papapayne
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It's prob to late in the season to send off soil for tests huh?
papapayne
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Like to be able to get results and amend it and break down before pots need to be ready to go
MendoGiantZ
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Not at all it only took a week to send it and receive a test result in my email
papapayne
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Ok cool tha ks! I better get on it then
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papapayne
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looking great man! Got me jealous of your weather, 22 MPH winds, and downpour here still :( Hoping to start moving mine out in a few weeks, weather allowing.
MendoGiantZ
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Got some serious storms coming in.. I hope the ghetto hoop houses hold up :)
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Steelhead fishing on the south fork of the eel river.
The Terps
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Very nice river pic you should join us over at the gone fishing thread!
leadsled
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Hello,
Back in town.
Soil test looks pretty good. Not as out of whack as many tests I see!! Most elements are in excess.
That is 883lbs per acres phosphorus after converting from p205. Because of this it is recommended to do do a weekly foliar spray or zinc and manganese.
Excess, p, k, Iron, Zn, adding some boron to get the levels above 1ppm will kick things off.
If you have plenty of nitrogen, you need is 20lbs per acres boron. (borax, use half that amount with solubor boron.
You can water it into your containers or beds. What size containers you use? If you need how much to add per container, ask I can give you the amount.
The organic matter is not all that low. The carbon to organic matter is important.
Ideally I would have gotten the base + test. Than we know the silicon, molybdenum, cobalt and EC levels.
Silicon and boron kicks off the biochemical sequence, and the trace minerals are utilized by both plants and the biology in the soil.
Hope that helps, any questions please ask.
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I use 200 gallon containers. Just went up north to mendo because I was having a hard time getting big teenage plants to fill up the dep. I SCORED. My older "guru " friend who taught me a bunch when I was younger gave me a bunch of his super heady strains he's been working on for a while. I got the miyagi OG. Maui Og. Royal miyagi Og. Rasberry Og. ( his personal favorite. ). And a couple new strains he's working on. He said I can't clone any of them or give them out but he labeled them all and is gonna come down when there flowering and he has back ups of all the kinds he will make into moms. He's super excited to see some outside. He showed me all his different rooms and his raspberry OG is fucking insane. He's been running his Maui Og for a while. He just got 49 # off of 16 gavitas
leadsled
GrowRU
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Congrats on the strains!
To bring up the boron levels for each 200 gallon container. Use 11 grams of 20 mule team borax for each container.
To help disperse evenly, Can mix well with h20 and water into each container.
MendoGiantZ
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We finally got enough plants to make me feel comfortable that we are going to be able to fill up all the space. Moving 30 gallon geo pots when they are wet is a pain in the ass.
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@leadsled i was about to cover my massive dirt piles with a ton of perlite. Mocha bat guano. Chicken manure earthworm castings. Trace minerals and a bunch of bone meal. Kelp meal as well as some nitrogen bat guano. Then rototill it all up with the cover crops and cover the entire thing with a large black piece of plastic. My question is can I add the 20 mule team with everything else and blend it up or wait till all the dirt is in containers?? Also where can I get that stuff I have never seen it
leadsled
GrowRU
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Yes, you can blend the borax with everything and then mix it in.
Target, Walmart, Rite Aid CVS etc carries it. 20 mule team borax.
Your soil will probably do really well without additional inputs. You soil has an excess of nutrients currently.
After converting p205 to Phosphorus. There is 883 lbs per acre. Not advised to put more phosphorus. Excess P limits zinc. All those other inputs you plan to add, will then add more phosphorus.
Same goes for adding more trace minerals. More is not better.
Shooting for trace mineral in proper proportions on the soil test.
Boron 3ppm (you are deficient .69 ppm)
Iron 60-80 ppm (you have an excess 275ppm)
Manganese 60-90ppm (you are good)
Copper 4ppm (you are good 4.61 ppm)
Zinc 8ppm (you have an excess 30.75 ppm)
Usually shoot for 1-200lbs per acre of nitrogen. So little bit of nitrogen guano or another N input does not hurt if not in excess. Also depends on how the plants finished. Did they have enough N to finish?
Seamaiden
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I strongly suggest not using perlite and going with rice hulls if your goal is to lighten up the mix and help with drainage. The perlite floats and it's several times more expensive than the hulls IME. The hulls take 2-3yrs to break down in my area. When they do, you'll get potassium silicate in the deal.
MendoGiantZ
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I'm ordering a ton of new dirt this year. I'm gonna use the mule 20 but still gonna use all the organic goodies I always do.
Seamaiden
Living dead girl
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Is it possible to convince you to drop the perlite? You won't be sorry, I swear! I use what's sold as animal bedding, it's $6-$8/4'cu bale, and that's a compressed bale. I've also used the rice hulls to make biochar using an open air method. It's a bit of work, but it does work.
MendoGiantZ
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Yeah I will do rice hulls instead of perlite. Sequoia landscape has bulk perlite that they add in to the 420 mix for me. They usually add extra for free since the size of my orders are so big and perlite is so cheap. Also they added a bunch extra of the red lava rock for me as well
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