oahno
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from what i've heard people in fl called anything super dank crippy but you'd have to comment on that one.
from what i've heard people in fl called anything super dank crippy but you'd have to comment on that one.
Shamus
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How about some OG !!!
;)
JK. It's the skunk. Does kinda look like it tho aey?
;)
JK. It's the skunk. Does kinda look like it tho aey?
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A-Roe
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Yeah boy until OG Kush and Granddady Purp hit the scene from then on until this day everything is Kush or Purp, and basically anything else you giving away down here. But that's only for us who just smoke green. The reason I said that is most of the people down here smoke dirty and fantasy (molly) blunts so they could care less if its loud or mid cause its getting remixed.
MrBelvedere
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@mrtokerz2 said "...here in LA where we put it on the map". Basic reading comprehension skills will tell you that he's not claiming it came from Los Angeles, he saying that the strain blew up because it started being released through clubs and other growers and gained popularity. Which makes total sense because California is the only legal state where the strain could become popular and distributed widely throughout a huge amount of people, smokers, growers, clubs etc. And everybody loved it, it is this OG buzz that "put it on the map".
In the very early days, probably the large growers, even if they had the cut would not grow it in huge amounts in any state because it doesn't yield much. It wasn't until the buzz over the strain built up so much that the laws of supply and demand made it so that now large scale growers are growing it. My point being that it's very likely in the early days anybody growing it kept it for head stash for them and their family. They wouldn't/couldn't feasibly sell it to a large enough population of people for it to gain popularity.
@oahno to be a good researcher you have excellent "reading comprehension" skills, and to put it politely I don't think you could research your way out of a wet paper bag.
ohthatguy8
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Chunky bro! Can't wait to smoke that
dogznova
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All I know is. OG has a nice skunk/funk kush flavor to it.. :eek:
HEMPxxx
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Update - I communicated with the daughter of Frank Gegax and she told me that DAVE HAS NEVER MET her father Frank, that her sister went to school with Dave Richards and that she thinks that Dave did go loot the grow site AFTER the bust, but what he may have found/stolen/looted from the DEA raided grow site is unknown. I have to go back and actually listen to his whole story - I just couldn't bother to listen to him go on, but now that I know the premise of his story is totally fabricated I want to give it a listen.
Thank you for the kind words - we are all making the world better by just resisting the oppression.
Hugs n Hash - Todd
Thank you for the kind words - we are all making the world better by just resisting the oppression.
Hugs n Hash - Todd
Bull Trout
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Before the net all herb had its origin tagged on it. Like Humbolt. Tacoma Coma, The Trinity, Mendo, Tahoe, Gainesville. etc.
OG, in the late 90's always meant it was Organically Grown whether it was apples or pickles COG at the coop. Until the net took over and weed nerds started communicating and the whole poli hybrid thing exploded weed was weed.
As far as the real story... just sit back and enjoy the fact you can enjoy. Does knowing "the" story improve the buzzz or flavor?
But the fact some sit and argue at the deets of a fairy tail is silly. Go to your grow, and tend your friends.
OG, in the late 90's always meant it was Organically Grown whether it was apples or pickles COG at the coop. Until the net took over and weed nerds started communicating and the whole poli hybrid thing exploded weed was weed.
As far as the real story... just sit back and enjoy the fact you can enjoy. Does knowing "the" story improve the buzzz or flavor?
But the fact some sit and argue at the deets of a fairy tail is silly. Go to your grow, and tend your friends.
Frostynugman
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If @HEMPxxx Has The Original Why Doesn't It Get Tested And Then there's something to go off of.
oahno
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I don't believe Dave ever said he met or hung with Frank. Just that once it got busted, they were scared the genetics would be lost so a friend of daves had him go around and snag genetics from other houses. I don't think he went to get genetics from the original raided site as they were supposedly dumb and destroyed everything.
While I have no doubt dave is the rat you say he is, i don't think what you're saying actually pokes holes in the gegax connection, if anything it verifies he got the genetics. Ask the daughter to ask frank if he thinks the dogbud is og kush and chemdog, that should put it to rest.
SpiderK
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Either Sensi directors authorised the release of the plant produced from a mating I had made prior to ending up in jail in 1990, or a person in a position of trust made private arrangements. The mating was NL5xHzC X SK1xHzC.
Sensi won a cup with this cutting. It was called "Jack Herer". The J.H. line of seeds had this plant as a mother.Green House also won with this plant at the Cups. It was called Super Silver Haze. As GH never had this cutting, who knows what they are calling SSH. In the '90s, a variety known as Diesel was making a name for itself. When I smoked it I knew instantly that this was exactly the same plant and they had a cutting. The early Diesel line of seeds would also have used this plant as a mother.
All 3 lines were made with different fathers at least and this was 20 years ago. One would assume that successive generations would all go in their own unique directions, presumably giving rise to any distinct differences today. The names have remained the same and all 3 lines gained their credibility from the exceptional qualities of the original cutting NL5HzC x SK1HzC.
Nevil
Sensi won a cup with this cutting. It was called "Jack Herer". The J.H. line of seeds had this plant as a mother.Green House also won with this plant at the Cups. It was called Super Silver Haze. As GH never had this cutting, who knows what they are calling SSH. In the '90s, a variety known as Diesel was making a name for itself. When I smoked it I knew instantly that this was exactly the same plant and they had a cutting. The early Diesel line of seeds would also have used this plant as a mother.
All 3 lines were made with different fathers at least and this was 20 years ago. One would assume that successive generations would all go in their own unique directions, presumably giving rise to any distinct differences today. The names have remained the same and all 3 lines gained their credibility from the exceptional qualities of the original cutting NL5HzC x SK1HzC.
Nevil
oahno
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i've always thought sour diesel had some haze in it. i dont think there's a spec of haze in chem or og though. looking at todds og kush pic those little duck bill trim leaves def remind me of an nl5 tho. maybe thats the thai influence?
MrBelvedere
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Oahno there was a huge amount of "Refined" strains at this time. The statement is completely ludicrous beyond words.
oahno
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I meant most of the genetics lead back to skunk, nl, haze & afghan/landrace stuff.
MrBelvedere
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Well, then you're totally incorrect again. Sorry! Anyways I admire your passion for sure brother.
Canman
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One of my bros family moved to Florida in 1985 and then came back to Cali after only one year. All I heard about from him was Kryptonite this, Kryp that for about a year lol. He used it as we used the words "the kill" to describe the best bud we could get. I went to Chico State 87-91 and smoked everyday. Aside from a memorable batch of RKS in 87 what I remember most about the weed in Chico. Was. The best was called Tahoe or "from" Tahoe. Everyone have a great day.
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Supporter
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Dave talks about franks breeding of three formula. that I remember.. he did come off as he was incharge of breeding for them.
MrBelvedere
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Excellent point! So the origins of the word "OG" in "OG KUSH" could possibly be:
Organically Grown (likely)
Original Gangster (doubtful) (term used by rappers)
OverGrown (highly doubtful)
OceanGrown (highly doubtful)
Yesterday I spent an hour searching music lyric database trying to find any reference to "OG Kush" http://www.lyrics.net/serp.php?st="og+kush" and no references to "OG KUSH" appear until 2007. Search for "Kush" has 30 pages of results, there are about four songs with the word "KUSH" in it for the 1990's. In the 2000's there are about 29 pages of results.
oahno
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i think he made it sound like those were given to him after franks crew got busted. the "schedules" or whatever. i think some of the loose details and timelines have to do with not wanting to incriminate certain people which would make sense. even though hes a rat lol.
i do think todd is a bit off base on accusing dave of claiming ownership of anything though. he basically gives all the credit to whoever gegax was working for. just says he managed to snag seeds and hold onto them since he got busted. which who knows how true that is, who knows what seeds he actually has. it doesnt seem like he did anything with them between 91 and 97 when he got busted even though he was part of a seed company, which put out mediocre unnoteworthy product as far as i can tell.
my vote is original gangster. probably like a "this is the kinda weed we got as a kid" type of thing. that terms been around for a long time outside of the weed game. i dont think people even cared about organically grown in the early-mid 90s if the herb was fire but maybe in deadhead circles or pnw/cali. just a guess though.
MrBelvedere
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I totally agree the word OG is been around in our culture and and music lyrics since before the early 90s, no doubt about that- but when used in lyrics it was always referring to "og" as an old head / original gangster, somebody who's older than them. The terminology was never associated with weed during this time. At any rate I agree with you, I just think original gangster is more likely than overgrown. Let's keep digging.
@HEMPxxx what was the name of the cutting you were given to release, what was the exact name?
@HEMPxxx what was the name of the cutting you were given to release, what was the exact name?
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