Massive Roots! Root Booster Winner test!

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symbiote420

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I really liked the Rx and this time I'm about to do half my cuts with the RE and the other half with Rock's Supercharge this week....... I clone in 16oz cups, the Rx had roots visible in 5 days!! I usually see roots in 7 days using nothing more than silica, fulvic acid, mycos, and Rootech and that got my OGs like the Ghost and SFV to root in 8 - 10 days! I know one thing, I got enough rooting solutions around here now to clone an entire tropical rainforest lol
 
TSTEW313

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I really liked the Rx and this time I'm about to do half my cuts with the RE and the other half with Rock's Supercharge this week....... I clone in 16oz cups, the Rx had roots visible in 5 days!! I usually see roots in 7 days using nothing more than silica, fulvic acid, mycos, and Rootech and that got my OGs like the Ghost and SFV to root in 8 - 10 days! I know one thing, I got enough rooting solutions around here now to clone an entire tropical rainforest lol
Lol I hear you on that!
 
ZurichTheHunter

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Im running 25-35 year old Clone only OGs. Triangle Kush,SFV and a bunch of others. The Arcata Trainwreck is the oldest cut I have. I dont like much of the new stuff, seems new stuff lacks in the potency department.

Eagle 20 makes my plants happy. It just stalls the cloning process.

Respect my man! I have never seen a 25 or 35 year old mama! I would love to see pix!

Now researching your strains! Not familiar with the Arcata or the triangle.

Sounds like you've been at this for a while!
 
TSTEW313

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I really liked the Rx and this time I'm about to do half my cuts with the RE and the other half with Rock's Supercharge this week....... I clone in 16oz cups, the Rx had roots visible in 5 days!! I usually see roots in 7 days using nothing more than silica, fulvic acid, mycos, and Rootech and that got my OGs like the Ghost and SFV to root in 8 - 10 days! I know one thing, I got enough rooting solutions around here now to clone an entire tropical rainforest lol
@symbiote420 is that ready to be potted in 8 to 10 day's On your gee's an these gee's your speaking of are they the clone only sfv and ghost?
 
TSTEW313

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Respect my man! I have never seen a 25 or 35 year old mama! I would love to see pix!

Now researching your strains! Not familiar with the Arcata or the triangle.

Sounds like you've been at this for a while!

Ive only been at this 5 years. I can post some pics of the SFV in early flower. The other cuts in flower are recent seed finds. I have veg shots of the other cuts. I'll take a pic of the SFV tomorrow, its dark.

Yes, Tstew also runs every cut, I have.
 
TSTEW313

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Yes they're the clone only! I never use domes on my OGs, without em it forces them roots to pop much faster!
Thats whats up! No domes here neither! when I receive a fresh shipment I will only use my dome for a day or two until the cuts get acclimated to my climate! Still I'm able to pot these ladies is 7 day's but never any sooner than that! So you must have a nice system if your potting in less time then that keep us posted on your results an a couple pictures!
 
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I want to start by thanking you to you my fellow farmers for sharing your cloning processes, techniques, equipment, ideas, and wisdom. More specifically, what you have found to work and what you have found not to work.

My motivation for checking out this thread to begin with was the desire to improve my cloning skills/results. This posting (my posting) started as being inspired by Oscar’s test of RX Life Cloning Solutions, the only cloning solution that is mentioned in this thread that I hadn’t tried…. and the fact that his results were better than mine.

Lastly, I am sharing this info with the intent to pay it forward. For those, who like me came to “the farm” seeking to learn from others.
Living in Gratitude of my fellow farmers and their contribution to my evolution as a grower!

Items Used in this Test:

Girl Scout Cookies - Thin Mint "mother" to take clones from
Fiskar 1 7/8" Micro Tip Pruning Snip
Scalpel
Cutting Board (Sterile)
Isopropyl Alcohol
Cup for holding alcohol used in sterilizing the cutting board and instruments
Clean Paper Towel
Nutrients: RX Life Cloning Gel, RX Life Cloning Solution, Cultured Solutions “Veg A & B”, Cultured Solutions “Roots”, pH Up, pH Down, Reverse Osmosis (RO) Water pH 5.5
Aeroponic Cloner: EZCloner 30 Place
Light: 2 Foot, Four Bulb (Blue Spectrum), Fluorescent Grow Light

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Getting Started:

Before anything, clean and disinfect all tools and cutting board with Alcohol.

I generally start with 16” well developed cuttings – with at a minimum, 5 nodes if not more on the top 2/3’s of the cutting. The closer the nodes are together, the better.

I take cuttings from the bottom of the plant as they have more rooting hormones than branches toward the top and have proven to grow roots faster than cuttings taken from the top of the plant. However, clones taken from any part of the plant will work.

I like large cuttings that have lots of new growth.

Transforming a Cutting to a Clone:


I only want vegetation growing on the top 1/3 of the clone when finished. All other energy the clone expends should be directed at root growth. I leave the top 1/3 with as much new growth as possible so that the clone will grow quickly once it develops roots.

Using the Micro Tip Pruning Snips, I defoliate the cutting. This includes trimming any leaf longer than 1” down to 1”. By clipping the tips of the leaves, the clone doesn’t over-exert herself trying to turn light into food, when she should be focused on roots. Remove all vegetation on the main stem below the top 1/3” of the cutting. (NOTE: I am constantly cleaning the Snips & Scalpel with alcohol. Storing them in alcohol when not in use. Taking the clean paper towel and drying the cutting tools prior to touching any plant material)

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Then I use the scalpel, find the largest node on the bottom of the cutting stem and cut the stem at 45 degree angels directly under that node (this will help the cutting heal faster). I find that nodes root faster than stem with no node.

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Next I split the bottom 1” of the stem with 4 cuts, exposing more “raw” rooting surface

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(NOTE: I use a scalpel or razor blade to cut the bottom of the stem. I don’t use pruning snips to cut the stem where I want rooting to take place because the snips as snips tend to crush the stem, blocking the ability of the stem veins to absorb water at the cut)

Place the marijuana clone immediately in the container containing RO water pH 5.5.

Preparing the EZCloner


Using the RX Life Cloning Solution (which is very acidic), nutrients (15 ml/gal) are added to RO Water

The Cloner is turned on and tested to make sure it is operating properly, mixing the nutrients at the same time. Once nutrients are thoroughly mixed, pH is tested and adjusted to 5.5

Clones are brought to the cloner and one by one the stems are removed from the RO Water they have been waiting in, dried, dipped in the RX Life Cloning Gel, collar placed around the clone and inserted into the cloner. I try and leave at least the bottom 3” of the clone into the ezcloner for rooting.

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(NOTE: I don’t use a shot glass to hold cloning gel as I find it is too wasteful. That practice is based in the idea of spreading bacteria into the original rooting hormone container. Instead I use extreme hygiene in the clone prep process and dip directly into the original gel container.)

Daily EZCloner Maintenance During Rooting


Air Temperatures are maintained at 76 to 80 degrees. Humidity is between 60 & 80%. Nutrient temperatures are maintained at 70 degrees F. I believe clones need water through their leaves right now, because their roots haven't formed. Even though humidity helps, I mist the cuttings a few times a day until they start forming roots.

Some growers don't use any grow lights at all for the first 1-2 days while clones get settled. Other growers do give light right from the beginning. I take my cuttings from mother plants in veg who are already on a 18/6 (Light/Dark) schedule. I maintain the same exact schedule for the cuttings thru the cloning process and ultimately back into veg. I have found this to produce my personal best results.

For the first week, every day I check to ensure that my equipment is functioning properly, clean the nutrient filter and make pH adjustments as needed.

Within 5 days, I have roots starting to consistently be formed on all stems in the cloning machine and generally there are at least one or two roots per stem that are 4 to 5 inches long.

On day 6 or 7, I flush the nutrient tank. This starts with removing the container holding the nutrients, dumping, cleaning and sterilizing it. After returning the container, I refill with fresh RO water and turn the circulation pump back on. Once the ezcloner is circulating the clean RO Water, I add Cultured

Solutions “Roots” at (5 ml/gal) and allow to circulate and mix in the cloner.

After the CS Roots has mixed, I add CS Veg A&B with a target ppm of 130 ppm on the 7 scale. Once nutrients are thoroughly mixed, pH is tested and adjusted to 5.8

Now I am back into daily maintenance mode. Checking the ppm’s, keeping them between 130 & 140 and pH at 5.8

(NOTE: The reason I adjust the pH to 5.8 is that the hormone in the rooting gel and cloning solution has already removed the epidural layer of the stem. Now I am wanting to nurture growth and feed the clone with its new roots. The CS Roots stimulates all root growth from here.)

Results!


Here are my best results after two tests with the RX Life Cloning Solution and Gel.

In the first test with RX Life solutions, I only used the RX Life Cloning Solution. The stems were not treated with a gel or powder. In this test, it took 12 days to produce stippling and first roots in the 4 to 5 inch range.

In the second test with RX Life Solutions, the only change made in the experiment was that I used the RX Life Cloning Solution and RX Life Cloning Gel.

Utilizing the gel cut my rooting time from 12 days to 5 days. At this point, some gardeners would transplant the clones.

The reason I flush, clean and add Cultured Solutions “Roots” and “Veg A&B” is for good reason. By day 12 from first taking cuttings, I have 16” stems with 16” fully formed roots that are consuming 30 ppm’s of nutrient solution per day. Think about this…… 30 stems consuming 30 ppm’s of nutrient solution per day, 12 days after cutting. This is new for me and pretty exciting.

In both tests, I placed 5 stems which were not split (prepared to the point prior to being split) in with 25 stems that were split. Also….. I have found that the stems that are split consistently produce 10 times more root growth in the same amount of time as the stems that aren’t split.

Happy cloning everyone! Please don’t hesitate to comment or ask questions.

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@ ZurichTheHunter you probably have one of the nicest setups I have seen for cloning an a very detailed cloning method! Thanks for sharing your method of cloning with us I will be doing my test run with these two products soon! Then I will be done testing for a while I'll just set back an enjoy the show!
 
symbiote420

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I'll try to get some pics up, I'm heavy handed them a mofo I've tried to take pics of my roots several times before lol and it never ends good!
 
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Very Nice Roots YOUR Getting There! Which cut is that foodoo?

Cornbread tk leaner. Got 4 tk leaners out of 14 beans, tossed the shorty bubbas. Will be pheno hunting once the gsc fcut is chopped
 
TSTEW313

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I'll try to get some pics up, I'm heavy handed them a mofo I've tried to take pics of my roots several times before lol and it never ends good!
No worries I'm just trying to look for ways to save time an money if I can shave a couple of days off my cloning time with these old cut's then it's less money I got to send to DTE! Lol
 
TSTEW313

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Cornbread tk leaner. Got 4 tk leaners out of 14 beans, tossed the shorty bubbas. Will be pheno hunting once the gsc fcut is chopped
That's what's up Foo well I hope you find what your looking for I have heard good things about csi gear! On the new seed finds with just tap water an some root tech I was getting roots like your posting in around the same time frame as well! But alot of these old cut's need a boost to get them too root faster is why I have been trying new products an I'm getting close to have tried them all thank god!
 
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If I could get my hands on one of these old cuts, I'd love to do a day by day on rooting it .
 
ZurichTheHunter

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Hey FooDoo!

Thanks for stopping in and for commenting. Your rooted cutting above looks great and sounds like you are very happy with the results you are getting. That is Awesome! :-)

I wanted to take this opportunity to share something that has been on my mind.

Much of what I originally learned when I was getting started was from guys like BudGoggles, FarmerEd and other early CCUC pioneers on the farm. Many of which are no longer here. I am very grateful for the contribution those guys have made to my gardens without knowing it. They helped me avoid so many common mistakes by sharing those mistakes transparently and the solutions they discovered to prevent those problems from happening again.

The growing community has evolved at a breakneck pace in the last 5 years when compared to the previous 40 years and that pace of evolution is only going to increase. My goal for getting involved in this forum or any other forum is to learn. To learn from you as well as my fellow growers, not be talked down to, judged or any other behavior that doesn't result in lifting the community up.

I would like to engage, attract and participate in a community of intelligent, well informed and educated people who are not only growers like you or I, they are innovators, scientists, botanists, horticulturists, builders, and educators that are willing to come here and participate in such a way that it helps all of us evolve to the next level. Those people are not going to come here and engage if they don't feel that there is something in it for them. That means elevating the quality of the conversation.

A rising tide lifts all ships! This metaphor I have found to be especially true here on the farm. We can show up here on this site anyway we so choose and we will be engaged and respected in accordance with how we show up. For some people that matters, for some it doesn't.

For people like me, I am here to learn and evolve to be the best grower that I can be as quickly as possible. We all have a reason.

Cannabis is going to get legalized nationally and along with legalization will come many changes. Many good, not all will be good or liked by this community. Especially when it comes to regulation.

With legalization comes more people like me and maybe you who are attracted to growing and seek to participate in forums like this to not only stay relevant today, but be cutting edge moving into the future. Many old school underground growers don't want legalization or change. They don't like the competition. They don't see evolution as a good things, they have other drivers which motivate them.

Why do I want to be cutting edge? Why do I want to experiment, share and learn from others? Why do I want to share quality information and encourage others to contribute quality information? Why do we want to learn best practices, understand new products and share our findings here on the farm?

Because I don't want to rely on a guy making $12/hr in the local grow shop to guide me in my education, practices, purchases, and results. I don't want to rely on a equipment and nutrient industry that is heavily incentivized to sell me a $350 product when a $43 dollar product will produce the same results or better. Because quality attracts quality. I want to learn from you based on your experience about a product or technique that you have personally tried and discovered that it didn't work as promised. Because I want to trust what you share to be fact, true, to not have an agenda, be contributed from a place of ego.

Most of all I want to learn from you as to how I can avoid very costly mistakes and maximize my results.

Looking at the bigger picture.... Washington, Colorado, Oregon, and Alaska are states coming on line with legalization. That means risk is going down and the quality of people who will be growing will be increasing. I personally would like to support an environment on the farm that becomes a place where we don't belittle each other or talk down to each other but rather, lift each other up to be our best selves.
 

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