Stop The Bro Science Behind Molasses And Other Organic Stuff

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Underthesun said:
Lots of reasons to grow organic other than health. Easy, just water when your soil is established. Compost your home scraps, free nutes and good for the environment. Save lots of money. Water less. Super smooth smoke. Colorful buds. Very tasty buds. Re-use your soil over and over again. Start a vegetable garden, just adds more compost for your meds. The list is endless, you should look into it if you haven’t already.
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spoken like a true gent :-)
 
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MW7945 said:
Just always kind of assumed it was a bunch of bullshit, as is the organic food industry.

Seems to be a lot of anecdotal "evidence" in terms of better tasting/smelling
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LOL dude what? Are you for real? in blind assay, organic buds get selected over synthetic time and time again. I am not sure this is still anecdotal, but there is a vast amount of evidence that non organic growing is detrimental to both soil carbon quality and air/ atmospheric and water quality too.
A reluctance to admit what is blindingly obvious in light of soil loss and so on, is just an example of the pig headed god like nature of some men.
I would love to be able to cloud my own reality to such an extent that i might also be able to live up my own arse
 
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LOL dude what? Are you for real? in blind assay, organic buds get selected over synthetic time and time again. I am not sure this is still anecdotal, but there is a vast amount of evidence that non organic growing is detrimental to both soil carbon quality and air/ atmospheric and water quality too.
A reluctance to admit what is blindingly obvious in light of soil loss and so on, is just an example of the pig headed god like nature of some men.
I would love to be able to cloud my own reality to such an extent that i might also be able to live up my own arse
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Lol
 
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It isn't imagined that the pot is better. Like I said research influences by enzymatic activities on terpene and canabinoid profiles. Even when there is exoskeleton in the soil a plant reacts. It's why some guys use insect frass. You can't argue a subject you didn't bother looking into.

Research symbiosis of bacteria and fungi and plants while you're at it. Everything in nature is connected.

Plants don't eat NPK. Even though this is a touchy subject even among us here. I believe a plants diet is similar to ours. They actually eat peptides and nuceleotides. The first plants were more than likely carnivorous. When feeding your venus fly traps what NPK do you use?
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Organikz said:
It isn't imagined that the pot is better. Like I said research influences by enzymatic activities on terpene and canabinoid profiles. Even when there is exoskeleton in the soil a plant reacts. It's why some guys use insect frass. You can't argue a subject you didn't bother looking into.

Research symbiosis of bacteria and fungi and plants while you're at it. Everything in nature is connected.
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some data on polymers and bacteria and interactions between carbon and nitrogen :-)
happy reading
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3536121/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3682446/
 
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perhaps had the so called wine experts of napa valley, used organics and Mycorrhizae, they might not have lost so much during the recent heat and subsequent fires. Loss of SOM % is helping to over dry our systems, loss of soil glomalins through excessive tillage and synthetic nutrients and fungicides have fundamentally baked disaster in to the summer period.
Glomalin is a wonderful store of water, helping to keep our soils damp and cool even in the height of summer. it is this property that allows plants hosting mycorrhizal fungi have added drought protection. The loss of critical soil biota is manifesting in ways that have real impact on everyone, not just the hard pressed farmers
 
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Ecompost said:
LOL dude what? Are you for real? in blind assay, organic buds get selected over synthetic time and time again. I am not sure this is still anecdotal, but there is a vast amount of evidence that non organic growing is detrimental to both soil carbon quality and air/ atmospheric and water quality too.
A reluctance to admit what is blindingly obvious in light of soil loss and so on, is just an example of the pig headed god like nature of some men.
I would love to be able to cloud my own reality to such an extent that i might also be able to live up my own arse
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Well, I'm growing in 3 gallon smart pots with coco. So. Not exactly too worried about soil, air, or water quality.

Just wait until Monsanto gets ahold of cannabis seeds. Things are going to be 18 feet tall with 3lb colas. Hnnnnnnnggg



Also wtf is this blabbing about venus fly traps? You got one you feed organic flies to or what?
 
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Ecompost said:
unless you scope your compost and tea, there is no way of knowing you have a biome, dont matter what inputs you use. There is no such thing as a sure thing if you dont investigate the inputs 1st
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I love looking under my scope! Alot of fun to see all the life going on we can't see. At the same time I've wasted 24 hours of brewing only for it to be sub par lol had to hit with water then try a tea again lol it's a little difficult to obtain a proper tea. Why I am so against molasses, which in my experience is easier to go anaerobic.
 
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MW7945 said:
Well, I'm growing in 3 gallon smart pots with coco. So. Not exactly too worried about soil, air, or water quality.

Just wait until Monsanto gets ahold of cannabis seeds. Things are going to be 18 feet tall with 3lb colas. Hnnnnnnnggg



Also wtf is this blabbing about venus fly traps? You got one you feed organic flies to or what?
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Yea can't wait for the birth defects, lung diseases and loss of eye sight! Whoohoooo!
 
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MW7945 said:
The device you're using to post on here emits cancerous radiation. Quick, dig a hole under a rock and live under it!
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Lol safesleeve....

Go back to turning your soil into dirt and leave us be.

I save money, lots of money by being no till.

I don't buy soil
I don't buy nutrients
I don't buy pesticides
I don't pots

I save time by not transplanting
I save time by less watering
I save time by no feeding

So let's say your right, it's all bs. I'd still be no till and organic because of those reasons above and many more. If you like dumping money and time, that's fine. Personally I like my microorganisms to do my work for me:) and without being organic your microorganisms are destroyed...slowly well sometimes fast depending, but still destroying. I like saving money and time. End of story.
 
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Anyone tried a coco no till? I'm attempting to try one now, still in the process of ensuring everything is bio available, but I have no idea what to expect from it. Trying to get away from peat moss, and can't find any info pertaining to coco and no till. So hopefully either someone can give info or at least exchange some ideas
 
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Whoaaaaa cant you all disagree without the attitudes. Tighten it up fellas.
 
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MW7945 said:
It seems the organic crowd is easily triggered and highly opinionated :)
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Well you know the old sayn bout opinions we all have em. :D Just didnt want to see it head to a pissing match between the synthetic and organics crowd. Man we pot farmers are a sensitive/passionate bunch arent we. :)
 
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MW7945 said:
I already said I have no bias towards organic. Just that I have no want/need for that route. Meanwhile.... organic pot farmers saving the world one plant at a time.
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That then leads to this question, if your a synthetic guy at heart then why hang out in the organics forums? It could be perceived by some that you are trolling. Just sayn!!!
 
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