Stop The Bro Science Behind Molasses And Other Organic Stuff

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MW7945

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Hpo777 said:
The organic industry is bullshit? Lol

Why are nutritional values falling at an alarming rate in the inorganic industry then? Lol

Why are yields and taste falling in the inorganic industry? Lol

Why are more and more fertilizers having to be used by the inorganic industry then? While organic no till farmers are using less and less?

Tons of scientific evidence supporting every one of my claims.
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As a "inorganic" farmer, none of what you just said is accurate in any way.

The organic food industry is a load of shit because it's highly unregulated. It's paying twice as much for the word "organic" on the box in most instances.

Lmao @ yields falling.
 
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MW7945 said:
Just always kind of assumed it was a bunch of bullshit, as is the organic food industry.

Seems to be a lot of anecdotal "evidence" in terms of better tasting/smelling
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Organic food is bs? I dunno, my organic vegetable garden is pretty kick ass. Why the need to use manufactured nutrients when plants don’t need them?

And with cannabis, my evidence is just first hand experience. All the reasons I listed above which make it easier and cheaper, and my bud is better than when I used bottled nutes. Just my experience. I’ve seen great inorganic cannabis as well. Nothing BS about organic. Seems like you want to convince us that it is BS. It is just simple growing, from the earth, no middle man manufacturing. Easy natural growing. How can that be BS?

Not talking about grocery stores here, just growing plants.
 
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I’m not trying to convince you my stuff is better, I wouldn’t do that. What I enjoy is not going to the grow show every other week and spending my $ on things I don’t need.
 
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Underthesun said:
and my bud is better than when I used bottled nutes.
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Anecdotal though. You're likely a better grower with more experience now than when you grew inorganic.

I'm not saying you should/shouldn't go organic. I have no problem buying inorganic nutes. Me coming in here and preaching not using organic would be like me bursting into a church yelling God isn't real. Nothing would get accomplished aside from dirty looks.
 
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MW7945 said:
Anecdotal though. You're likely a better grower with more experience though.

I'm not saying you should/shouldn't go organic. I have no problem buying inorganic nutes. Me coming in here and preaching not using organic would be like me bursting into a church yelling God isn't real. Nothing would get accomplished aside from dirty looks.
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Okay, sure. Quality asside, per pound of bud I spend pennies on the dollar than I used. And composting is fun.
 
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MW7945 said:
As a "inorganic" farmer, none of
MW7945 said:
That's gardening. Not farming. Could give a shit less about organic vs inorganic gardening tbh. A tomato is a tomato to me. I have an organic garden. When it comes to large-scale cash crops you'd be a fool to grow organic.
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All of that info pertains to large crop farming. Which I might add I was raised on a cattle farm in Texas, growing alfalfa and wheat grass. Both of which were no till. My parents saved $12 an acre on pesticides and had far better winter grazes than our local farmers. After 2 years we added 0 fertilizers. I actually have all of the documentation of results cost per acre from them, it's the reason I'm pursuing a degree in soil biology. I'm not trying to argue I promise, I'm just a little over passionate haha
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All of that info pertains to large crop farming. Which I might add I was raised on a cattle farm in Texas, growing alfalfa and wheat grass. Both of which were no till. My parents saved $12 an acre on pesticides and had far better winter grazes than our local farmers. After 2 years we added 0 fertilizers. I actually have all of the documentation of results cost per acre from them, it's the reason I'm pursuing a degree in soil biology. I'm not trying to argue I promise, I'm just a little over passionate haha

That posted in a reply...weird
 
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Hpo777 said:
All of that info pertains to large crop farming. Which I might add I was raised on a cattle farm in Texas, growing alfalfa and wheat grass. Both of which were no till. My parents saved $12 an acre on pesticides and had far better winter grazes than our local farmers. After 2 years we added 0 fertilizers. I actually have all of the documentation of results cost per acre from them, it's the reason I'm pursuing a degree in soil biology. I'm not trying to argue I promise, I'm just a little over passionate haha

That posted in a reply...weird
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So... your information is going off growing grass... My dog pees on the lawn and grass still grows.

Throw some soybeans or corn in the ground and see how well they flourish without fertilizers.
 
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Provide some evidence for your claims. After 2008 please(when organic no till really became a science more than a method)
 
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K, you're just scratching for bullshit now. 32-38 sounds like shit seeds to me.
 
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brazel said:
Flush that's something funny right there if the companies knew what they were selling you there be no reason to flush.. But they don't so that's why you got to flush and then flush what does that do? Clear the root Zone how does that flush the plant? So by that thinking I can I flush my colon If I just take a shower
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there is no flush, there is only leach or fix. Flushing is for toilets, plants cant be flushed, they can be starved and this might have benefits or not.
 
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MW7945 said:
Lol, I just find it ironic people are inhaling smoke but "worry about what they're putting in their body".

Maybe that's just me. Carry on
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yeah i think thats just you buddy. Unless you prefer to put additional vapors beyond the plants own carbons and VOCs etc. i mean who dont like to smoke a bit of roundup as well...I mean, it's all smoke right and thats all the same hey???
 
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brazel said:
Find me at burning man, envision, lucidity, lightning in a bottle dot-dot-dot excetera and you will find me with more things in my body then you could possibly name but that still doesn't mean I would smoke anything other than herb that I know is grown organically!
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what you can control you should, there is so much of life about which we get no choice
 
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Hpo777 said:
Hey guys! I'd like to shed a little more light on Compost tea! I think alot of people get carried away with ingredients and such!

Bubble your water to remove chlorine, then add some humic acids to neutralize the chloramine(dilute this solution BEFORE mixing with water)

Kelp Meal mixed BEFORE putting into your brewer or bucket


Good aerobic compost(.2lbs per gallon) as Elaine Ingham States there should be of thousands of bacteria in each field of view, 1 strand of fungal hyphae in each 5 fields, 1 flagellate or amoebae in each 5 to 10 fields of view and 1 beneficiall nematode per drop. I usually have my scope set at 500x to get proper readings.

If not enough fungi I'll add some oats, if not enough bacteria add some more compost in very small doses and examine again, until your reach the measures from above.

Fish hydroslate is also a very good food! Especially if you don't have a microscope. Don't let recipes get out of hand! Compost and kelp are the best sources and compost is free!

Honestly if you're super into Teas and compostand trying to achieve the best results...a microscope should be your top priority! I recommend you to 2500x. Most of these can be hooked up to a computer which is great when your starting because you can save images and compare to online, and they are usually only about $250! Which is cheap honestly.
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unless you scope your compost and tea, there is no way of knowing you have a biome, dont matter what inputs you use. There is no such thing as a sure thing if you dont investigate the inputs 1st
 
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