Zen’s SCROG Winter 2022 to 2023

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Topper Flower Day 71:

Final harvest top down.

TOD: 12 noon April 1st 2023

You will be smoked.

 

[Clyde4210]

Hell yeah.

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Hell yeah.

Thanks man. Took a little longer than expected.

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Clones Veg Day 25:

Moving to the flower tent. Just finished cleaning HVAC and top of light. Tent was finished earlier.

Need to LST and remove some green. One at a time, liking the clips, on to the next.

After the third it’s feeding time. SCROG later.

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Ran into a problem...plan was for three in a SCROG. Not looking good...

Maybe SCROG two and let one grow out under the 450w? Tent is still pretty clean but not light proof. Zippers leak but I use green lights in the grow room so maybe. The main tent is taped for flowering.

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Needed to make a few changes.
SCROG table 2.0:

1. Used shower curtain rings to hold net.

Liked the ones that lock closed.

2. Offset the legs so they can fold.

3. Couplings let me add extensions.

5. None of it is glued. It’s held together by friction and tension on the net.

Since all the parts are interchangeable I can use them to make a double stack or two separate SCROG for each tent.

I want to make at least one platform for the top “+” so I can attach a place for small plants. Like lettuce.

 

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@Stonemason7767

Thanks!

Just checked the new stuff...nice...smell is amazing! The refrigerator has me sold if it’s repeatable.

I’ve dried 3 different ways with this top down harvest. Each one building off the last. It’s not a perfect test, for so many reasons, but it is enough for my purposes.

A Hygrometer is in each bag or jar and jars have one or two RH 58% packs each.

1. Trimmed of fan leaves but left on stems. Air dry for a week in shower rack trying to keep at 60/60. Then move to paper bag for 24-48 hours in refrigerator. Once it hit RH 56% right away I Jared it. But it took another week of burping before stabilizing at RH 62%. Just removed from stem with buds a little crisp but sticky soft inside Monday. Ran out of room so had to final harvest. Harvested March 22, 13 days ago.

2. Second harvest 1 week after first. These went straight to paper bag and refrigerator. Air on counter in morning and night for a while then back into fridge. After two days humidity in bags staying in 60-70%. Then high 50’s following day. After a week needed the fridge for the next crop. Moved to jars. Over night it goes back to 80-99%. Open jars at least twice a day with fan blowing. Smell is getting better, less green. Waiting to hit 68% without overnight spike.

3. Last harvest went straight to paper bags. Air 2 or 3 times a day on counter in front of fan then back in fridge. Fan blows across open bag, not into bag. Then back on fridge. Two out of three bags hit 70’s but one stays in 90’? This happened last time too. DKW? Will keep these in the refrigerator at least another week. We’ll see what wifey says about that.

If nothing else it’s keeping things much slower and steady. Even the shower method needed help. But if this turns out better than the first one I’ll keep doing it.

Need more jars.

How’s yours coming?

 

[Stonemason7767]

@Stonemason7767

Thanks!

Just checked the new stuff...nice...smell is amazing! The refrigerator has me sold if it’s repeatable.

I’ve dried 3 different ways with this top down harvest. Each one building off the last. It’s not a perfect test, for so many reasons, but it is enough for my purposes.

A Hygrometer is in each bag or jar and jars have one or two RH 58% packs each.

1. Trimmed of fan leaves but left on stems. Air dry for a week in shower rack trying to keep at 60/60. Then move to paper bag for 24-48 hours in refrigerator. Once it hit RH 56% right away I Jared it. But it took another week of burping before stabilizing at RH 62%. Just removed from stem with buds a little crisp but sticky soft inside Monday. Ran out of room so had to final harvest. Harvested March 22, 13 days ago.

2. Second harvest 1 week after first. These went straight to paper bag and refrigerator. Air on counter in morning and night for a while then back into fridge. After two days humidity in bags staying in 60-70%. Then high 50’s following day. After a week needed the fridge for the next crop. Moved to jars. Over night it goes back to 80-99%. Open jars at least twice a day with fan blowing. Smell is getting better, less green. Waiting to hit 68% without overnight spike.

3. Last harvest went straight to paper bags. Air 2 or 3 times a day on counter in front of fan then back in fridge. Fan blows across open bag, not into bag. Then back on fridge. Two out of three bags hit 70’s but one stays in 90’? This happened last time too. DKW? Will keep these in the refrigerator at least another week. We’ll see what wifey says about that.

If nothing else it’s keeping things much slower and steady. Even the shower method needed help. But if this turns out better than the first one I’ll keep doing it.

Need more jars.

How’s yours coming?

Good it took 13 days. Got rid of paper bags and added tiny dehumidifier.i Should have got a thermoelectric whine cooler.no compresser makes for no humidity swings i guese.but it's working.

 

[Stonemason7767]

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[Zen_Seeker]

Just did a dry weight on the first harvest.

It’s the jar in the front. 150g and that’s not including two days of sampling.

I don’t do wet weight but trying to get each bag even worked out to 150g each bag. Don’t recall what the others were wet. But the two other jars should be 150g dry together.

I’m going to guesstimate for a total of 450g dry. Which should be very close.

Looking forward to testing the last two harvests. Want to see if the different refrigerator methods make a difference as well as making things simpler.

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Good it took 13 days. Got rid of paper bags and added tiny dehumidifier.i Should have got a thermoelectric whine cooler.no compresser makes for no humidity swings i guese.but it's working.

How long before a reasonable sample?

 

[Mikedin]

Needed to make a few changes.
SCROG table 2.0:

1. Used shower curtain rings to hold net.
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Liked the ones that lock closed.
View attachment 1347193

2. Offset the legs so they can fold.
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3. Couplings let me add extensions.
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5. None of it is glued. It’s held together by friction and tension on the net.

Since all the parts are interchangeable I can use them to make a double stack or two separate SCROG for each tent.

I want to make at least one platform for the top “+” so I can attach a place for small plants. Like lettuce.

Damnit I was just thinking how to build a 2x4 scrog for a single plant and now I know haha, hardware store here I come lol

 

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Damnit I was just thinking how to build a 2x4 scrog for a single plant and now I know haha, hardware store here I come lol

Don’t get the real hard plastic rings. You want ones that won’t snap under strain.

 

[Mikedin]

Don’t get the real hard plastic rings. You want ones that won’t snap under strain.

I’ll have to upgrade the rings. But just got home haha

They only had 8 tee’s though so I had to improvise with a threaded tee for 4 I think I’ll make those the legs and I can make changeable leg leg the I have some ideas though so looking at it now for a single post upper riser instead of dual in either side, 3/4” should hold a good bud load without issue and be stable I’m focusing on level 1 today then see what I need to finish the 2nd level

I’m also making mine about 40”x 20” for a single plant along the back wall of the 4x4 (Frostette) doing a semi-mainline method tied with LST on the lower branching once. She hits the 5 gal, she’s in a 1/2 gal atm lol

 

[Zen_Seeker]

I use + (plus shape) from the water section so I can double stack.

I didn’t list parts or measurements as no one seemed interested. Sorry.

I use 3/4 for strength as I hang things all the time or put trimmers in the holes to hold them.

Each leg gets one cap for foot, one coupling in case of extra length, and one + for connecting the leg and optional second table.

I don’t glue as it holds itself together, for now.

Just offset one set of legs or it won’t fold together flat.

Here it is at US store;

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Charlotte-Pipe-3-4-in-PVC-Schedule-40-S-x-S-x-S-x-S-Cross-PVC024100600HD/203812455

 

[Mikedin]

I use + (plus shape) from the water section so I can double stack.

View attachment 1347748

I didn’t list parts or measurements as no one seemed interested. Sorry.

I use 3/4 for strength as I hang things all the time or put trimmers in the holes to hold them.

Each leg gets one cap for foot, one coupling in case of extra length, and one + for connecting the leg and optional second table.

I don’t glue as it holds itself together, for now.

Just offset one set of legs or it won’t fold together flat.

Here it is at US store;

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Charlotte-Pipe-3-4-in-PVC-Schedule-40-S-x-S-x-S-x-S-Cross-PVC024100600HD/203812455

Couldn’t get any 4 ways so I’m improvising, but its going awesome will put the full build on my grow log bottom rack is done doing. The top now then just gotta put on legs and top adapters and the net

 

[Mikedin]

Just waiting on net tomorrow and I’ll put that together then I just gotta wait to cut the legs when I have a good height

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Just waiting on net tomorrow and I’ll put that together then I just gotta wait to cut the legs when I have a good height

Cool.

My frame is approximately 2’10” square to fit in a 3x3 space.

The offset legs also allow my 6” booster fan clearance at the bottom right of the door for the leg.

DIY is all about necessity. Mod away my friend.

Just post the final product so we can go ooow and aaaw. Seeing what you did.

 

[Mikedin]

Cool.

My frame is approximately 2’10” square to fit in a 3x3 space.

The offset legs also allow my 6” booster fan clearance at the bottom right of the door for the leg.

DIY is all about necessity. Mod away my friend.

Just post the final product so we can go ooow and aaaw. Seeing what you did.

Already up on my topic haha, will adjust more as needed but wanted to make a nice tabletop scrog mine gives me a few inches clearance on each side I made it about 43 1/2” so I’ll have 2-3 inches on each side of the table but I liked it because I can access the full front of the plant and pot for top dressing, the plants that will be in front of it will just be in pots I can move around

Also have a few other ideas I’m mulling around lol

 

[Zen_Seeker]

Clones have been split up as they are to big after LST to fit back into the tent together.

So now we have the twins in SCROG and a solo on the other tent. SCROG free.


Clones Veg Day 28.

The twins:

Let’s give them until next feeding Saturday to come up and then get to tucking.

Here is the solo:

Drinking much faster than the twins. Is it because of the shorter wider pot? Might have to feed this one Friday.