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#17,141
Just a friendly reminder

this for UC/DWC/F&D and anyone checking runoff of DTW

this is the Formula

PH up/ec down = plants hungry
PH down/ec up = plants not eating

for those who run large scale operations with a doser control
high end facilities will have a monitor of runoff constantly
the runoff will tell the computer to raise or lower dose limits due to runoff and plant eating habbits
PH is only a factor of what the ec is doing
that goes for all media type from Coco to H2O
this information is very crucial in something like say aquaponics when monitoring Nitrate/Nitrite levels and the rise and fall of ph as the plants eat

the trick is to get the plant stable in its eating habbits and adjust so the ppms and ph remain stable

which can mean raising or lowering the ppm of the feed solution
 
#17,142
Wisher619 said:
Just a friendly reminder

this for UC/DWC/F&D and anyone checking runoff of DTW

this is the Formula

PH up/ec down = plants hungry
PH down/ec up = plants not eating

for those who run large scale operations with a doser control
high end facilities will have a monitor of runoff constantly
the runoff will tell the computer to raise or lower dose limits due to runoff and plant eating habbits
PH is only a factor of what the ec is doing
that goes for all media type from Coco to H2O
this information is very crucial in something like say aquaponics when monitoring Nitrate/Nitrite levels and the rise and fall of ph as the plants eat

the trick is to get the plant stable in its eating habbits and adjust so the ppms and ph remain stable

which can mean raising or lowering the ppm of the feed solution
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Ok what about when the PH is going down & the EC is going down?
Every time i drained/refilled my UC system on my last round that would happen for the first 4 days or so until the PH stabilized..

The only thing i can think is that the plants were not eating but they still drank a bit and then the RO would top off the system and lower the EC..? (RO was hooked up to a float valve for top off)
 
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bicky studs said:
i cant find my question anymore...
is a 500l/hr pump enough for a diy cloner?
i guess bigger is not better in this case, due to heat from the pump.
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yes

jipp said:
hey Event i have a confession. laughs. when i thought you and incgneto were new like me i was annoyed how they gave you answers and i had to go through the fucking spanish inquisition to get the answer. laughs. but it makes sense now.

we both can laugh at it. you played the noob well i must say. :p or maybe i was to sick to notice..

smoking a plemon joint rolled in blue cookies kieth it gets you high :p or i was now i will go roll a few more. not oil but better than being sober hah.

bowl up homie.
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I was a newb!
As newb as wood is now..
But i found wisher, and then i just got better quickly..I went after it like it was my last heavyweight fight for the Championship..
Im retardedly passionate about things when I make my mind up that I want to do something..
Foolish Arrogance maybe, but I have always felt what one man could do, so could I...

MW7945 said:
Welp, just did all my christmas shopping. Aka bought my parents a present. Idk what I'd do without Amazon
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you and me both!

Itzdwoodduhh said:
Morning everyone, looks like progress to me, the sj not stressing at all. Anywas soo the temp only got down to 64 in the tent last night with lights and fan off, that being said ill bump the heat up to 70 in my room at night and that should keep the tent mid to upper 60s at night lights out. Should work for now. Still soo sketched ab leaving my roomie to take care of the girls for a week tomorrow. Waking up early to feed, making sure the heater is cut up a lil at night and down a lil during the day and everyyyything else. Lol not really his strong suit. Haha he said he has it tho and i labled everything soo we should be ok.
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Well help an old lady accross the street.. Get your aura around you in a positive color.. Weed gods might take care of you..
Believe in the force,,,,, and leave good notes lol

bicky studs said:
i know what we can do with that:drunk:
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I was waiting for that comment!!!

bicky studs said:
@Wisher619 the clones perking up now. but starting to show defficeincies....my run off was ph 6.9 today.
do you think the defs are a result of the high ph...roots decaying, causing blockout.
when i feed them theres a oily looking film on top of the water in the pot. it seems to stay on the top of the coco tho. should i feed till overflow tomorrow let it run out the top? or is that normal coco stuff....
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ive had that and i have no idea wtf it was. I just kept my foot on the petal and pushed forward...

incogneato said:
That's what i did, traded smoking cigs for working out. Damn addictive tendencies.

Haha, see, not just me lol. I cant imagine theres rod or grout in there at all. At least all the mud thats supposed to be in the joints is probably down the wall lol.
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good trade!!!

Wisher619 said:
there shouldnt be anything lookin oily
I always feed to runoff
the high ph dosnt sound good
it could be the roots being broken down

coco has a tendency to raise ph as it has a good buffering capacity and a natural ph of around 6.5

dont read tunoff ph only runoff ppm

that will tell you to lower or raise the pom

if the ppms in runoff is higher then lower going in if lower than raise going in until even
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ive had it before too. Usually right after tea to plants that have sick pythium root systems.. It looks like a thin film on top. Scary at first.. Just keep pushing forward with proper feed and tea..

Wisher619 said:
Just a friendly reminder

this for UC/DWC/F&D and anyone checking runoff of DTW

this is the Formula

PH up/ec down = plants hungry
PH down/ec up = plants not eating

for those who run large scale operations with a doser control
high end facilities will have a monitor of runoff constantly
the runoff will tell the computer to raise or lower dose limits due to runoff and plant eating habbits
PH is only a factor of what the ec is doing
that goes for all media type from Coco to H2O
this information is very crucial in something like say aquaponics when monitoring Nitrate/Nitrite levels and the rise and fall of ph as the plants eat

the trick is to get the plant stable in its eating habbits and adjust so the ppms and ph remain stable

which can mean raising or lowering the ppm of the feed solution
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Whattttttttt?
Lol...
That was prob a few ppl..
They prob reread it 5 times..
I used copy and paste things you said into a file on the desktop called Wishers world..
I erased it a few months ago as i have all the info in my head now...
 
#17,145
Oh ya...
46 years old baby.....
19.5 miles in 60 mins..
With the extra 5 mins cool down i made it 20 miles in 65 mins and burnt 400 colories..
I didnt even eat 400 colories today...
 

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#17,146
This guy is getting ready to set up an automated system.. @Meakanu
Wondered if you guys got the perfect timer for him?
I use my c02 timer on my environmental controller these days.
@Wisher619 @Thejoeybrown
get him good timer that has 1 to 60 sec timer, with 24 hr programming..
What is it again you both use?
 
#17,147
Toph420 said:
Ok what about when the PH is going down & the EC is going down?
Every time i drained/refilled my UC system on my last round that would happen for the first 4 days or so until the PH stabilized..

The only thing i can think is that the plants were not eating but they still drank a bit and then the RO would top off the system and lower the EC..? (RO was hooked up to a float valve for top off)
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Actually your ph should have been rising if your ec was dropping but the water was being topped because the ph of water is much higher like 6.5-7

so I dont know
 
#17,150
EventHorizan said:
This guy is getting ready to set up an automated system.. @Meakanu
Wondered if you guys got the perfect timer for him?
I use my c02 timer on my environmental controller these days.
@Wisher619 @Thejoeybrown
get him good timer that has 1 to 60 sec timer, with 24 hr programming..
What is it again you both use?
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Joey uses a titan controler I believe

I use your standard 1min timer super simple Harbor Freight digital
it was like $10.00
 
#17,156
is there anything I can do to try and help struggling seeds? This has happened to me a few times now where the tail pops out like 1/16 of an inch but then growth stops.. pretty bummed as all 3 of my afgoo seeds did this, might email the company see if I can get some replacements :( ...(popped about 20 seeds and this happened to 5 of them)

They are sitting in ziplock baggies inside a paper towel soaked in RO.. sitting on top of my comcast box for warmth..
 
#17,157
Toph420 said:
is there anything I can do to try and help struggling seeds? This has happened to me a few times now where the tail pops out like 1/16 of an inch but then growth stops.. pretty bummed as all 3 of my afgoo seeds did this, might email the company see if I can get some replacements :( ...(popped about 20 seeds and this happened to 5 of them)

They are sitting in ziplock baggies inside a paper towel soaked in RO.. sitting on top of my comcast box for warmth..
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Could be old stock or poorly stored stock. I had some issues like that when i started out. Looking back i still dont do anything different and i get damn near 100%
 
#17,158
Toph420 said:
is there anything I can do to try and help struggling seeds? This has happened to me a few times now where the tail pops out like 1/16 of an inch but then growth stops.. pretty bummed as all 3 of my afgoo seeds did this, might email the company see if I can get some replacements :( ...(popped about 20 seeds and this happened to 5 of them)

They are sitting in ziplock baggies inside a paper towel soaked in RO.. sitting on top of my comcast box for warmth..
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seed is prob a dud.
 
#17,159
incogneato said:
Could be old stock or poorly stored stock. I had some issues like that when i started out. Looking back i still dont do anything different and i get damn near 100%
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EventHorizan said:
seed is prob a dud.
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That’s sorta what I was thinking, maybe I’ll email the company see if I can get some replacements..
 
#17,160
Toph420 said:
is there anything I can do to try and help struggling seeds? This has happened to me a few times now where the tail pops out like 1/16 of an inch but then growth stops.. pretty bummed as all 3 of my afgoo seeds did this, might email the company see if I can get some replacements :( ...(popped about 20 seeds and this happened to 5 of them)

They are sitting in ziplock baggies inside a paper towel soaked in RO.. sitting on top of my comcast box for warmth..
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I put all seeds in the fridge for 24 hours
tgen soak in water in the dark in at least 70f
in 12-24 hours the tail pops I will put directly in coco
if not
I will put in a cotton ball soaked in water into a small hot sauce container ....type you get at the mexiraunt
and pop the lid on and put on top of my T-5
in a day they isually open all the way then into the coco
 
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