The Fat Leaf Breeding Project

[Sun Valley]

Here's a little fat leaf or 2 I have. Not quite sure how she's lined .. part of a mix up bag of seeds from a greenhouse run. Definitely cheese inside I know for sure and either burmese x Sensi Star or Kushberry

 

[lino]

Here's a little fat leaf or 2 I have. Not quite sure how she's lined .. part of a mix up bag of seeds from a greenhouse run. Definitely cheese inside I know for sure and either burmese x Sensi Star or Kushberry
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Awesome plant. Leaves are overlapping... that farm of yours is impressive. How many acres (size of land do farm?) Have you been to the US? have seen our enchanted Giant Redwood jungle, one of the best climates in the USA to grow imo....

 

[lino]

Tastes of my last crop . Remember when reading; I pushed em way past due dates, harvests were @ wk 13-15. to produce ripe, strong seeds.
BUBBA
Ive already posted some pics of the original Bubba and the taste need not described to you again. This is an Epic epitome classic cut .

Mandy's Diesel @MandyJane :
I bred ISS x Tahoe. The father was proven to produce some quality offspring . THe 3 ISS crops of 14 plants produced wide variety of plant genotypes. 50% were of no value, low potency, some could hermy and weak plants. The seed was not worthy of seed distribution, HOWEVER Mandy hit a CHAMPION from the ISS x Tahoe ! I brought home cuts of all of Mandys plants and budded and bred. I stopped the hermies but the plants but hose plant still had low potency. I didnt see anything Id breed for in all of the plants but One. I will breed this plant to see if she keep that diesel taste in the seedlings.
The Mandy Diesel taste:
DIESEL - its TOO diesel on the smell & even in the taste. Dont get mad at me Mandy, in fact some might take Mandy's Diesel over the Epitome Bubba but Mandy's Diesel is So Diesely smell I had a cpl strange looks from ppl nose diving in the vial. Did any of you guy get the Mex gas & diesel brick week back in the day? The smell of this plant is almost pure petroleum. It reeks so strong I can taste diesel on the exhale, It doesnt leave a diesel taste on the pallet like the ol gas tank shit weed. Its a little harsh but I let this plant go a long time and NOTE: I didnt find any seeds, This might be my 1st seedless bud, more testing needed before I make that claim.
The High of Mandy's Diesel:
strong - my eyes get to red. Mundane , heavy, but of course it a heavy high as the plant went way past the harvest date. Lock you in the couch if over done.
6 wks

7 wks

ISS X Tahoe can go 9 - 10 wk harvest.

 

[Sun Valley]

My space is 1 ha of 30ha. I rent my.space privately but free to do whatever on the farm really. I hope by next year I'll have 20ha to own.
Never been to US unfortunately. I was on 5 years probation for smuggling from late 90s and from that could not get entry to the US. I woukd love to visit but not sure if I'm allowed or.my good behaviour the passed 20 years will have paid off hahaha

 

[lino]

My space is 1 ha of 30ha. I rent my.space privately but free to do whatever on the farm really. I hope by next year I'll have 20ha to own.
Never been to US unfortunately. I was on 5 years probation for smuggling from late 90s and from that could not get entry to the US. I woukd love to visit but not sure if I'm allowed or.my good behaviour the passed 20 years will have paid off hahaha

It seem like all us on the farm have had trouble of some sort. You cant find my criminal charges, I sealed them. I got denied access and was detained at Canada, THey stripped my car, found nothing,,
In the past I've been lucky and beat my charges. I sealed my records for cannabis arrests and have top security clearances for NORAD and the like, but Border Patrol Guards open all my records and I get arrested every time I try to leave the US. I have to see a consulate at the embassy of the country I'm visiting to get a passport stamp to leave.. its not our country that freaks out, its the country I'm visiting.

in 2000 Colo extinguished the Wyatt Erp laws of the 1800 for bail enforcement for ppl free on bail from jail awaiting court (dead or alive). I became an bail enforcement instructor for Colo so anytime I leave the country the visiting country thinks I'm going to take someone home with me. lol...
The DEA found out that I was flying w/o license, escorting them on cannabis air searches in the 80's, well that didnt go over well with the DEA when they figured out who I was in a huge cannabis court case that I won. At that moment they realized the FOX was guarding the hen house all those years... lol...
SO yep, I have to go to the embassy anytime I need to leave the USA.

 

[Sun Valley]

Wow that's crazy man! After 10 years I went to see criminal immunity officer to clear me which they did. But getting into the states is not easy for us. And any record they turn you away. Being illegal here growers are always on their toes as I'm sure you're familiar hehehe but yeah jails not nice here at all and the cops are sondirty you never know what's going to happen. We got caught with 1.2 tons in a set up down in the kzn province. By the time we had our 2nd hearing in court the evidence had gone down to 2 kilos. We were released without charge due to the dockets not matching the evidence but had sat for 3 months already. Got caught about 2 years later crossing the Swaziland border. Life and times hey. Stories for the grand kids while I pack their lunch :smoking:

 

[lino]

Wow that's crazy man! After 10 years I went to see criminal immunity officer to clear me which they did. But getting into the states is not easy for us. And any record they turn you away. Being illegal here growers are always on their toes as I'm sure you're familiar hehehe but yeah jails not nice here at all and the cops are sondirty you never know what's going to happen. We got caught with 1.2 tons in a set up down in the kzn province. By the time we had our 2nd hearing in court the evidence had gone down to 2 kilos. We were released without charge due to the dockets not matching the evidence but had sat for 3 months already. Got caught about 2 years later crossing the Swaziland border. Life and times hey. Stories for the grand kids while I pack their lunch :smoking:

Man , that so much like the US.. Its the same everywhere you go. Well the world is starting to see common sense, here in Colo we walk out the door with bags of weed in hand, we dont even hide. PLANTs,, thats a different story.... We hide em from public view and many of us use smell protection also.

 

[Sun Valley]

I can't wait for that kind of freedom too .. but fear the fat cats are going to do the same thing that's happening there. Pros and cons to everything in life I guess

 

[lino]

Fat Leaf High testing
Cavemanidca aka Desert Lights:
I cant wait to describe the finish of this plant ,,, I bet if you tasted the bud I'd watch your mind search, knowing that you have this taste come across your pallet before but many ol skool throw back (genes) and taste and HIGH in this plant ,,, @MandyJane let me know what you thought of Cavemanidca.

Wow, I pushed it to a 13 week finish to ripen seeds, so I dont know if this plant has been consumed this way. 2 braches were pollinated.
withOut a massive write up- here is what happens with massive hits of Desert Lights @13 wks

after 4 minutes:

At 6 minutes

15 minutes:

30 minutes

There is not much burn out in the Cavemandica aka Desert Lights.
The 1st pic is good depiction of the high if you're a heavy user, I tried it before I cleaned up for a drug test and after , and if you smoke this stuff after youve been clean you will feel/get all 4 effects.

I was not comfortable for awhile , in one sentence,,, Fucking ol HS days highs - late 70's - 80s high almost forgot about that shit ,,,,

 

[lino]

GENETICS , Cavemandica aka Desert Lights (CDL)
you'll think I'm kidding but I'm not, dude starting breeding this shit in the desert plants that survived year around OUTDOOR alive year after year were bred on a river/small run off. He kept males alive in desert wild year after year.
Dude brought in all kinds of plants to river. they kinda bred wild... Then he mixes in some inert hermies, hard core hermied this shit the rite way,,, all herm are inert, not fertile....
Dude puts plants threw MASSIVE light cycles and IMO even light stressed em for years of breeding, Then he breeds indoor and breed some Northern Light into it (which show in PLANT smell < NOT bag smell,) and bud structure.
IN THE JAR - The smell is funk, dirty socks, musty stanky bud, has some nice female undertone funk, w/o being to vulgar reminds me of hippie girl smell I was quite found of .... its a guy thang....
Then dude mixes in some old skool indian Highland Desert Strain,,, and he doing more of that as you read...
Bud on the Plant - the aroma of NL with strong smell of grapefruit funk , kinda grapefruit but not really, I cant find the description yet, everyone like CDL bud smell. Starts out FAT leaf and buds with a NL structure with little inert hermies Late if you stress her, but their good hermies little wht/yellow flowers, some will get big and scare ya. I kept her CDL with my crop with no worries and I had zero breeding problems with CDL. And I made seed to finialize the hermie gene in this plant. Its a breeder for the good herm, I'm amost 100% positive, but this last seed test will give me the ability to certify the seed of Breeder quality for herm zygousity testing/breeding . Make no confusion , this is plant is not what Farmers are calling bad Hermys, those are bad and have to be removed from gardens and destroyed for most breeders you'll be just fine with CDL in your garden; This plant went to 13 wks which was past its prime time harvest date I THINK. And many good quality plants will throw a little flower Late in bloom
Taste:
mellow with some / cpl coughs, not harsh, smooth creamy, take some hits and ya think ah its not big deal but not bad,,, I pretty high, not stoned but after a few minutes you'll be cleaning house, checking to see if you remembered to lock your car, cpl peep out the window to check on the garden, and soon you'll note warm ears and slight sweat on your palms if look for it, if you drink coffee look out....

 

[phoenixfire]

@Psychonaut47
Is this the shit your fucking with too? Old ass played out Northern Lights jajaja, just fucking witchyou Unk! I'm loving the GLR beans...
@lino
You got more pics of the Desert Lights?

 

[epitome]

GENETICS , Cavemandica aka Desert Lights (CDL)
you'll think I'm kidding but I'm not, dude starting breeding this shit in the desert plants that survived year around OUTDOOR alive year after year were bred on a river/small run off. He kept males alive in desert wild year after year.
Dude brought in all kinds of plants to river. they kinda bred wild... Then he mixes in some inert hermies, hard core hermied this shit the rite way,,, all herm are inert, not fertile....
Dude puts plants threw MASSIVE light cycles and IMO even light stressed em for years of breeding, Then he breeds indoor and breed some Northern Light into it (which show in PLANT smell < NOT bag smell,) and bud structure.
IN THE JAR - The smell is funk, dirty socks, musty stanky bud, has some nice female undertone funk, w/o being to vulgar reminds me of hippie girl smell I was quite found of .... its a guy thang....
Then dude mixes in some old skool indian Highland Desert Strain,,, and he doing more of that as you read...
Bud on the Plant - the aroma of NL with strong smell of grapefruit funk , kinda grapefruit but not really, I cant find the description yet, everyone like CDL bud smell. Starts out FAT leaf and buds with a NL structure with little inert hermies Late if you stress her, but their good hermies little wht/yellow flowers, some will get big and scare ya. I kept her CDL with my crop with no worries and I had zero breeding problems with CDL. And I made seed to finialize the hermie gene in this plant. Its a breeder for the good herm, I'm amost 100% positive, but this last seed test will give me the ability to certify the seed of Breeder quality for herm zygousity testing/breeding . Make no confusion , this is plant is not what Farmers are calling bad Hermys, those are bad and have to be removed from gardens and destroyed for most breeders you'll be just fine with CDL in your garden; This plant went to 13 wks which was past its prime time harvest date I THINK. And many good quality plants will throw a little flower Late in bloom
Taste:
mellow with some / cpl coughs, not harsh, smooth creamy, take some hits and ya think ah its not big deal but not bad,,, I pretty high, not stoned but after a few minutes you'll be cleaning house, checking to see if you remembered to lock your car, cpl peep out the window to check on the garden, and soon you'll note warm ears and slight sweat on your palms if look for it, if you drink coffee look out....

I'd love to see more pics too if you gottem? This is the fat leaf seedling right and you have not popped any other cavemandicas?

 

[lino]

Studs
Left to right:
Cannabinus x Cannabis.sativa.L (Morocco) - Perfect Flower Hybrid cross 31 ft
GG - came from dispense breeder
Cookie - the one in the back - from a dispense breeder, Orange Father
ECD - sht one front in tray
FirePower#3 - by itself, not in the tray with other males
FirePower#3 - in the tray with other males tall one next to the Cavemandica.
Cavemandica AKA Desert Lights (CDL) - Towering and dominating over the others.

We were cleaning gutters yesterday with a garden hose. I was asked what the hell you doing , the gutter dirt is flooding the plants. Im watering the plants with compost. Poor males. Biggest sacks on these very abused plants is the the CDL plant. CDL bred a @MandyJane Purple sativa (ISS x Tahoe) x CDL
A BAD HERMY x GOOD HERMY...
The bad hermy's sister/bro's are either CHAMPs of the PUREST Diesel or fuck azz weak fertile early Hermy.

If anyone is noticing my FirePowers are breeding good , no herms, NOTE, i'm fucking around with hermy breeding also.... i'm using 4 variant of the MeGI hermaphrodite gene to establish zygositiy predictability of the offspring thru sexlinked breeding practices. I can throw down youtube of geneticists explaining betterr than I can of what I'm doing detailing better than I can, If your working with herms and geneticist I will have to walk your Geneticist thru the MeGI and DOI DNA sequence to get a comprehension on cannabis DNA con sed of herms.

 

[lino]

Cannabinus is not a typo.

 

[Psychonaut47]

Cannabinus is not a typo.

Jajajajaja intriguing, sounds like some potent plants your fucking wit Lino.

 

[lino]

Sexual Abuse on my Farm:
@MandyJane Diesel cuts were raped by Straight Male Tahoe and a Closet Gay Male CDL.
lot of genetics tests going on here as I'm going to prove the DNA without DNA making slabs, I know the out come of each seed before propagation as far as which will be Herm and which seed will be straight and prove DNA makers are true and co-exisist with the punnet charts to predict zygousity of gay offspring, complex until you break it down in simplest terms and understand gays and then the light bulb will go off in your head, you'll get it,,, dont put on dresses if you think your gay, lets put it that way...

MeGI is hermy gay 3 way DNA SWITCH, turn it on and off - exist in humans/some primates, cannabis, some trees, and some vines

I turned off all the hermy expressions on all of Mandy's Diesel at my house.

If you're in bio class use this experiment to demo Autosomal and sexlinked breeding to prove my hermy facts in cannabis... by Lino
this guy hits on the head, bazz breeder , dont argue with him,


Here is Mandy Diesel carrier of the Hermy gene, prime feature of sexlinked inheritence and autosomal breeding techniques to determine ratio's/ this is the plant demo's that will prove what I say and I'm presenting data to prove it to smart ppl.


The Dark Seeds deep inside the bud have straight tahoe father. the lite grn seeds developing on the outside has the closet gay father of CDL. And remember the Mother is Full Gay Recessive (carrier gene), if your gay zygosities comprehension laid out you know whats going to happen in each seed propagation (or probability of each seed , better said that way) in this case we mapped the hermy

So students have asked Lino you seed are mixed, How can you be sure of the pedigree of the CDL dads, who's who, as far as dads go? My Answer: and yes we can ID many most of the CDL seeds that have a slight poss of the Tahoe being the father ,,, Id answer yes but with punnet mapping we can propagate blind cuz one of the father will produce 100% hermies in this case, So we know the pedigree of each seed at the beginning of flower/bud cycle when plants show sex. the objective of this experiment is to prove which father when bred with this hermy carrier mother will produce 100% offspring of hermies and or straights,,,,

I not clear in text blogs, but this guy is better than me at explaining in even more detail homies ifyou're science breeder.


And I left this out to help your mind eat this mind cookie
The Mother Mandy's Diesel with Tahoe dad - was at 6 weeks
The Mother Mandy's Diesel with CDL dad - was at 10 weeks

the seeds will look very different to help start the ID process , the plant is at 16 weeks of budding. Plant is stressed bad from pregnancy and bugs.

 

[lino]

all this might be too much at once, but I laid it all out academia style but my Gay Gene Primer Thread (Ethics in Breeding) was removed , so I wasnt able to instruct ethics in breeding which is a primer to zygosity , this was prelude to my Seed2Seed thread which is a prelude to this breeding curriculum . so if you've followed me for years this might not be as much to swallow all at once... anyway,,, if your speed reading and not studying my crappy cryptic writing, then Rock on with Hermies! ! !

 

[lino]

Jajajajaja intriguing, sounds like some potent plants your fucking wit Lino.

I learned my lesson, you top the shit out of Cannabinus x Cannabis.sativa.L (Morocco) or it can get 40' and too tall unless you're in a 100' rainforest forest. At this farm is a 40 ft jungle with an 8 ft tall grn house, 14 ft steel pole houses all inside a polypipe grn house that goes 25 ft to a roof and she will grow out of those grow houses by june , she'll be to the top canopy of 40 ft jungle by august with a 12 inch perfect flower... my rarest plant, less than a 100 pure Cannabinus exist and this is the only plant in the USA of Cannabinus x Cannabis.sativa.L (Morocco) I sold a copy.

topped at 2 week, its 3.5 wk old @4'11" with pot. she's bout ready for the jungle.

 

[lino]

@MandyJane has some other seeds of crossses Ive made from the cannabinus crossed with some other rare flowers. I hope to see them germed this soon.

 

[Psychonaut47]

I learned my lesson, you top the shit out of Cannabinus x Cannabis.sativa.L (Morocco) or it can get 40' and too tall unless you're in a 100' rainforest forest. At this farm is a 40 ft jungle with an 8 ft tall grn house, 14 ft steel pole houses all inside a polypipe grn house that goes 25 ft to a roof and she will grow out of those grow houses by june , she'll be to the top canopy of 40 ft jungle by august with a 12 inch perfect flower... my rarest plant, less than a 100 pure Cannabinus exist and this is the only plant in the USA of Cannabinus x Cannabis.sativa.L (Morocco) I sold a copy.
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topped at 2 week, its 3.5 wk old @4'11" with pot. she's bout ready for the jungle.

Fucking nuts