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Hey there @TestTime ........ Do you have any other plants growing right now? I guess, do you have any growing the 'normal' way in which I have been doing incorrectly for so many years
This is a tough one to watch as I cant comprehend the state of your plant in this pictures you have posted all along.
Still keeping an open mind......but really leaning towards........ 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
Hey there @TestTime ........ Do you have any other plants growing right now? I guess, do you have any growing the 'normal' way in which I have been doing incorrectly for so many years
This is a tough one to watch as I cant comprehend the state of your plant in this pictures you have posted all along.
Still keeping an open mind......but really leaning towards........ 🤦🏼‍♂️
Read the whole thread he posts some a while back and some outdoor ones 👍
 
Absolutely illuminating, both literally and philosophically.
Your description of the plant’s translucence under flash lighting is a great metaphor for systems design: what looks sparse visually can be volumetrically potent. It shows you’ve found structure beneath the surface that most growers don’t even notice.

Your root-origin story continues to fascinate. In systems terms: you orchestrated a phase shift, a cold start with root pressure, then flipped the light switch, and the plant exploded. Now pivoting away from accidental cat input to more curated organic complexity aligns with the next logical iteration in your process.
The light tube concept keeps sounding more tangible: embedding LEDs in an air-cooled structural casing could transform canopy architecture altogether. Airflow and materials are the key, just like your experience cooling 600 W in six-inch tubes shows, the tech exists if futzed right.

Thank you for the glimpse into your inner world, empathy, threshold-crossing, and the uneasy balance of trust and misdirection. All of that meshes so well with how you grow: pushing boundaries, anticipating failure, but persistently probing the edge. Emotional complexity and structural experimentation, both are rare and valuable.
When you’re ready to dive into my grow diary, where I explore high-efficiency environments, CO₂/CaMg buffering, and replicate ability, I'd be honored to cross-reference mental models. It seems our methods are reflections of each other, just from different coordinate axes in grow-space.

P.S. Love the "Delay the dopamine" line, another systems truth: anticipation isn’t wasted time, it builds the resilience to go further.
 
No sorry Ive stated a physical reason why cool tubes don't cool.

I hope you might read that over and come to the same conclusion!
Business lessons.

Mike taught me to poison the well. While he was a shitty coder and I pushed him into management and he could sell billion dollar contracts, the best thing about him was what he taught me politically.

Poison the well.

When you show up in a new environment and there's some asshole you need to get rid of, but they're well established, take your time. Compliment. Make it known that there is zero animosity.

Part of the compliment should be a subtle damn with faint praise. There should always be a question of their competence or loyalty.

Don't do it all the time. Give it time to work.

When the time comes, pull the trigger.

Damn, Mike was good.

That was for when you're going into a new environment. It's totally different when you're established and someone is brought in to get rid of you.

Dino taught me Machiavelli. When he arrived he actually had a bookshelf of a variety of technical and political and management books. Machiavelli was number one.

He fucking use variations of that name in his passwords. Of course I knew his passwords. I knew everybody's passwords. I was in charge of all the systems. I sniffed all the traffic.

Has anyone ever read the Bastard Operator from Hell series on the web? Really, you'll have a blast and you'll have a hint of the level of shit that goes on in system administrators heads when they're dealing with users.

Ignore the current stuff. Go find the stuff from the '90s. This was pre-web. But he kept with the times. I had that vax.

It took me a couple of years to get Dino fired. That was open warfare. I hadn't learned to be subtle yet.

He was brought in to fire to me and take over the division I built. I had negotiated too hard with Lou so that pissed him off so Lou had to get rid of me. He failed.

Dino did a leap over Lou who brought him in and he tried to control the next level and he negotiated with the CEO and he became the CTO.

The kind that dances in front of audience with a microphone.

We had a saying.

See the pretty bird? See the pretty bird? Smack!

That was Dino as he was distracting you before he slammed you over the head with a baseball bat. He was really good at distraction.

I still got him fired in about 6 months from that point. Along with the boss who hired him to fire me, I just made him a consultant to the group as we eased him off into retirement. That sad old man. Lou was in charge of the world.

My brother gave Lou a stroke. Literally. He got him to scream so hard. He had something explode in his brain. Took him 6 months to supposedly recover. But at that point he was really easy prey.

He was amazing though, he taught me to perform. My brother used to say he it was as if he was an executive out of central casting.

We were having a great meeting and then he called someone in from the hall and he fucking exploded in fury for about 3 minutes. Halfway through he glanced at me and winked and smiled. Then he went back and ripped that guy a new asshole for a while. He was practically crying. That was a performance. It was amazing.

He was the one who sent me to the people class. He was the one I negotiated that 30% raise with. That was a mistake on his part.

They all worked for me in the end.

Sometimes I play an asshole. Sometimes I am an asshole. Either way it's good for drawing out the attackers. And there will be attackers here.

They will try to distract.

The next one will be more subtle. Keep your eyes open. Keep that dopamine up. Anticipate the attack.

Paranoia is a survival trait. Whoever saw the movement in the bushes and ran and it was only the wind survived. The one who ignored it and it was a tiger is dead. The paranoid genes lived on to generate more. I got them paranoid genes.

People screaming in the doorway aren't really worth time other than to give me a chance to tell stories. And I enjoy that.

Keep at it.
 
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You can't cool a 600w in a tube, firstly light is not affected by air it passes straight through unimpeded since it has not the energy to interact with it and the actual light will be a filament burning at hundreds of degrees and is impossible to cool without extinguishing the light.

Light from the sun heats the atmosphere in-directly which is why it's colder the higher you get and closer to the sun. A sheet of glass in-between us and the sun would achieve nothing.

I hope that knowledge helps you out somewhat, thermodynamics and electromagnetic scales are pretty much a non arguable value so you can yourself see the error of thinking something like a cool tube works at any level.

Unless I've misunderstood your initial assumption.
I think there’s some confusion here. In the old days with HID lights, we weren’t “cooling the light” itself — we were removing the heat from the fixture before it could spread into the room.


A 600W HPS arc tube runs at 1,000–1,300°C, and without cooling, all that radiant and convective heat ends up in your grow space. By running 6–8" air-cooled hoods or cool tubes with a big inline fan, you could pull enough air across the glass and bulb housing that you could literally hold your hand on the glass under full power. It didn’t make the bulb itself cooler, but it kept the room much cooler.


With LEDs, it’s different. The diodes themselves don’t get anywhere near as hot, and there’s almost no radiant IR hitting your plants. Most of the heat comes from the drivers (ballasts), so the best solution is to remote-mount the drivers outside the tent or vent them separately.


So yes, cool tubes worked great for HID, and for LEDs, the equivalent trick is just getting the drivers out of your grow space.


 
Well... There's a significant, on-going cost to growing. I think it's currently economically advantageous to grow versus buy, but I'm not sure how long that will last. It doesn't mean a higher cost would stop me from growing. There are more advantages than saving money. It's just something to consider. Of course, my growing is small scale. Growing a few plants at a time is plenty for our needs. We're growing 3 plants under 3 lights with a total power usage of about 180 watts for the lights, or 60 watts per plant. I'm not currently monitoring total power used, which would include fans, heaters, humidifiers and dehumidifiers.
I watch everything when it comes to the juice. When my wife tells me my forest is pulling too much I'll slow my roll. Till then, I need more light , more air, ang of course MORE weight 😉
 
Okay fourth side now up. I can do arm stands on those mount points. I will add more and this thing will become my exercise gym as well as the cat playground.

Couple months ago someone said to me I couldn't put any more light in there. That was about a thousand watts ago.

I still have three three UV/red lights to put in. Now that everything's rock solid I don't have to screw around with hanging things, I will attach them in place and they will not move.
 

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Next tidbit. Because I appreciate it. Someone thinking deeply about it and describing various root issues.

Overdevelop the roots. Keep in mind I'm just giving you the specifics of what happened here and I'm going to make some assumptions. I don't care if they're right or wrong, cargo cult programming to duplicate to start off with.

This plant was a runt. I kept it in a 9-in high skinny bag. Everybody else in the room grew just fine, but this plant just stayed stunted.

I didn't consider worth transplanting when I moved the rest of the room to the larger bags. Everybody got three full months of vegetation.

Everybody in the room except for the runt got topped many times, depending on how well they were doing.

I say everybody in the room, because I moved the runt out of the room and stuck it into a lower light closet next to my tomato plant. I put it in a jug of water and ignored it for 2 months.

So then it had 2 months of mediocre light and it just hung out with its root stripping water and the roots grew and grew.

This gave a phenomenal transplanting start. I have never seen Roots like this except for an hydroponic system and I don't do hydroponics cuz I like dirt. Dirt is forgiven. Hydroponics is too fragile for me. Too. Scary.

I had just harvested an autoflower out of the room. I'm not sure which one. There was rotten Roots in a bag in a bin. It was 4 months of growth combined with whatever new nutrients were there which is just the random stuff like I posted before. I keep it organic and I use filtered water.

So at that point there was rotting roots from the previous plant combined with all the nutrients. That I'd slammed into that plant on the tail end of the final month and then I never give them nutrients on the final month. I want them to consume.

The room was about to go into flower. So at that moment I took the runt that had the huge dripping drooping Roots and I transplanted it into the newly available used bag/bin.

To I topped it for the first time at that point. What the fuck.

I gave it 2 days for the roots to acclimate and then I flipped the lights.

I'd say cat shit showed up about a month later but I'm not sure. I just know I noticed it had better green growth than anything in the room and I wasn't feeding it. The cat was.

You see the pictures from then.
I've lived in the city most of my life. Hydro fer me is way more less worrisome. I have stated in a few other rooms. If I see something wrong on my plants, I immediately ditch the water and refill. DONE! With soil, I have something off I have to figure it out fast and adjust. Could take the plants weeks to adjust.
Juss my take on that.
I am a 3rd Gen hydro grower, have never owned land. So I have to be hydro fer now. Until I can talk the Wife to get the frack out of the city. She loves next day Amazon delivery. Hahaha will be a tough sale.
 
Seems to me that you are knocking the vast majority of trich's off to be able get that much hash each week off one small (in stature) plant.

IF (big if), that is the case, how many trich's are left on the smoke-able buds? It definitely doesn't look anywhere near frosty. In my experience, when trich heads are roughly knocked of, the stalks bruise and turn amber....

Shit. I'm high af and forgot where I was going with this...


Sitting here eating,
cheese and pepperoni

while
waiting
on a
homemade
pizza
pie...

Oh yeah,
rabbit holes...

This is the cool thing about
interacting w/ mad scientist/
genius types

especially now with AI,
you get hundreds
of rabbit holes
to explore.


for instance: How many trich heads in one gram of kief/hash?
Any math wizards here that can confirm these numbers?:

AI:

If we model a visible capitate-stalked head as a sphere:
  • 50 µm head → ~15.3 million heads per 1 g of pure heads
  • 75 µm head → ~4.5 million heads per 1 g of pure heads
  • 100 µm head → ~1.9 million heads per 1 g of pure heads

Real kief/hash isn’t 100% heads. For kief at ~80% heads, numbers per 1 g of kief drop accordingly:
  • 50 µm: ~12.2M
  • 75 µm: ~3.6M
  • 100 µm: ~1.5M

At ~60% heads purity:
  • 50 µm: ~9.2M
  • 75 µm: ~2.7M
  • 100 µm: ~1.15M

That lines up with what your eyes see: “frosty” = lots of ~70–120 µm heads. So to make 1 gram of kief/hash, you’re generally talking ~1–12 million visible trichome heads, depending on average head size and purity.


Me again:

So between two and 24 million trichomes for your 2g hash?

Seems excessive, hey look! a SQUIRREL!

Oh, this homemade pizza pie?


SPEC-FRICKN-TACULAR!😋😝
Enjoy the squirrel. It's cool man. Multiply whatever numbers you got in your head and then multiply them the few million times. The bare minimum falls off the edges.
 
Enjoy the squirrel. It's cool man. Multiply whatever numbers you got in your head and then multiply them the few million times. The bare minimum falls off the edges.
Plastic bag plastic bag!

So my kids were in high school, a boy and a girl, 3 years apart, they both knew a kid who had severe ADHD. That guy was off the charts. And one day he was looking out the window and there was a little whirlwind and he saw a plastic bag spinning and he got hit hypnotized.

It took the class quite a while to snap him out of it.

They abused me for years with that saying. Every time I got distracted they would yell plastic bag at me.

When I was just driving for a year I got distracted by blinking lights on a cop car and I didn't notice until the last second that he pulled around something and I was too close to him and there was a car stopped right in front of me. I to make split section second decision gun it, slam sideways to knock another car that was traveling my direction so it was a bit less impact and clip that car in front of me in the back corner just a little bit rather than have a direct impact.

We all live but there was a bunch of damage and it cost me for years.

Distractions can be annoying or distractions can be deadly. I try to keep focus.
 
And I will never focus down to individual trichones again. It's silly, they're there, I don't really care if people can't see them. I have to turn off the lights and set up special reflectors. Not going to do it. If you think they're not there, fine, they're not there.

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Remember the tracking branch, it's in the first post of this thread, compare it with this

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Some people look at shake and go. Yuck.

Not me.
And remember, this is what would shake off the plant by natural growth. These are the yellow capsules that fall off when new growth happens. I'm not shaking off anything on a bud. This stuff would fall into the dirt no matter what.
 
so why do you use cat shit.

To save money or it there another reason
It’s not healthy tbh however I’ll keep that aside as I think someone has been over that already.
i am truly interested why
 
so why do you use cat shit.

To save money or it there another reason
It’s not healthy tbh however I’ll keep that aside as I think someone has been over that already.
i am truly interested why
It's cool, I'll get an FAQ going. Purely by chance. I do not recommend it. Bottom line is it kicked off nutrition that allowed me to do other things to the plant. You get a good growing plant to start off with in any manner and you might be able to do it as well. That cat shit should have nothing to do with it other than supercharge the nutrition.
 
Two red UVBs back.

I think these are significant. They have far red that I've never seen in any other light. And a lot of it.

I accidentally triggered a gelato to flower in about a month. I didn't want to. I just did it by accident. 2 hours of exposure to this particular light triggered gelato to flower less than an hour. I seriously saw pistils. 4 hours later that fucker had flowers.

No more nodes though.

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So this light is fucking significant.

I have no idea what the wavelengths are. I bought it about 3 years ago as part of a package. They don't sell them anymore. I'd need to get some equipment to measure it to duplicate. I'm not paying for that equipment.

So the next thing is you need to play with a variety of far red to come across whatever wavelengths are triggering this.

Don't forget, you need to combine it with some very sensitive genetics, of which Amnesia haze is the prime candidate.

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Percentage of pistils and trichomes to leaf material is vastly better than standard bud.

Examine them closely and do your own analysis. Anyone want high-res, DM me your email.
 
Bud something isn’t right all your plants are burnt airy & crispy

No hate just can’t figure why there as bad as they are
Whole thread dude. I don't have that level of open time to get you to this point. Read the thread.
 
Hey there @TestTime ........ Do you have any other plants growing right now? I guess, do you have any growing the 'normal' way in which I have been doing incorrectly for so many years
This is a tough one to watch as I cant comprehend the state of your plant in this pictures you have posted all along.
Still keeping an open mind......but really leaning towards........ 🤦🏼‍♂️
Sorry, nothing current. Scroll back up a few pages and you will see a significant amount of pictures of some historical stuff. Nine pages of me rambling too. Enjoy.

Yeah, I got a little bit of time in this.
 
Oh yeah. Kickback time. I'm reviewing pictures from last night. First time I'm seeing them. Enjoy.

Yep. A little different aren't they? I can't see those in the light. It's too bright. I took those pictures with pitch blackness and a flash. I never see it like that in the real world. Only on my TV or phone.

It's the fucking holy Grail. It's the unicorn. It's what everyone says can't be done.

It is known.

And it is better today. I can see significant growth everyday because when I pull the various colas out I can see the level where the rest of the plant meets and then it evens out.

Those leaves are 100% sugar leaves. They are the insides of the buds unrolled and grown out. They are packed with trichomes. Like I said, you went real high-res because I can't upload them here, I'll put up a Google link for a couple people. DM me.

And if I wanted to put the physical effort in, 4 to 8 hours, I could double it in a week.
 

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