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Frankster

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lol. I’m so gentle with these things I dont even allow different plants leaves to touch. I treat every plant like it’s my baby. I don’t tend to spray hoses at babies.

Although it does sound funny. :-)
I'm actually thinking that the touching things helps. Keeps them aware and engaged into their environment. I think leaf edges are like eyeballs for plants. But I keep them just out of reach, then mix them up the next day, always keeping them guessing, and from reaching one direction too much, or another. I really do think keeping the plants partially engaged is helpful.

But keeping them apart makes actual sense too, because there going to be always extending out in every direction. I just think a little company is encouraging. Nobody want to be all alone. It promotes a balance in my eyes, but certainly needs to be monitored and maintained to keep inhibition from occurring.

It also helps create different shadowing of the plants, especially if you've got a well spread out lighting source, and good air flow. A perpetual setting.
Bottom line, leaf edges are a main sensory mechanism of the plant, and there's got to be a hormonal chemistry behind it, a mechanism that's engaged in this process, so stimulating it might be beneficial.
 
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I'm actually thinking that the touching things helps. Keeps them aware and engaged into their environment. I think leaf edges are like eyeballs for plants. But I keep them just out of reach, then mix them up the next day, always keeping them guessing, and from reaching one direction too much, or another. I really do think keeping the plants partially engaged is helpful.

But keeping them apart makes actual sense too, because there going to be always extending out in every direction. I just think a little company is encouraging. Nobody want to be all alone. It promotes a balance in my eyes, but certainly needs to be monitored and maintained to keep inhibition from occurring.

It also helps create different shadowing of the plants, especially if you've got a well spread out lighting source, and good air flow. A perpetual setting.
Bottom line, leaf edges are a main sensory mechanism of the plant, and there's got to be a hormonal chemistry behind it, a mechanism that's engaged in this process, so stimulating it might be beneficial.


I’m sure in the wild plants have many reasons to communicate with each other but in my grow room I want maximum light penetration (they get moved and rotated almost daily) and the least chance for pests and mold. Also like you said they can stretch out and reach higher potential
 
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I’m sure in the wild plants have many reasons to communicate with each other but in my grow room I want maximum light penetration (they get moved and rotated almost daily) and the least chance for pests and mold. Also like you said they can stretch out and reach higher potential
Yea, I have to admit, your 100% correct on this one, and I wasn't thinking about the buggy thing... It's always something to consider. But I guess where I'm at on this one is this. I'm always struggling for space, so If I mix them up like your doing, and even if I'm a little over stocked, or pushed together, it allows for better overall penetration of the lights.

But I do think that having them slightly touching each other tells them where their at, and where there not at, (where to grow) so the gaps get filled in correctly. I think it's an evolutionary process at play here, and I want to exploit that, if possible.
 
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Yea, I have to admit, your 100% correct on this one, and I wasn't thinking about the buggy thing... It's always something to consider. But I guess where I'm at on this one is this. I'm always struggling for space, so If I mix them up like your doing, and even if I'm a little over stocked, or pushed together, it allows for better overall penetration of the lights.

But I do think that having them slightly touching each other tells them where their at, and where there not at, (where to grow) so the gaps get filled in correctly. I think it's an evolutionary process at play here, and I want to exploit that, if possible.


nothing wrong with plants touching some. Like you said they are genetically made to. But I will say the more you stretch a properly lit space the worse the results. I stick to my system and plant count religiously. I can only add plants if I add my third light. Then I can add 2-3 more. Any more and all will suffer.
 
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Come on now.blane the beer hahaha..hows that honey beer coming along.

You got a nice harvest i see..very clean gear..
I'm still not sure about the honey in beer, don't get me wrong, its not a horrible taste, and it is well drinkable, but its like putting black current in your larger, if you get what I mean. lol Grow turned out well, but I might have another crack at the White Widow, as I think I could do better with it now I know what its about. That Franco's is a beast of a cola, you should grab a seed if you come across one, I'm definitely going to run another at a later date, don't want that one any bigger though, unless its outdoors. lol
 
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nothing wrong with plants touching some. Like you said they are genetically made to. But I will say the more you stretch a properly lit space the worse the results. I stick to my system and plant count religiously. I can only add plants if I add my third light. Then I can add 2-3 more. Any more and all will suffer.
Yea, I am the exact opposite, cramming as much I can into a confined space. I try and leave the flowering tent a little better organized, but I have a big rod in there right now pulling the sides out (ventilation is pulling) so they got more space to themselves. I think there's 9-10 small autos in that 2x4, so they will be much smaller than you plants, but hopefully, the numbers equal things out some. I kinda look at it from a critical density point of view. Only so much flower can bloom in a confined space, it really doesn't matter how thick, or how many shoots are holding it all up, in the end, it's about the canopy maintence, and the budding sites. I also think good penetration, is a big key in this regard, and maintaining that vertical growth.
 
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Morning tokers and growers, how are you all sunny Saturday morning. Down and not running at the minute due to upgrades being fitted in my room. The single biggest upgrade is moving over to LED light fittings, and after countless evenings pondering over different brands, quality of fittings and led's, I decided they're all the same, just put together by the brand name holder, all parts made in China by the same factory, and only one fitting had the heat loosing fins, so welcome to my new light, Viperspectra XS4000, the spec is online if you want to have a look. First impressions, seems well built, heavy, and seriously bright, you don't want to be looking at the pretty LED's to often, or you may wind up blind over time, they are bright, so I've ordered my self some shades, to go with my deck chair and sombrero hat. lol 😎 Went for a cheap set of Lumii glasses, a lot of folk seem to be getting on with them, so I should. Having a colour change this time in the room, would like to have had the time, and the skill to put some art into it, but just don't have the time, but one day. Strikes me that we have some talented artists in our world of growing and tokin, but its never shown to any one, I'm tired of silver deserts and arctic white walls, and appeal to the artier folk amongst us, strut your stuff, go colourfull, show us your art, your grow room needs you. lol I've not grown with LED's before, so I've gone sky blue this round, with the same colour on the bottom half as last time, as I think the blue will give me a good chance of picking out deffs a little bit sooner. No more orange pics, can't help but feel a little sad, but rest assured orange pic fans, if the LED is not up to the job, then the orange pics will return. lol Other than the new light, and paint job, I had to re-build the extraction side of things, as it was in the way of the new lights position as the new light is longer than the HID hood, all ways some thing. lol Most of the build is done, and I'm hoping to get a few hours on it later to run every thing in to see how it performs, and see if any thing needs tweeking, as they always do. 🙂 Chose my seeds for the next run, going with four plants this run, as I'm interested to see what sort of canopy I'll get, was going with three. 😉 Got another new strain to me, think it was a freebee with an order, can't remember. All three plants are about 90% dry, they'll expend that last ten in the bucket to cure. Anyway, lets have some pics. 🙂

First up is the Icarus cola, green side. lol
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Icurus blonde side. lol
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Franco's Lemon Cheese, returned around three gallons of dried bud. Its in a five gallon bucket, look at the length of the cola. lol
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White Widow, about a gallon and a half dry from this plant, apart from the cola's that you saw, there was not larf or pop corn. Had a crafty toke, a bit fell in my pipe while I was trimming. 🙂
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The Shishkaberry did nearly as well as the Franco's, but got clubbed by the Icurus bud. lol Still produced around two and half gallons. Some nice fruity colours in the bucket, had another trimming accident and a bud from this was also tested. 😁
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Had this arrive at the door, brown box, new light. Have to say, quick postage, well packed, double boxed, I'm impressed. 👍
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As Spring ends, and Summer moves in, the last of the Tulips bid farewell until next year, they're looking a bit rough, but they're still holding colour, even with the frost damage. 😡
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I'm sat looking over the spread, wondering if it's safe to plant out yet, or is there a last frost lurking in the near future, hope not, as I'm planning on planting my outdoor tommato plants this afternoon, I think its a good time, as we have a week of rain forecast, so this will save watering them in with tap water. Gelato Auto is still alive, still outdoors, and still only has seed leaves. lol this is last week, as I've not been to open the cold frames yet this morning, so I'll snap a pic while I'm down there, and post it next week, this is it at 15 days from pop, hoping it gets its self going now the frosts are past, even though there is a chance of a freak weather spell. 🤞
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And that is it people for this week, all updated, will the Auto produce a leaf or two, will we get a sharp frost, will the grow room get finished, will we all still be here, find out next week, 😁 Until then, keep tokin folks. 👍
 
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Max is my opponent/friend, we challenge each other to GrowiT! Helping each other when we can, as to his latest "Foxtailing" I am not qualified to help, @Aquaman will rescue.
 
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Morning tokers and growers, hope its warm and sunny where you are, we've had four days of wind and rain and a bit of hail. 😡 Looks like I'll have to hide the paint brushes again this weekend. lol Not had time to sow any seeds, hope to get them buried this afternoon, looking at a four plant grow this round, was going with three, which is all the light I could get out of the HPS, but the new light might just give me the boost I need to grow four, even though I built the space for three. Got all the room painting done, second coats applied, swept the extractor pipe, it was choka with dust and bits of leaf. Room is all rebilt now, had the new Viperspectra XS4000 running this week, just to see what it's about, stays cool in the space, even when ran on 100%, and at that point, it is bright. I like the dimmer, it will be handy for starting seedlings and cuttings. Light has been running all this week, no burn outs, no smells, so I'm fine with how it performs, but in relation to MH, it does not have the crystal blue spring colour that us old schoolers adore, so I expect the orange summerness is gone to, I'll have to see how we get on with this side of the LED scene, as I like the seasonal light change from MH Spring to HPS Summer, jury is out on that one. 😉 Anyway, lets have some pics. 🙂

First up, new paint job, bored with white, and it was on offer at the hardware store. lol You can see how bright this light is by the colour blue colour tone above and bellow the light.
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Light seems to have all the bases covered, nice arrangement of LED's, don't know if there's perfect placement for an LED cluster. Came with all the hanging wires, rachets, every thing except the screws to hang it to the ceiling.
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Not a fan of this, could be tidier, I realise its to take the wiring outside your room if you so choose, but still could have put a bit more thought into it, as these light are not cheap, and for that money, I want space age tech. I like the fins for heat lose a lot. 👍
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The hanging wires seem strong, but this is a heavy unit, and they do seem a bit weak, not that it would be a big deal if the light fell down, as my plants will break its fall, but could just do with out the experience if I could avoid it. 😁 I have a buddy who says he can make me some better brackets, when he gets time, don't hold your breath over seeing them in my life time though. lol The wire hangers seem a bit long, don't know if that's by design for heat loss, or whether its just how they are, but when I get into flower and raise the light, we'll see how hot it gets.
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Was looking at the amount of dust in my extractor fan, the fins were well coated with grime, makes you wonder where it all comes from, so out with the wife's tootbrush again, must make sure I remove all the fluff this time, nearly got caught, dog got the blame. 😁
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Got the cloche on the heat mat making moisture, just got to burry the seeds some time today, and we're good to go. 😎
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Seeds, a couple of these I've grown before, like the Super Lemon Haze and the White Widow, which I'm giving another run, as it didn't do as well as I expected, so it's going again. The Pure Kush is another strain I've not grown before, as is the Holy Punch, so two new ones for me. 😎😎
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And that is it for this week, I'll get the seeds in today, if not it will be the middle of the week before they're planted. Not had time to brew any beers, just don't seem to have the spare time at the minute, pardon the pun. lol But its always the same this time of year, Spring is a busy time for outdoor work. Nearly forgot the Gelato Auto, have to say it is trying, but the weather is against it, its not dead, but it's not moved either, I think with a bit of wall to wall sun, it will burst into life, we'll see, got a spare just in case. 😉 And that's me away, catch you all next week, until then, keep tokin folks. 👍
 
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Afternoon tokers and growers, hope your all well. 👍 Bit late with my update, had my second flu jab on Friday, yesterday, felt like death warmed up, felt better this morning, and had my first bong since Friday, and now starting to feel normal again, good old weed, but they say that if you have a reaction, that means it's working, so I must be bullet proof now then. 👍 So on with the update, got the seeds planted, think it was Sunday dinner (last week), so we're off the starting blocks for this run. 🙂 Right, led's run a lot colder than HID, a lot, so no warm room after lights out. Started the seedlings in the usual way, heat mat, humidity dome, and three of the seeds are up, but one is being elusive, this is no biggy, as every time I grow a Super Lemon Haze its the last to pop, so no reason to think any different this time. 🙂 Pictures never lie, so they say, so lets look at some. 🙂

Super Lemon Haze, not a lot to say really, except, hurry up and pop ya b*****d. Maybe next week. 😁
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Holy Punch, it's up, but you can see it's a bit chilly for it after its easy ride on the heat mat, it will work it out. 😁
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Pure Kush, its not fazed by the colder temps, seems to eat it up, good strain for some one living in a colder climate maybe?
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White Widow, not looking good, bit leggy, bit leany, hoping its not down to rubbish seeds, as this last run, the White Widow struggled too, but she's a trier, and I like that in a plant. 🙂
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The outdoor Gellato Auto is starting to move a little, took this pic this morning, day 28, if that matters any more, won't be a record holder for the fastest outdoor auto. lol But, if you compare its growth to the weed seeds that have popped in the same bucket, then its not so far off, will it produce, yeah I think so, eventually. 😁
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Was taken by the amount of flower on the Rosemary, seems like frost did it a bit of good, was going to take some cuttings from it to replace this aging specimen, think I'll leave it this year.
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This is my first week under LED's with any thing green that can die under them, so some learning to be done, mainly on the heat side in early veg, if you look at the three seedlings that are up, they look like they've been over fed, this is down to me not keeping an eye on temps, thought it would be ok while the lights were on, think this was a mistake, as I only had to worry about over heating with HID, and not the lower temps, lesson learnt. 😉 I don't think it will be a problem in flower, as the light will produce more heat when it's pushed a bit, but in early veg when seedlings don't want to much light, I will have to find a method keep the seedling warm until they're big enough to cope. 👍 Other than that, I'm running the lights at 25 inches, above seedling height, and things look like they will work out at that for the time being, find out next week I suppose, until then, just keep tokin folks. 👍
 
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