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I'm really not very good at this.

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the clones are experiencing the same issue, i can see it,.
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Anyone else having there plant look like this, I would suggest you take the pot to the bath tube, and rinse your soil massively, this seems to be.a salt build up in your soil. At least that was my conclusion.

Just wanted to put this out here as I have been told on this site, I am over watering, my light is too close, it's a magnesium deficiency, I need to have a 3 day water cycle, I'm under feeding, the list is long, has taken me 3 years of listening to people on here and trying there suggestions to figure this out. With no luck it was only after I stopped listening to them, that I came to this conclusion.


People are trying to help and they did not mean to give bad information. It's very difficult to be able to tell what a problem is and people are trying so that's respectable. Sadly this site is really anti flush mainly from @Captspaulding but keeping soil clean is a big part of growing in pots.

Hopefully this can help someone else out there. 😎
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no such thing as hot soil or salt build up especially in this issue.
 
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GNick55 said:
the clones are experiencing the same issue, i can see it,.

no such thing as hot soil or salt build up especially in this issue.
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We will have to agree to disagree. Salt based fertilizers have salt in them, too much salt in your soil will create a nutrient lock out. I don't understand why this site will not accept that possibility but it is what it is. Thank you for all your support and help over the years. It's very much appreciated.
 
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2Water said:
Buddy, how's it hanging Pilted! Trying to catch up, was that plant in the same Promixx you just had to rinse out?

Ie: did you rinse that soil or is it full of brawndo?😜
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The plant that started exhibiting the problem was a clone the previous plant I was experimenting on and was pinching the head closed every 2-3 days this caused the leaves to get massively deformed, but I never had the stripping on the leaves. The cutting from that plant was in New promix, then when transfered into 3 gallon pot it was reused soil. That is when the striping in the leaves started. The leaves on this clone were still deformed as it grew but withing a week of putting it in the reused soil it got the strips on the leaves. A week later I took clones off that plant. The new clones which had the striping in the leaves I put in the same soil I put the last clone in (from the same bucket of reused soil, but this time I rinsed the soil massively the new clones already had striped leaves then started coming out with new leaves that were not striped. The deformed leaves is not the issue I am speaking of this is slowly fixing itself and was my own doing from pinching the head closed. I just took clones off the new clones also. But the strips on the leaves in my opinion is from salts in the soil, as this started when I put it in reused soil that was not rinsed. (Soil = promix) The newest clones I'm put those in some organic living soil and see if I have better luck with that.

But the problem is solved strips are gone. Deformity is still there even in the newest clones and the clones in the picture but not as bad.
 
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But the bottom line I'm not asking for help. I have jumped through hoops over the last 3 years trying different suggestion people on this site have given. I'm done with that I usually always get this issue with the stripes on the leaves the only plant I did not get the stripes on is the first generation of this plant. The plant that came from seed, and that plant I changed my feeding schedule to feed feed feed heavy flush. With this feeding schedule I amazingly never had the lock out or stripes on the leaves. I am just posting this as I think many issues I see on this site is a salt build up, but a salt build up is a bad word on this site.
 
#65
From my understanding and well, especially when recycled your soil.

No worries bro, just do you
 
#66
Pilted said:
But the bottom line I'm not asking for help. I have jumped through hoops over the last 3 years trying different suggestion people on this site have given. I'm done with that I usually always get this issue with the stripes on the leaves the only plant I did not get the stripes on is the first generation of this plant. The plant that came from seed, and that plant I changed my feeding schedule to feed feed feed heavy flush. With this feeding schedule I amazingly never had the lock out or stripes on the leaves. I am just posting this as I think many issues I see on this site is a salt build up, but a salt build up is a bad word on this site.
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salt build up especially indoors is a myth,.
what are nutrients???
 
#67
How can it be a myth? Too much salt in soil is bad, or am I missing something? Isn't this exactly why all my bottle fed friends dont reuse thier soils?

Guess that's why I stick to living organics, have the microbes break down the nutes for me🤷‍♂️
 
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2Water said:
How can it be a myth? Too much salt in soil is bad, or am I missing something? Isn't this exactly why all my bottle fed friends dont reuse thier soils?

Guess that's why I stick to living organics, have the microbes break down the nutes for me🤷‍♂️
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what kind of salt is anyone talking about??
nutrients sit in the soil as salts and with watering the salts are broken down,. etc etc..
 
#71
🤷‍♂️ that is the question. So the salts used to chelate the nutrients do not remain in the soil? Not trying to argue Nick, you have way more years of growing, but all my real world growing friends that use bottles all earned me about reusing my soil because of salt build up until I explain I'm running organic
 
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2Water said:

The Impact of Salts on Plants and How to Reduce Plant Injury from Winter Salt Applications : Landscape : Center for Agriculture, Food, and the Environment (CAFE) at UMass Amherst

Across the country, more than 22 million tons of road salt is used every year. In Massachusetts, the Department of Transportation (MassDOT) recommends one or more applications of salt at 240 lbs per lane mile after every snow fall to ensure the safety of those using the roadways.
ag.umass.edu ag.umass.edu
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that salt i think is no longer manufactured because it was killing road side plants,.. and was only used for roads in winter,.
 
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2Water said:
🤷‍♂️ that is the question. So the salts used to chelate the nutrients do not remain in the soil? Not trying to argue Nick, you have way more years of growing, but all my real world growing friends that use bottles all earned me about reusing my soil because of salt build up until I explain I'm running organic
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read that wiki link
 
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2Water said:

When Salt Meddles Between Plant, Soil, and Microorganisms - PMC

In extreme environments, the relationships between species are often exclusive and based on complex mechanisms. This review aims to give an overview of the microbial ecology of saline soils, but in particular of what is known about the interaction ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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that has nothing to do with indoor gardening. that’s for countries with oceans and sea salt as those areas can only grow salt tolerant plants etc,.
 
#77
GNick55 said:
that has nothing to do with indoor gardening. that’s for countries with oceans and sea salt as those areas can only grow salt tolerant plants etc,.
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But doesnt the same principal for salt build up occur without proper flushing and testing?

I'm a universal principal kind of guy, sorry if I'm beating my head against the wall, but I think the confusion is in translation of definitions?

When I decided how I was going to run I went off how my pops grew, how my friends and associates grew or are growing and then researched. If you're saying bottle nutrients do no harm to the soil and can be reused, it would save them tons of money
 
#78
Full disclosure, I'm not arguing, trying have a learning moment because if I was misinformed I'd like to pass it on to others
 
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2Water said:
But doesnt the same principal for salt build up occur without proper flushing and testing?

I'm a universal principal kind of guy, sorry if I'm beating my head against the wall, but I think the confusion is in translation of definitions?

When I decided how I was going to run I went off how my pops grew, how my friends and associates grew or are growing and then researched. If you're saying bottle nutrients do no harm to the soil and can be reused, it would save them tons of money
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i dont reuse soil because viriods viruses etc stuff like that can live 6+ months,. ph buffers can start going out of whack, hell my 10 gallon bags after harvest are solid roots, not much “soil” left to use,..
 
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GNick55 said:
i dont reuse soil because viriods viruses etc stuff like that can live 6+ months,. ph buffers can start going out of whack, hell my 10 gallon bags after harvest are solid roots, not much “soil” left to use,..
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I've been running the same soil this whole time, just adding when I need more
 
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