Harvested my first grow... I found a seed!!!

[AZreefer]

I'm guessing you do not have any male flowers showing on yours huh? So does that mean they didn't actually hermie? I'm not sure what to blame so I'm not really sure what to do to be better in my next grow. What you think brought your seeds in?

 

[Organic13]

I grew up with seed filled bags. Kicking myself in the ass now for not saving them because genetics for outdoors has been completely trashed. 25-30 years ago, I stuck some clones on some random property and only went back once in 4 months. Returning to a plant that was healthy and ready to be harvested. That could NEVER happen now, in my area, with the genetics we are offered currently.

Don't use a grinder. You'll catch all the seeds. No one that smokes likes seeds though.

 

[ArtfulCodger]

There really should be warnings that seeds can happen with the feminized seeds we purchase don't you think?

The seeds you find will probably be female, assuming there are no male plants nearby. I wouldn't use them in a run you care about, because at least one of their parents has already demonstrated a tendency to herm. That said, some famous strains have come from bag seed and herms, so your mileage may vary.

I don't think a warning would be a bad idea, but it would be a little like bike manufacturers warning new buyers not to have bike accidents. Herms (and therefore, seeds) are a constant concern when you grow cannabis. I'm a mod on another grower community that focuses on helping new growers. We see a lot of herms and seeds in the early going for new growers. Genetics plays a role, but in the majority of cases, it's plant stress. Cannabis has an intersex tendency built into its DNA. Some genetics manifest it more than others, but it's always there. Feminized seeds don't/can't remove it. These plants want one thing...to procreate. If they think they're in trouble, life will often find a way.

For new growers, steps that will minimize the likelihood of herms and seeds include:

1. Genetics that are not known to herm, from quality breeders.
2. Avoiding temperature or humidity extremes, and big swings.
3. Avoiding extremes and interruptions in light, feeding, and watering.
4. Inspecting plants at least weekly for pollen sacs and nanners (and bugs and disease).
5. Checking for light leaks, especially in flower. This one is a little controversial, but I've seen a lot of new growers get herms and then realize they had a light source in their tent...status LEDs on fans and power strips, glowing coils from heaters, intake vents that aren't baffled, etc.
6. Tent cleanliness. Standing water and dirt/mess/trash are vectors for bugs, and bugs cause plant stress.

I'm not trying to piss you off, I promise.

 

[AZreefer]

The seeds you find will probably be female, assuming there are no male plants nearby. I wouldn't use them in a run you care about, because at least one of their parents has already demonstrated a tendency to herm. That said, some famous strains have come from bag seed and herms, so your mileage may vary.

I don't think a warning would be a bad idea, but it would be a little like bike manufacturers warning new buyers not to have bike accidents. Herms (and therefore, seeds) are a constant concern when you grow cannabis. I'm a mod on another grower community that focuses on helping new growers. We see a lot of herms and seeds in the early going for new growers. Genetics plays a role, but in the majority of cases, it's plant stress. Cannabis has an intersex tendency built into its DNA. Some genetics manifest it more than others, but it's always there. Feminized seeds don't/can't remove it. These plants want one thing...to procreate. If they think they're in trouble, life will often find a way.

For new growers, steps that will minimize the likelihood of herms and seeds include:

1. Genetics that are not known to herm, from quality breeders.
2. Avoiding temperature or humidity extremes, and big swings.
3. Avoiding extremes and interruptions in light, feeding, and watering.
4. Inspecting plants at least weekly for pollen sacs and nanners (and bugs and disease).
5. Checking for light leaks, especially in flower. This one is a little controversial, but I've seen a lot of new growers get herms and then realize they had a light source in their tent...status LEDs on fans and power strips, glowing coils from heaters, intake vents that aren't baffled, etc.
6. Tent cleanliness. Standing water and dirt/mess/trash are vectors for bugs, and bugs cause plant stress.

I'm not trying to piss you off, I promise.

That's all beneficial info I think! So my pitfall could have been a watering snafu, temp swing or light leak. Thank you sir!

 

[TheDankest]

When harvesting my last grow, I found about 6 seeds through the entire harvest. Turns out they grew a few nanners that I couldn't see and pollinated themselves. Buds are still fire. There's 1,000 different variables at play throughout your grow that could cause your plants to produce seeds, and considering this is your first grow, it's fair to say it was likely caused by one of those 1,000 variables throughout the grow and not the seed bank you bought the seeds from. Keep plant stress to a minimum and avoid any light leaks during dark hours. Temps that are too high or too low and lights that are too bright can also cause hermies/nanners. More factors that can cause this are nutrient deficiencies, nutrient burn, root rot, issues with pH. The plants could even produce nanners as a last ditch effort to survive if not harvested on time.

I can tell you're quite disappointed, but from looking at your photos you seem to have had a pretty successful first grow in my eyes, seeds or not. Keep at it and your buds can only get better over time

 

[Deadstill]

OMG! I am NOT very happy right now! I am not sure which plant it came from but I have a seed. I am concerned as all I have pruned so far are a few small stems with small buds. The rest are still drying.

So are all my plants ruined? These are all suppose to be female seeds. I have never seen any sign of seeds in the growth process.... but honestly was not looking or concerned since they were all female.

If one plant seeds then they all seed right?

I still have a few days before I start to trim for jars.... I really hope they are not all ruined.
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I thought I had tasted a seed when I was trying this. Now I know I did with this find. No, it's not smoke worthy but I am out and wanted to try this. LOL. Still really wet, even the small stems I cut from the main to dry faster. 1st hit good, rest not so much... even the tiny bottom buds pack a punch so I am hopeful for the larger, fully developed buds. But I have to say... I do not care how good it might get, seeds ruin this for me. I spent a hell of a lot of money on tent, seeds, nutrients, electricity to have SEEDS!!!!!!!

Once I find which plant this came from I will be filing a complaint with the seed company. Sad thing is, I just ordered more seeds from them

I guess on the positive, If I have seeds, I do not have to spend money on that for a while.

I know I haven't said it before, and you've obviously been here for a while but, Howdy, and Welcome to the Farm!

Sorry to hear your struggles! Don't lose hope, though. Cannabis pollen grains are tiny and can travel quite the distance. Even if you did everything right, all it takes is a single grain of pollen to create a seed. Cannabis pollen grains can travel up to and over a MILE away (and several more, if conditions are correct) and even if you run a completely sealed grow room with carbon filters and everything, it's still possible for a grain or two to slip in. This is especially concerning if you have other growers in your vicinity who maybe don't know what they're doing or maybe even an industrial hemp farm nearby that grows male and female plants. Could be a lot of these factors to consider.

That being said, I would not fret over 1 seed even if it did happen to pop out of the first bud you tried. The fact that it was only one seed is a good sign actually, because if it had been exposed to serious pollen, there would be a LOT more. Usually.

Also, as others have stated, a lot of things can cause a plant from feminized seed to hermaphrodite. Simple, seemingly unrelated mistakes could in fact cause this. A light leak into your grow space during lights out, other environmental stressors, etc.

Growing sensimilla is not easy and not always perfect. Keep in mind you're working against nature. The plant's #1 concern is species survival, and they will try to reproduce as hard as they can, including "herming" as a last ditch effort to reproduce.

I don't know anything about you or your grow technique or experience, but growing quality sensimilla is definitely a learning experience that usually takes years to master and even masters get humbled from time to time. Again, don't lose hope and don't necessarily blame the genetics. Take it as a chance to improve.

Let us know if you find any more seeds, but I'm hoping ya only got that one!

 

[Blastfact]

I came,,, I read senseless drama,,, I leave.

 

[orggrwr]

Seeds happen, not a big deal.

 

[Jimmie]

How many shirts and car seats were ruined back in the day from seeds? I kinda like the smell of them burning, reminds me of being young.

 

[orggrwr]

Case in point. Checking my greenhouse plants this morning and found male parts on 1 plant. Think I got most before they opened up but 1 was spilling pollen all over the place and a couple were just the pollen sacks that don't need to open up. So yeah, I'll probably have a few seeds in this harvest. Not a big deal.

Most were tucked underneath buds so they can be very hard to find. Especially when you're getting old and the eyes are not what they used to be

 

[Phyto]

I really hope they are not all ruined.

They are absolutely all ruined, you should package the trimmed buds up and send them to me immediately for proper disposal!!(LOL) No really, it'll be fine, the odd seed here and there doesn't mean a thing as far as yield/potency is concerned. You might have had a nanner or two, no big deal. Not sure why everybody flips out over a few seeds. you'd of been lost in the early 70's when ALL weed was seeded, heavily!

 

[Bullmark69]

The best I’ve ever grown was a clone that produced about 9 seeds in the entire plant (6oz dried buds).
I’ve learned that these are called S1 seeds and so far the ones I’ve grown have been just as good as the original. Not only that, but my latest totally finished up about 2 weeks earlier than the others.
So don’t get too upset…..yet. If your plant got pollinated heavily, u may have seedy buds. But there’s a good chance you’ll only have a few random beans here and there.

 

[WickedMichelle]

Or maybe a few more, but I don't think you have an entire tent full of seeds.

Keep us updated.

I found more.....

5 from the purple, 1 from the OG Kush so far. They have been in jars about 2 days. I am spreading the contents of the jar on a try every other day as the buds are really sticky and ball together. I like to spread them out and get air to all sides of the buds. During this process is where I found the seeds. I yielded 14oz total between the 4 plants. So 7 total seeds so far is not bad. It does not look like the buds are full of them. So I do not think it will rain seeds when I break one open.

On the plus side, if these are female seeds then I have 6 more plants. I do have more OG Kush, got another free pack with my last purchase.... but I did not have any more purple and I wanted to grow that again so this works out in a way. I am switching from AN to GH and wanted to grow the same plant and see if there is a difference in the nutrients. Size, quality, yield.....

Ok so now I know to watch for this the next grow. I just assumed that a female seed would not seed. I wish I knew what caused it. I have been very careful with them. Maybe trimming? I did have to move a couple to get in to water the back plants but I was careful when moving. Temp got a little warm during the day at times, humidity also a little on the high side.... but nothing for long periods. The lights were at 100% but high above the plants. The leaves were healthy and no signs of light stress.

Anyway... aside from the taste at the moment (fresh cut) it seems to have a nice kick to it. The heads are a mix of shades.... some clear and some amber rest milky... on two plants, some clear, some milky on the other two. So much easier to see those little things when the bud in on a table and not on a plant LOL.

 

[WickedMichelle]

Most were tucked underneath buds so they can be very hard to find. Especially when you're getting old and the eyes are not what they used to be

I saw some things that looked similar to your photos but not to that extreme. Little green sack looking things. I found them when I was trimming the plant for jarring.

 

[Beachbumm]

A new grower had some plants hermie and it's the seed company's fault!?

 

[WickedMichelle]

A new grower had some plants hermie and it's the seed company's fault!?

You're awesome!

 

[Organic13]

Good to hear.

I do know that I've read on the forum, these guys are constantly looking lower and all around to check for these things. I don't have enough experience of how to tell you to spot hermies or bananas.

When you don't know, you don't know. Don't let these guys giving you a hard time cause any stress or make you question yourself. They didn't know at one time either. Roll with the punches, then start throwing Tyson KO swings.

 

[Newty]

You went through a lot of changes with your environment throughout your grow. I would lean toward stress induced hermies, I had multiple runs with hermies when I was a new grower. It happens but the more you grow and keep things stable, the less chance these things will happen.

Regardless if they're feminized, some strains are just hermie prone.

You could search the strains you bought and see if anyone else had hermie issues from the same company and strain.

As far as the seeds that were produced, there's a difference depending on if 1 hermie pollinated the others or if each of them hermied on their own.

 

[Newty]

If I remember right, you were running UV, IR, and Deep Red Supplement lighting during this grow.

What schedule were you running each Supplement Light at throughout veg and flower?

 

[Novaracer69]

You went through a lot of changes with your environment throughout your grow. I would lean toward stress induced hermies, I had multiple runs with hermies when I was a new grower. It happens but the more you grow and keep things stable, the less chance these things will happen.

Regardless if they're feminized, some strains are just hermie prone.

You could search the strains you bought and see if anyone else had hermie issues from the same company and strain.

As far as the seeds that were produced, there's a difference depending on if 1 hermie pollinated the others or if each of them hermied on their own.

I have never had a problem with feminized but regs omg so many times I have had to pick out tons of seeds. The last one was blueberry muffin buy Humboldt. It was the only reg in the room to boot.