MIMedGrower
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Timbo0716
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I seem to remember seeing carvings of it in rock slates first.
Kanzeon
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MIMedGrower
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It was. I found a better meme and edited it. You're old, but not senile yet!
what? Who is this? What was i talking about?
growsince79
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Good post. After talking to you and others, I've learned a lot. I've never used any kind of PM and didn't know regular promix and HP were so much different. Having only transplanted into it a few days ago, I already see I probably need to water every day instead of every other as I did in the cocoloco. I probably shouldn't have added any perlite to the HPCC.I mean I wasnt wrong. You can water it daily.you're right though I didn't mention obvious overwatering issues.
If you water properly a medium with a high % perlite will have plenty of oxygen. Overwatering issues occur when the plants roots lack oxygen. They degrade, die and rot. Attracting bugs. If like in coco and perlite, there is enough oxygen in your medium you dont get any overwatering issues. Its like how you can have a plants entire root system submerged in water, but it's fine as long as the water has sufficient oxygen available.
I have watered daily in veg, not letting it fully dry. Watering properly, I've never had any signs of overwatering.
That's why the perlite % is so high. Quoted in the article itself.
"If overwatering is a problem, the grower might consider a different container size or use a growing medium with a lower water holding capacity. Growing media with a lower water holding capacity often contain higher percentages of coarse materials like perlite, chunk coir or bark for increased drainage and porosity.
Perlite
Perlite is an inert material that can be used in different particle sizes. In the case of PRO-MIX HP, perlite increases the air porosity of the mix since it retains less water than peat moss. Also, it does not interact with nutrients and it is free of weeds and diseases because it is produced at high temperatures."
It's in there so you can handle the constant watering. As long as the surface dries out and you water correctly, you won't have a single overwatering issue.
Nobody was trying to troll or bash, just trying to learn.
BigCube
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Update:
Everything is going according to plans. I am seeing much more stretching and much further node spacing than I'm used to. Even though the light has been 10 to 12 inches away the entire time.
I'm thinking it may be the 5000k in the mix. Normally I run 3000k + red.
Starting to smell good when I open the tent. I guess when I defoliate I'll take a couple clones and revert them.
Everything is going according to plans. I am seeing much more stretching and much further node spacing than I'm used to. Even though the light has been 10 to 12 inches away the entire time.
I'm thinking it may be the 5000k in the mix. Normally I run 3000k + red.
Starting to smell good when I open the tent. I guess when I defoliate I'll take a couple clones and revert them.
SSgrower
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I just nursed a seedling I over nuted/watered & it curly leafed and I took it out of my tent to dry on paper towels under curly light 1 day then back into the tent 10ml of nute mixed water 7.7 Ph. It's not hard to mess up a plant if your not careful, just happens. I used the regular Pro-mix from Walmart not the HP so my mix is 80% peat 20% coco/perlite. Fixing to up pot them after pinch and recover time.
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I refrained from replying to keep from clogging up bigcubes thread but then i seen this post above and feel the need to correct it.
@MIMedGrower I never said to keep promix saturated, I said I keep "mine" saturated since promix is a soilless media. I work many 16 hr shifts and I water every other day. When water day lands on my 16 hr shift day, I am forced to water back to back days with no problems which happens a lot. I have never had an overwatering problem either with promix. I ran coco for yrs and the soiless promix i use holds no more water then the brand of coco(no perlite/very fine) i used. I am not a caregiver and grow huge plants, I have a small set up similar to big cubes that provides my wife and I our own meds and any leftovers are gifted out for free to a couple people that truly need it, so they dont have to pay blackmarket or dispos crazy prices.
Just wanted to clear them things up.
BigCube
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Tasty Buds
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I skipped from 1st page to last. Decent genrtics there, but you're gonna have to grow that out agsin to get a true reading on how it can preform.
You had some serious PH issues at the start. To get max, ya need healthy plants from start to finish.
I was hoping LED's would go away, but companies pumped too much $ into em.
Until I see something that has real potential, HPS has always done me great through all phases, besides cloning. T5's, or even small CFL daylight 5000k+
Not to step on any toes. I took some time off, now feel like a kud in a candy store
You had some serious PH issues at the start. To get max, ya need healthy plants from start to finish.
I was hoping LED's would go away, but companies pumped too much $ into em.
Until I see something that has real potential, HPS has always done me great through all phases, besides cloning. T5's, or even small CFL daylight 5000k+
Not to step on any toes. I took some time off, now feel like a kud in a candy store
BigCube
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Massive defoliation today.
Tasty Buds
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Can I give you a little advice? You could get an excellent harvest if you try. I've done this a few times. Just 1, or 2 tweeks could at least double the yield you'll get on that. When ya come to the last 3 weeks, get back to me, and I can give you my method to really pack on frost, and weight.
Uo to you.
Uo to you.
Tasty Buds
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What r ya laughin @ BIG CUBE
JimmyCreedog
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lol
That's pretty cryptic dude. Sounds like those spam calls I get 3x a day.
Defol looks awesome 'Cube. Lots of airflow now. Can't wait for the next update.
BTW.. I may steal your ziptie runoff drain thing.
Tasty Buds
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You got me. I'm the guy calling you 3x's a day.
Criptic lol.
I made a mistake with that post Cube!. It's gonna be a min before I know who is who.
I saw some of your past grows. You have some nice genetics there.
Question for ya. Once dry, are the larger sativa cola's dence?
BigCube
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Friday update, things are looking alright. Node spacing is a little further apart than I'm used to, the stretching on the edges is very noticable and I it is not packing on the bud as aggressive as I'm used to. We will have to wait and see how she turns out 
growsince79
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Great tip on that promix hp water every day. I used hpcc plus extra perlite. It's working awesome.Friday update, things are looking alright. Node spacing is a little further apart than I'm used to, the stretching on the edges is very noticable and I it is not packing on the bud as aggressive as I'm used to. We will have to wait and see how she turns out
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Have you ever tried the top snappimg method to keep the hieght down? Its where you pick a predetermimed height in your head, pinch the stem flat and bend the top portion in whichever direction you need it to grow. Those are beautiful plants btw, looks like they jumped your netting by alot though. This top snapping really doesnt hurt the plant alot at all. I use it quite often. It also builds a huge canopy. Just make sure the stem is flat all the way. Ive used pliers with padded jaws on stems i couldnt pinch. Limbs will get thick and support lots of weight. You can tape a limb back on if you break one. Just stick it together and wrap it with tape. I tore my last 2 plants in half down the middle tieing limbs down, theyre doing great. Try the snapping, that tent is getting short in a hurry. Again, beautiful plantsFriday update, things are looking alright. Node spacing is a little further apart than I'm used to, the stretching on the edges is very noticable and I it is not packing on the bud as aggressive as I'm used to. We will have to wait and see how she turns out
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