A Month In On 8 Gelato

[NHWhites]

I think the weight is slightly improved with bigger and better main colas. Unless you plan on blasting or making edibles, the larf isn’t worth having around

 

[Shawnery]

4/24/18

Lolli!

 

[Shawnery]

I just have to be honest.

I am so damn proud of myself so far with this grow. I took everything I learned from here and applied it with my own spin. Everything has gone so good and they look so spectacular. I ended up with a full 5x9 canopy and it is full. Maybe a little to full but if to much is the only problem I'm happy.

The only problem is I still got a month and a half for things to go bad. But fingers crossed I'll be able to make it to the end. If it's possible to ask for a little extra I wouldn't mind a few coke can colas.

 

[Shawnery]

I think I have way to many branches in the canopy. Each plant has 8 to 12 main colas but then an extra 8 to 12 smaller sub-branches. Every lollipoped and pruned multi-cola plant I've seen has a total of 8 or 12 colas and thats it.

I'm a week into flowering and wondering if I should remove all the smaller undergrown branches so I only have colas left?

If you need photos I'll post some tomorrow, it's a little late and lights out. It's so full in there the plants are growing into eachother and pushing against the walls of the tent.

Thanks!!

 

[NHWhites]

Get rid of what isn’t going to get light. It’s still ok to prune but take it slow and see how they respond. Cut a few branches off each today and if they seem ok, continue with more pruning tomorrow

 

[Junk]

I think I have way to many branches in the canopy. Each plant has 8 to 12 main colas but then an extra 8 to 12 smaller sub-branches. Every lollipoped and pruned multi-cola plant I've seen has a total of 8 or 12 colas and thats it.

I'm a week into flowering and wondering if I should remove all the smaller undergrown branches so I only have colas left?

If you need photos I'll post some tomorrow, it's a little late and lights out. It's so full in there the plants are growing into eachother and pushing against the walls of the tent.

Thanks!!

Your early pics the plants look cal/mag deficient, just fyi.

2.2 Ec in DWC isn't extremely high, but I understand what you are saying. In DWC, it's pretty easy to run high ec. It's all about the balance in the recipe.

You may be able to get away with just a good defoliation, but a pic would help. I defoliate day 21 and 42 and get better results than not defoliating. If you defoliate, do it before lights out. If you do it that way in DWC, you don't seem to lose any time.

Your current problem (or soon to be problem) is light penetration. There are a few ways to fix it. Add lower or side lighting, do another prune (no ideal) to get rid of the stuff that won't get light, or defoliate strongly so that light does reach the growth. Or a combo of those.

Next time you will have a better idea of how many tops to put, bc you will be aware of how bushy that particular strain gets.

 

[Shawnery]

It's just usually when you see photos of topped plants you only see 8 or 10 branches that are huge but no smaller ones with them. I'll add a photo later when I get back from the dog park.

 

[Monster762]

I know it sounds crazy to share with my neighbors but it was something I felt I had to do. They've all known since my first grow and have had no issues. I actually speak to them about it and they ask me question very regularly. All of them are older mature people with families who have professional careers.

Just put a sign says people caught here after dark will be found here in the morning.

 

[Junk]

It's just usually when you see photos of topped plants you only see 8 or 10 branches that are huge but no smaller ones with them. I'll add a photo later when I get back from the dog park.

I'm running gelato 33 now, so I know what u mean. It becomes a monster bush. People who grow well, grow the same strain multiple times to get it down right.

You can ask ahead of time if anyone has run a strain. e.g. I could have told u gelato does that (if I saw the thread lol) Some strains are the opposite, the tops are all u get. It often takes more than one try to grow a strain well.

If u can get away with defoliating, that's would be the best route imo. Instead of thinning out the branches, thin out the leaves, na mean?

Dwc in itself is a little tricky to get used to bc it's so fast. That may be part of it.

 

[Shawnery]

Here's a number of photos. The little bit of yellow spotting on the leaves is from PWM treatment not nutes, happened the next morning.

I have a close up of one where you can see the tops and then the branches on the edges that are a bit lower. I'm wondering if I should just get rid of everything not within a few inches of the canopy?

 

[Junk]

Here's a number of photos. The little bit of yellow spotting on the leaves is from PWM treatment not nutes, happened the next morning.

I have a close up of one where you can see the tops and then the branches on the edges that are a bit lower. I'm wondering if I should just get rid of everything not within a few inches of the canopy?

Day 21 I would just defoliate hard. 3-5 fans per lead. Again on day 42. Be aggressive with it. I think u can see your plants are in the zone (nice job by the way) they are barely going to flinch when u do it. But it's better to get them all at once right before lights off than to span it over a few days.

Cutting branches right now would be a bad idea imo. This is when u want the hard and fast growth. Pruning will stunt the speed u have going right now. Defoliating will stress them less than pruning and u will end up with a righteous haul in the end.

They look good!

 

[Shawnery]

Cleaned, pruned and everything lower than 2/3rds height removed. I've been a pretty heavy pruner and never had my girls go into shock. Infact most of the time after I pruned they have an explosion of growth. Guess we'll see what this gets me in a few days.

 

[Junk]

Cleaned, pruned and everything lower than 2/3rds height removed. I've been a pretty heavy pruner and never had my girls go into shock. Infact most of the time after I pruned they have an explosion of growth. Guess we'll see what this gets me in a few days.

It doesn't put them into shock. This stage of growth is fast and furious...it's directly related to your yield. Pruning a week after the flip will slow them down in that phase, lowering the yield. It's the reason people don't lollipop after the flip.

But next time you'll know that what it looks like now, is what it should look like after you lollipop it. Then let it get its legs back, then flip.

 

[DismalDude]

A friend of mine has an Uncle somewhere in Colorado.They have a grow op and dispensary,nope,don't know the name but I was lucky enough to sample their Gelato and it was really,really nice.Your grow is looking great,keep on keepin on! I'm looking at getting into DWC and reading your diary is kinda inspiring me to do it sooner than later. ;)

 

[Shawnery]

It doesn't put them into shock. This stage of growth is fast and furious...it's directly related to your yield. Pruning a week after the flip will slow them down in that phase, lowering the yield. It's the reason people don't lollipop after the flip.

But next time you'll know that what it looks like now, is what it should look like after you lollipop it. Then let it get its legs back, then flip.

I've read that it's fine up to the third week of bloom but I've read the opposite. Oh the fun world of cannabis growing information overload. You can't win in the world of cannabis help and know how. At some point I you have to point and shoot and this grow has been all about that for me.

I don't mean that in a rude way at all because I appreciate any and all advice but one thing I've learned, is at the end only I am responsible.

 

[Shawnery]

A friend of mine has an Uncle somewhere in Colorado.They have a grow op and dispensary,nope,don't know the name but I was lucky enough to sample their Gelato and it was really,really nice.Your grow is looking great,keep on keepin on! I'm looking at getting into DWC and reading your diary is kinda inspiring me to do it sooner than later. ;)

I've had meager results on my first grow which was a scrog. I had to throw out my second grow because it went for a up. This is my third grow and what I realized is that I had to listen to myself. That doesn't mean not listening to advice but learning what advice is bad, what advice is good and what advice is just opinion with no good or bad outcome.

DWC is not easy or I'm just really bad but either way it's not the easiest. You have very little time to fix a problem but when you do you can fix it easy and fast. If your close to losing your plants you're really close. There's just so much more leway when using soil or the like.

It is very satisfying when you get it right but I spend everyday wondering if I'm going to make it to the end and if the cost will be worth the yield.

Good luck either way and if you're interested in what I did this time that worked so well I'm more than willing to share.

 

[DismalDude]

I've had meager results on my first grow which was a scrog. I had to throw out my second grow because it went for a up. This is my third grow and what I realized is that I had to listen to myself. That doesn't mean not listening to advice but learning what advice is bad, what advice is good and what advice is just opinion with no good or bad outcome.

DWC is not easy or I'm just really bad but either way it's not the easiest. You have very little time to fix a problem but when you do you can fix it easy and fast. If your close to losing your plants you're really close. There's just so much more leway when using soil or the like.

It is very satisfying when you get it right but I spend everyday wondering if I'm going to make it to the end and if the cost will be worth the yield.

Good luck either way and if you're interested in what I did this time that worked so well I'm more than willing to share.

Thanks for sharing man,appreciated.The closest I've come to hydro was hempy buckets using perlite.That grow did pretty well but still had my eye on DWC.I've read enough now to be where I'm comfortable with the idea.I think it's about time to pull the trigger in the next couple grows.Hauling soil is getting a bit back breaking and messy.

 

[Shawnery]

My plants are thirsty. 8 plants and 11 gallons in 2 days.

 

[Shawnery]

Ec starting to rise as water drops 8n flower at same nutrient level as vegetative.

All things being equal your plants should need more nutrients during flowering right?

For some reason the same nutrient level as 2 weeks ago in veg is now to high in bloom, any ideas.

I'm going to lower my ec to 1.8 and see what happens. If it goes down with water I need more if it stays the same all is good but if it goes up, then I'm flushing because that would make zero sense.

I only have burned tips and very small but the quick rise in nutrient level should not be happening at this point. I DON'T THINK?

 

[Shawnery]

Another thing that is strange about these girls is the way the roots grew. Instead of having tiny hairs just brushing out of the net cup there's only a few large roots that then break up into small hairs.

The issue is that my girls have very little root strength and have all fallen over at the bottom and then grew back up, I just never noticed till now. The first grow I did the roots were all the way at the top of the net cup and made the plants sturdy. This time there is absolutely zero roots traveling to the top of the net cup.