Bag Seed Hunting & The Lst Adventure

[rmoltis]

Air conditioners actually dehumidify the air.

By my home condition measurements my house went from under %20rh (%1rh in tent) before using my a/c . To over %50 after I started using it. On top of that I needed to pull out the dehumidifier to control it further.

So it sounds good that they dehumidify.
But my home condition measurements show the opposite.


When you take warmer air and cool it down the relative humidity rises.
The airs ability to retain moisture decreases while the moisture content in the air remains the same.

since it is called "relative" humidity. The percentage actually rises.

Leaving less available moisture holding capability in said air conditions.

 

[EventHorizan]

Your ideas are very good and I appreciate them. It's just this is a 100 year old home that was gutted and shittily interior remodeled. Has all sorts of leaks between other apts and the outside.

I lift up my ceiling tile and the ceiling is falling apart with the floorboards of the upper floors showing. So i HAVE to keep the stank filtered %100 or else I risk major failure.

Can we increase production? So that we can get you in a better apt? Or even the downpayment on a house, so your monthly rent will be monthly mortgage..
5 large is a downpayment..... just food for thought... dont reply... no reply needed... we both understand the gravity of what i said... decisions...
One thing is for sure rmol, there is a lot more to growing than just planting some seeds eh brother???
We are problem solvers at the core of it...

 

[rmoltis]

Ya rmol has some crazy conditions! Twilight zone 1%rh... I guess ac cant really dehuey 1% rh lmao!!!

I gotta say this year season (This grow specifically) using the a.c. is the first year my tent has had higher than %1 lol

The t5 lighting seems to keep the rh% in the tent more stable than the hps ever did.

 

[EventHorizan]

By my home condition measurements my house went from under %20rh (%1rh in tent) before using my a/c . To over %50 after I started using it. On top of that I needed to pull out the dehumidifier to control it further.

So it sounds good that they dehumidify.
But my home condition measurements show the opposite.


When you take warmer air and cool it down the relative humidity rises.
The airs ability to retain moisture decreases while the moisture content in the air remains the same.

since it is called "relative" humidity. The percentage actually rises.

Leaving less available moisture holding capability in said air conditions.

but understanding how a condensor and the compressor works, explains the science..
When the unit is turned on, the compressor moves refrigerant fluid through it. The refrigerant pulls humidity and moisture from the air while hot air passes over the cooling coil. ... Heat and humidity collected by the air conditioner is deposited outside of your home

 

[G gnome]

By my home condition measurements my house went from under %20rh (%1rh in tent) before using my a/c . To over %50 after I started using it. On top of that I needed to pull out the dehumidifier to control it further.

So it sounds good that they dehumidify.
But my home condition measurements show the opposite.


When you take warmer air and cool it down the relative humidity rises.
The airs ability to retain moisture decreases while the moisture content in the air remains the same.

since it is called "relative" humidity. The percentage actually rises.

Leaving less available moisture holding capability in said air conditions.

Look dude, air conditioners remove moisture from air its common sense...idk what to tell u about why ur rh went up dont give a shit neither

 

[rmoltis]

but understanding how a condensor and the compressor works, explains the science..
When the unit is turned on, the compressor moves refrigerant fluid through it. The refrigerant pulls humidity and moisture from the air while hot air passes over the cooling coil. ... Heat and humidity collected by the air conditioner is deposited outside of your home

It sounds good and all.
But my dehu runs non stop to keep the house below %50 now.

Tell me How do I go from under %20 rh% in home (%1rh in tent)

To over %50 in home after a.c. useage and non stop dehumidification?

My house is crazy lol.

 

[rmoltis]

Look dude, air conditioners remove moisture from air its common sense...idk what to tell u about why ur rh went up dont give a shit neither

I already understand how air conditioners work lmao.

But the measured variables are the true indicators of the changes.

 

[rmoltis]

Look dude, air conditioners remove moisture from air its common sense...idk what to tell u about why ur rh went up dont give a shit neither

Your missing the whole concept of relative humidity....

Warmer air has the capacity to hold more moisture by volume.

When the air is cooled it's moisture holding capacity by volume is reduced.

The a.c. can dehumidify and cool the air and still have the relative humidity rise. Even if the total moisture content by volume in the air is reduced...

 

[rmoltis]

The other point for you guys to consider is that air conditioning units only dehumidify while they are cooling the air (during the duty cycle).

Most a.c. units cool the air then shut off for a bit then turn on , off etc.

So unless your a.c. unit is running at %100 duty cycle, it is not an effective dehumidifier. It will only remove a small portion of the moisture content.

 

[GT21]

Your missing the whole concept of relative humidity....

Warmer air has the capacity to hold more moisture by volume.

When the air is cooled it's moisture holding capacity by volume is reduced.

The a.c. can dehumidify and cool the air and still have the relative humidity rise. Even if the total moisture content by volume in the air is reduced...

This sounds like 7th grade science class hahaha

 

[Thejoeybrown]

:cry::cry::cry:

Made my morning:cry::smoking::fire:

 

[Thejoeybrown]

that would be perfect.. my ac actually lowers my rh.. never heard of it raising it...

Air conditioners actually dehumidify the air.

My ac actually raised my rh quite a bit also. I live in the Bay Area so it's not desert like R. Before ac I ran a humidifier to keep it around 60 in veg. When I got the ac I had to also install a deHuey. Ac takes the rh up in the 70s if left by itself. I have it hooked up to exhaust and pull air from outside so maybe that has to do with it

 

[EventHorizan]

This sounds like 7th grade science class hahaha

ya weedology lol

 

[EventHorizan]

The other point for you guys to consider is that air conditioning units only dehumidify while they are cooling the air (during the duty cycle).

Most a.c. units cool the air then shut off for a bit then turn on , off etc.

So unless your a.c. unit is running at %100 duty cycle, it is not an effective dehumidifier. It will only remove a small portion of the moisture content.

I think your over thinking this slightly...

 

[rmoltis]

I think your over thinking this slightly...

Through knowledge comes understanding.

My most ideal career would have been engineering.

And most of engineering comes down to analysis of theory vs applied science. (What works in theory vs. What actually happens after theory is applied)

 

[EventHorizan]

Through knowledge comes understanding.

My most ideal career would have been engineering.

And most of engineering comes down to analysis of theory vs applied science. (What works in theory vs. What actually happens after theory is applied)

I am an engineer. And we over think shit all the time... I got a factory full of machine operators that will vouch for that :) lol

There is understanding, and there is over thinking outside your mental pay scale...
See when I got a problem like yours, I load a bowl, and watch the cubs game...
And remember to myself, damn that first piece of ass i got as a kid made my toes tingle, AND IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN!
What a trick to pull on a man!

 

[rmoltis]

I am an engineer. And we over think shit all the time... I got a factory full of machine operators that will vouch for that :) lol

There is understanding, and there is over thinking outside your mental pay scale...
See when I got a problem like yours, I load a bowl, and watch the cubs game...
And remember to myself, damn that first piece of ass i got as a kid made my toes tingle, AND IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED AGAIN!
What a trick to pull on a man!

Lol. I see where you are coming from.


On a side note there is no problem.

This is the first time since I started growing where my conditions are optimal for flowering (°75F & %50rh).

Unless you are referring to my after harvest drying situation :speechless:

 

[rmoltis]

I wish I could smoke. It's been weeks

 

[EventHorizan]

Lol. I see where you are coming from.


On a side note there is no problem.

This is the first time since I started growing where my conditions are optimal for flowering (°75F & %50rh).

Unless you are referring to my after harvest drying situation :speechless:

I actually was referring to the drying situation. I didnt know you were having any other problems... As for optimal conditions, I stayed between 58 and 63% rh this whole flower. I will always follow that from now on. Prob more like 60 to 65%rh at 75*... Im down for the vpd....

 

[jumpincactus]

Why do u think that? I dont agree. I would hang for 21 days with 63% rh with a fan moving air in the room. When you get back, trim and put in jars for 2 weeks. perfect!

I concur with you on this. :) I have and I live in very arid conditions have slow dried whole plants at 65% Rh for almost 21 days and then jarred them for cure. As long as R keeps the Rh factor above 60% and has small air movement all will be well. Just needs to be sure no air blowing directly on buds.