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ComfortablyNumb

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That if you have more then a couple plants these fabric pots suck ass. How do you guys deal with them. Every time I water they just leak out the sides everywhere and get water all over the floor in my tent.
You dont water them the same way you do others. Slow water from the top and make sure the whole pot is wet.
 
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They have a huge advantage to air exchange... the more suface area exposure to to air the better the gas exchange.

Plastic pots can heat up, don't breath near as well... where fabric breathe well and stay cool from evaporation.

Moldy? I mean if your pots are moldy you have an issue.... now if your seeing what you think is mild and is actually beneficial myco then I can understand the confusion.

Fabric are more costly and I don't feel they should be reused. That just part of the item. But that doesn't make them stupid by any means.
Fabric pots were 2 bucks. Nursery pots are 3.50. And the only difference I've noticed is the plastic pots are easier to move around. Plastic pots are just easier. Maybe outside is a different story.
 
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Fabric pots were 2 bucks. Nursery pots are 3.50. And the only difference I've noticed is the plastic pots are easier to move around. Plastic pots are just easier. Maybe outside is a different story.
It is, they are even worse outside. Between the sun and the wind, I couldn't keep up with the watering... in the ground they went. Personal preference I guess, but I'll never use them again, couldn't wrap my head around watering so much and as result they were dry and hating life.
 
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Yeah the are cheaper in the cost of a single grow buy since you dont reuse em the cost long run is alot more.

Definitely they impact watering g and that can be a good or bad thing depending in your circumstances.
 
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That if you have more then a couple plants these fabric pots suck ass. How do you guys deal with them. Every time I water they just leak out the sides everywhere and get water all over the floor in my tent.
I've got a bunch of fabric pots, so I use them sometimes, but I never noticed an increase in yield from them.

Get a wetting agent of some sort. Many soil materials, especially peat moss, becomes hydrophobic when dry, so water will pour out the side of your pot before the pot has been properly watered. Roots Organics has one called Rain, but I don't know if it works well or not — never used it.
 
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I've got a bunch of fabric pots, so I use them sometimes, but I never noticed an increase in yield from them.

Get a wetting agent of some sort. Many soil materials, especially peat moss, becomes hydrophobic when dry, so water will pour out the side of your pot before the pot has been properly watered. Roots Organics has one called Rain, but I don't know if it works well or not — never used it.
With my square plastic pots I just pout it in from the watering can and it blooms like a coffee pour over. And then it starts to quickly be drawn in. Fabric pots. More of a slow pour. Takes longer.
 
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They get dirty, have no advantages and are harder to clean. Plastic pot comes clean in seconds. Is dry in minutes. A fabric pot is a hassle. And a fabric pot can get moldy. It's the same reason a plate is a hard smooth object. And not a piece of cloth. Fabric is only good if you plan on throwing them out when you're done and it saves a few bucks. Even then.
This kind of cracks me up. There's huge advantages;

Less space; You can have a kazillion of them and pile them in a corner.
Cleaning; Get some soap out, or stick them in the nearest wash machine, dump some soap and bleach, click the on button
Cloth pots have the highest root aeration and oxygen transfer to the root zone, hands down. No pot barred.


Plainly stated, cloth pots grow faster, bigger, more healthy plants than any other container, period. In a smaller and more compact footprint.
 
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Yeah the are cheaper in the cost of a single grow buy since you dont reuse em the cost long run is alot more.

Definitely they impact watering g and that can be a good or bad thing depending in your circumstances.
Agreed, if you got a grow where your doing things, then walk away for a few days, hard pots might be a better solution, but if you've got a grow that your on, can water ever 24 or 12 hours, as needed, I think cloth are the better of the two.

Improved airflow IMO is a BIG advantage. I think if side by sides are done, and the pot sized is kept minimum, cloth pots are going to yield way bigger, overall. If they are treated properly.

Much of these gains can be simply made up by going to a larger (ridged) pot container. But volume for volume, cloth pots cannot be beat IMO. I've been growing bigger, healthier, more dense plants in far smaller footprints, than ever before with these things. There are advantages to that. Less humidity in the tent, for one.
 
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ComfortablyNumb

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This kind of cracks me up. There's huge advantages;

Less space; You can have a kazillion of them and pile them in a corner.
Cleaning; Get some soap out, or stick them in the nearest wash machine, dump some soap and bleach, click the on button
Cloth pots have the highest root aeration and oxygen transfer to the root zone, hands down. No pot barred.


Plainly stated, cloth pots grow faster, bigger, more healthy plants than any other container, period. In a smaller and more compact footprint.
I agree, but show us some numbers please. I'd love to have that study.
 
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I agree, but show us some numbers please. I'd love to have that study.
Yea, my guess is around 50% improved size, but have zero ideal what it is in reality. Would be interesting to do, but I think it needs to be repeated over and over again, in different conditions; to get a true idea.

Also, a 1, or 3, or 5, 7 they all respond so very differently. I bet you get a different efficiency from each size.
 
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With my square plastic pots I just pout it in from the watering can and it blooms like a coffee pour over. And then it starts to quickly be drawn in. Fabric pots. More of a slow pour. Takes longer.

Yea, my guess is around 50% improved size, but have zero ideal what it is in reality. Would be interesting to do, but I think it needs to be repeated over and over again, in different conditions; to get a true idea.

Also, a 1, or 3, or 5, 7 they all respond so very differently. I bet you get a different efficiency from each size.
When I tried them I used 15 gal... maybe overkill lol... but I if I do containers outside, I usually use the 17 gal tubs, so that's why I went so big... I think I'm just an in ground gal, I need the ladies to be self sufficient for a few days at a time because I camp and hike and have a family, so they just don't work for me... obviously every scenario is different.
 
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Yea, my guess is around 50% improved size, but have zero ideal what it is in reality. Would be interesting to do, but I think it needs to be repeated over and over again, in different conditions; to get a true idea.

Also, a 1, or 3, or 5, 7 they all respond so very differently. I bet you get a different efficiency from each size.
I’ve done #1,2,3 nursery pots and found the most efficient in my grows to be #1’d which save space and soil but take more work (daily) with 3’s being most efficient meaning I tend to plants every 3-4 days in prime flower and produce 2/3 dried zips off each plant with as many as 4/5 plants in a 2x4 tent.
 
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I’ve done #1,2,3 nursery pots and found the most efficient in my grows to be #1’d which save space and soil but take more work (daily) with 3’s being most efficient meaning I tend to plants every 3-4 days in prime flower and produce 2/3 dried zips off each plant with as many as 4/5 plants in a 2x4 tent.
my last grow i had 3 gallon nursery pots i had 6 or 7 plants averaged 4.5 oz of each were autos
 
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This kind of cracks me up. There's huge advantages;

Less space; You can have a kazillion of them and pile them in a corner.
Cleaning; Get some soap out, or stick them in the nearest wash machine, dump some soap and bleach, click the on button
Cloth pots have the highest root aeration and oxygen transfer to the root zone, hands down. No pot barred.


Plainly stated, cloth pots grow faster, bigger, more healthy plants than any other container, period. In a smaller and more compact footprint.
But they don't. Which is why my yield with nursery parts is in no way diminished. And square pots can be placed closer than rounds ones. If fabric pots yielded more they would have. It's also the reason 100% of people I know with large grows use plastic. Because labor hours. Cleaning plastic pots is literally as easy as spraying them with water for a few moments. Done. Ready to use. They stack neatly. If you're doing hundreds or thousands you're using plastic pots. If fabric pots gave me an advantage I would use them.
 
Ponky

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ok if throwing a piece of fabric in a washing machine with detergent and bleach is so much harder the spraying with a garden hose how do you guys do laundry ?
Well I don't wash sphagnum moss into my machine.. and I don't wash 25 loads of laundry in a day. And spraying a pressure washer or hose for a few seconds. Is still several orders of magnitude faster. And I don't do laundry. I have a wife. Cuz laundry sucks.
 
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Well I don't wash sphagnum moss into my machine.. and I don't wash 25 loads of laundry in a day. And spraying a pressure washer or hose for a few seconds. Is still several orders of magnitude faster. And I don't do laundry. I have a wife. Cuz laundry sucks.
My wife does them for me, bless her heart. She even sews them up after I transplant. I quit using them for a while cause they do suck. But gnats crawling in the bottom holes suck even more.
 
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