight knowledge, there's really no denying it. oregonkid just got the cut from florida and started distributing it to la. now, whether he was the ONLY one to get the cut from fl or wherever at that time is definitely up in the air. if those guys got 5k and 5 pounds for 1 cut supposedly, what was to keep them from spreading it to more people as well? it's definitely possible, there's just no solid proof of it at the moment.

you can say oregonkid, and adam dunn (proven master breeder btw), are sellouts and lying, and perhaps even the florida guys as well. but the two people who are not lying, for sure, are chemdog and dave richards.

i could say if you weren't in the pnw in the 70s, you don't know shit, as well. just because someone wasn't in smog filled LA in 2000 doesn't mean they can't tell when fact-based evidence is presented (on a timeline that easily dates back to 1991), and when it's just talk. and saying it came from LA, and if you don't think so you're an idiot, is not exactly helping your case. who bred it?....where did LA get it?....when did LA get it?...

 

[SpiderK]

didn't adam work with sagarmatha with simon .................who i guess stole genetics from sensi before setting up cerebral seeds pre-sagarmatha..... ?? kali - mist aka n.l. 5 / haze cross ?

& like i said. the history is in this thread. the boel & sam, maple leaf wilson had the dank in cali ..... if you think a cut came from florida and spread across cali after green merchant, your crazy .... og has been been coming from all parts of cali from different sources (2000-2007).

oregon kid was a liar from his first post. tucked under vapors wing, the king sales man.... so why would i listen to oregon kid in 2015 ? he was a bullshit artist on og .....

the dog bud, chem ..... look into old " the seed bank ",sssc catalogs for ancestry ....

 

[mrtokez2]

^dickriding. Smog filled LA lol someone's not a hater. Orgnkid distributed og in LA? That's news to me..since like I've said several times already you can't distribute something thats already been around.

 

[mrtokez2]

You keep saying there's no solid proof and yet you take word of chumps and newbs to the scene as gospel. Stop hopping on dicks plz.

 

[mrtokez2]

you said you saw it in 2000-2001, oregon kid had it and posted pics of it years before that. i'm guessing you haven't even listened to the interview so there's really no reason to argue with someone who has half the facts.

Lol proof or this is bullshit too.

 

[mrtokez2]

I'd love to see pics that orgnkid posted years before 2000.

 

[mrtokez2]

And I'm sorry but were you in LA during the time period in question?

 

[SpiderK]

i have proof already posted in this thread oregon kid , a was not a breeder vapor created the hype .... a liar on over grow ive seen quotes from inspecta calling out oregon kids b.s.....

bubba is landrace / ibl .... not a bubble gum cross and this bum created o.g. ...not kush from nevil, baba, or wilson ??? lol

 

[bigwavedave]

i think people confuse orgnkids roll in this. he had og early on but not anywhere near amongst the first in LA to have it. what he did was give it out to people. he was responsible for spreading it. for going online and being open with the cut. he also bred with it, but didn't breed it. from my understanding, that was his roll. in the cannabis community he has had a different roll. this is a guy who has bred and given out great genetics to people. someone who has allowed the uninitiated and unconnected, produce what was once was, a set of genetics that was very rare, very exclusive, and mostly unattainable to any part of the masses. if you are a someone who loves cannabis you should love orgnkid. if you're a cannabis businessman who's relationship to the plant is strictly for financial gain you probably hate the guy as he is the main reason the unit price dropped from 8000 to 7200 to 6400 to 5600 to 5 etc starting in 2003

 

[SpiderK]

oregon kids bubba looks just like koot's blue orca .....

oregon kid was in 5th grade when koot made that kush cross .......... guys crossing thai in florida (t.k.). many people took kush plants and crossed them with thai like koot' or sativas making many " og's " .....

 

[oahno]

why do you keep bringing up bubba in the og kush thread. just because the kid is shady in some aspects, doesn't change the truth of the og kush connection. if his story was backed up by nobody of course we should call bs. but its backed up by many others as well. like dave says, he deserves credit for spreading the og kush cut far and wide. beyond that is definitely grey area.

ive been going back and reading the thread just wanna say thanks for all the old threads, seedbank pics and neville posts spiderk, some really killer stuff. if you have any more of it could you post or is it posted somewhere else?

 

[SpiderK]