1979 Skunk reversal breeding project dig

[Jmaes Mabley]

A guy on another forum, has the 79 Skunk, at 77 days, and harvested it.. 8 of them.
ZERO SKUNK. They are really nice looking, and smelling plants, but, isnt Skunk.
Its Fruity.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

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I just popped my one and only bean labeled "Mexi skunk breedstock" that ive carried around with me fridge to fridge for several years.


Hoping and praying for a male. The seed is supposed to be a cross made with afghani land race pollen, over the mexican fire hair sativa land race. In other words, a recreation of the very first skunk f1 cross back in the late 70s. A commercial grower friend of mine back in KC did the cross, and i ended up with a single lone bean.

I have a lineage i call the peaceblaster. Is half columbian land race, and It's a several generations of sativa dominant F1 as it sits currently. I have 4 phenos going right now. Most the plants have expressed largely oldschool skunk. Earthy, musty, savory, skunky profiles. No sweet, no citrus, no fruit. Seed mother was all eucalyptus and menthol smoothness.


I would absolutely LOVE to be able to hit a bottom branch of all of my peaceblaster phenos this fall with some "original skunk" pollen so fingers crossed its a male. If it's a male ill be cutting it up into clones to bring into a little 2x2 tent with a t5 and a hepa exhaust only no intake. And ill be preserving as much pollen as i can in the deep freeze. Im stoked that seed even popped so easy, its approaching 10 years old now. If it's female, a clone will be kept around as a mother til i can do something with it worthwhile.

Although this may look like it would be some sweet, fruity, dainty thing... i assure you, it is not lmao. THey all seem to skunk out on ya through flower so far. Although one smelled like straight up beef ramen bouillon.

Second photo from a friend running one through a super soil mix atm. Says its straight pungent, musty, and all skunked up. Thats almost verbatim quote.

Wasnt an intentional skunk, but thats where it landed after turning it into a total mutt after several generations of F1


Anyhoo, if that mexi-skunk is a male and i get some pollen preserved, wanna be on the list? As long as pollen is sent during winter, and goes straight back to the freezer, itll usually keep for years.

 

[Infusd]

A guy on another forum, has the 79 Skunk, at 77 days, and harvested it.. 8 of them.
ZERO SKUNK. They are really nice looking, and smelling plants, but, isnt Skunk.
Its Fruity.

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That's disappointing but not surprising. Do you know if that was the '79 from Katsu or from Sunshine State Seed Co.?

 

[Jmaes Mabley]

That's disappointing but not surprising. Do you know if that was the '79 from Katsu or from Sunshine State Seed Co.?

Katsu.

 

[Infusd]

Now its been another 3.5 months, and NOTHING. Since January 12th!!!!

Too busy on IG with all the big breeders?

I'll never understand how people can find this long lost strain and then immediately cross it with everything and itself. Isn't that how it got lost in the first place?

 

[Infusd]

Here’s momma skunk and some previous crosses just incase you guys didn’t catch the first round.
Momma 1979
Zoinks - Scoobs x
Stage 5 - wedding crasher x
New Sour - Chem 91 x
Melting Point - SSD x
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"Also just to clarify, the 79 Florida skunk shouldn’t be confused with this LD skunk 79’… This is the best skunk pheno around currently. I have no doubt there’s more out there just held by people who don’t go online."

That's a quote from another forum, this same guy posted it with these same photos.

Except the exact same "momma skunk" photo this person posted here and on IC just so happens to be the same photo of the '79 FL Heirloom Skunk that Katsu got from FL and created S1 seeds.

No updates at all, just posted the same (stolen?) photos, and instantly crossed this long lost skunk with tons of strains. Not only watering down and possibly losing the long lost genetics that people have been searching 20+ years for, but switched the name to LD Skunk.

I'm not buying this story one bit.

 

[Infusd]

Leadville Diesel

So they're his photos, but first it was a Leadville Diesel from the 80s & 90s, now all of a sudden its a long lost RKS from '79.

 

[Beazy]

Lotta shady characters lookin to make a buck unfortunately

 

[Hopefull Stoner]

Hey guys… Just setting up the breeding tent and getting ready to do an S1 run and a few other fem skunk crosses. 4x8 Gorilla Tent with Optic LED 650s lights… reversing 1979 momma skunk again that has taken the industry by storm since I found her hiding in plain site. Traded my whole library for this girl years ago but that’s a story for later on when people patch back together the history.
I’ll be making S1’s and crosses.
1979 x 1979 - S1
G13Skunk (reefercut) x 1979
1981 Florida x 1979
SS Sour x 1979
Ghost OG x 1979
Biscotti x 1979
G6 x 1979
Forum x 1979
Bubba x 1979
Seth Rogan “Pancakes” x 1979
Bloomington HB x 1979
GG4 x 1979
I-95 x 1979
Kosher Dawg x 1979

Which bubba is that? Do u have photos of the skunk to show its structure and flowers near the end? Thx.

I saw the g13skunk reefer, I got g13 haze beans in the vault along with a few of the Ndnguy love from back in the day.

So, do u need a tent sniffer lol no not like Brandon I mean Bidumb/Bidim. I think I just created 2new spellings for him.

 

[Hopefull Stoner]

Leadville Diesel

So they're his photos, but first it was a Leadville Diesel from the 80s & 90s, now all of a sudden its a long lost RKS from '79.

Can u show that post of LD and I didn’t see him say RKS but rather 79 skunk which is why I came here.

Fuk I hated undone threads right from the start. Didn’t expect this bs in 24’

I got back from usmc in 82’ hooked up with a legit queen pin who I Danced with in our club.
Fast forward = no I didn’t ask for any of their stuff as I was still weed.
Fast forward her dad sold weed. Yes, skunk from west Va. I bought it for 135/zip. It was delicious and sold at 12/g.
Found bag seed and the one they flourished was exact duplicate to the HT cover photo. Folks thought I was lying and it really was my plant. Nobody could tell the difference. 400 hps start to finish. That light ballast was stolen. It would run cool enough to keep ur palm on the ballast. That’s okay there circle ️ spot was canceled and to the Fringe they are

Dude just called it skunk and it would stink up the place. Yet, it was. It road kill skunk period

 

[Infusd]

Click that link where it says Leadville Diesel in green, that's the link for it. It's the same photos he posted in this thread.

Right on, very cool story! We always just called it skunk too, but "roadkill" is a good description since it smelled like a dead skunk that was rotting away in the sun.

 

[Beazy]

Yep always just skunk bud in my area in MI !!

 

[Beazy]

There was a year one winter around the Superbowl that this brick weed showed up and it was theee MOST COMPRESSED bricks I’d ever seen. Bunch of seeds ALL CRUSHED of course. An Oz was like the corner of a sandwich baggie and you had to have scale or nobody was even lookin at it thought you were tryin to rob em shit was brown as brown gets but some of the skunkiest shit ever !!! I looked and looked through PILES of it for a good seed or two with no luck

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Too busy on IG with all the big breeders?

I'll never understand how people can find this long lost strain and then immediately cross it with everything and itself. Isn't that how it got lost in the first place?

you can do all of that and still keep clones around. Ive grown lots of beans that were supposed to be one of the original skunks but havent really been convinced by any of them yet. Ive grown lots of generational F1 mutts that at least on my own observations seem to fit the descriptions of those old skunks a lot more then any "skunks" ive run in this day and age. Those original 70s skunks were all F1s for the most part too. There is no one original skunk. It was a dual land race f1 which as many know, creates a damn near endless variation of phenotypes to choose from. (as far as ive always understood it those skunks were the first true mutts anyway. Very well could be wrong).

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

There was a year one winter around the Superbowl that this brick weed showed up and it was theee MOST COMPRESSED bricks I’d ever seen. Bunch of seeds ALL CRUSHED of course. An Oz was like the corner of a sandwich baggie and you had to have scale or nobody was even lookin at it thought you were tryin to rob em shit was brown as brown gets but some of the skunkiest shit ever !!! I looked and looked through PILES of it for a good seed or two with no luck

the mexi red hair that made my "skunk breed stock" with afghani pollen apparently cam efrom some brown flat brick with a few surviv ing seeds grown for the hell of it. Heavy sativas, fire read hair that never pulled back in. Im pretty sure it was just assumed to be the mexi fire hair lineage though. But i mean, seems likely in my head anyway. Cal;yxes stayed small and stacked unless pollenate, but then made pretty damn huge seeds. I had the columbian land race for a while. Very similar to the mexi red hair, but gets a lot bigger and wider.


Sorry for double post

 

[Beazy]

Man if your stock is ANYTHING like this super compressed brown I’m talkin bout you are a lucky man

 

[Beazy]

But also like you said ENDLESS phenotypes !!!

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Man if your stock is ANYTHING like this super compressed brown I’m talkin bout you are a lucky man

it wasnt mine, the seed for those were grown by a coimmercial friend of mine in kansas city. she had the afghani land race from seedsman too, so she hit a female fire hair with the afghani land race pollen.

those brick beans made tall skinny plants that didnt branch out a whole lot, one long main cola covered in red firey hairs that only pulled in and swelled if pollenated, made HUGE beans when it did though.

As far as i understand it, the endlessly drifting hybrid phenos this created WAS the first true skunk lmao. You pick your lady and run from clones. Or you breed with it lol. Im not pontificating here though, im totally open to better information then my own lol. Her logic, was that the best way to find those original skunks, was to recreate the original F1 and hunt the phenos herself plant by plant. Couldnt tell ya how it went though, i have since lost contact info and she doesnt seem to be on social media by her real name.

The further from inbreeding you get, imho, the more vigorous the plants get, the smarter the plants get, and the skunkier the plants get.

 

[Infusd]

you can do all of that and still keep clones around. Ive grown lots of beans that were supposed to be one of the original skunks but havent really been convinced by any of them yet. Ive grown lots of generational F1 mutts that at least on my own observations seem to fit the descriptions of those old skunks a lot more then any "skunks" ive run in this day and age. Those original 70s skunks were all F1s for the most part too. There is no one original skunk. It was a dual land race f1 which as many know, create a damn near endless variation of phenotypes to choose from. (as far as ive always understood it those skunks were the first true mutts anyway. Very well could be wrong)

Yeah I get keeping the clone around and making some crosses, but the whole world is searching for these genetics specifically. Just seems like keeping that clone only line the same would be most important, especially with what we know now about Thiols/VSCs/CSCs. They're different for every phenotype, so you could be inadvertently changing those genetics and losing those characteristics. Everybody has been looking for skunk, not a skunk x cookies cross. Idk that's just how I'm looking at it anyways.

I agree that the first skunks were the best and mostly f1s. My first searching for skunk was asking everybody I know for old skunk seeds, because I've seen it grown from seed and it absolutely reeked.

I know of at least 3 different skunk varieties so I agree that it's not just one, but they could be related somewhere down the line.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Yeah I get keeping the clone around and making some crosses, but the whole world is searching for these genetics specifically. Just seems like keeping that clone only line the same would be most important, especially with what we know now about Thiols/VSCs/CSCs. They're different for every phenotype, so you could be inadvertently changing those genetics and losing those characteristics. Everybody has been looking for skunk, not a skunk x cookies cross. Idk that's just how I'm looking at it anyways.

I agree that the first skunks were the best and mostly f1s. My first searching for skunk was asking everybody I know for old skunk seeds, because I've seen it grown from seed and it absolutely reeked.

I know of at least 3 different skunk varieties so I agree that it's not just one, but they could be related somewhere down the line.

Im sorry, the skunk discussion is one of my favorites now a days.

you betchur britches if i get some kind of true "omgwtf" caliber skunk plant, that clone is going to stick around for a very long time. And it will be given to anyone who wants it for free lmao. So will any seed i make from it. Pollen too etc, should i be able to create some worth preserving.

My peaceblasters in veg out there already smell from a bout 10 feet away, in veg, like a skunk the next road over got a dog or something lmao. Musty raunchiness. Its the best kinda stink there is. If i brush a stem or the leaf margins the smell is on my skin for a bit. It gets on my clothes lmao. My other plants smell good so far. But mostly just like vegging cannabis plants. But thats not i lineage i ever expected to skunk out. It just kinda did at the most recent generation in smell taste and appearance all tbh. I dont consider it a skunk. Personally, but it kinda sorta is for some reason or another. But i did cross a multi generational F1 plant with the columbian land race. I can def see how i landed at skunky plants. And it does have the afghani land race a couple gens back too actually.

I really do think that the further you get away from generational inbreeding with a diverse genetic background, the skunkier the plants get. At one end of the cannabis genetic spectrum you have homogenous land races, and at the other, you have skunks.... or something like that