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Shady’s Natural Selection… Round 4: More Strains & Growing Pains

hey shady! seems lots as changed since my hiatus from the farm ;) looking great, VERY clean bro. I wish you were around to help me with my new set up lol. did i read somewhere that you were thinking of buying a XXXL hood? :) -Mystre.Pharmer
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hey shady! seems lots as changed since my hiatus from the farm ;) looking great, VERY clean bro. I wish you were around to help me with my new set up lol. did i read somewhere that you were thinking of buying a XXXL hood? :)

-Mystre.Pharmer
 
Growing Dj shorts Grape Crush and strawberry cough,was told that it was purple kush at first but i get that dam crinkle leaf on my clones,,,to many purps and kushes hear in Caly,,Us med patients need something new>>>???
 
Shady Round 5 Begins… with veg feedings.

Hey Shady, lookin good bro! That DUD you have is so amazing man. Everytime I see the pics I salivate. What kind of camera do you run?
Glad you like the DUD Malachi... So do I!!! My camera is the Sony DSC-F717 with a huge Carl Zeiss lens, but it's only 5 MP... :cool
You welcome, just like you I have been getting ready for the next round. Will post an update soon.

Most definitely excited for Shady's R5, lol time for some more growing pains.
Thx again HT... Your CJ is in good hands... :handshake Yeah, it's been nice to take a break and do some work, but it's even better to be back at the Farm.


Damn shady i think those nug shots are even better then the pic you got up for photo of the month, way to hold it down
Sup buddy! I really liked how those nug shots of Section A turned out... Hopefully the ones I take from Section B will be worthy of an April nomination... or any of those killer bud shots before harvest. Either way I'm glad you liked them and I'm grateful to be nominated... :sign0005:


your the man Shady!!!
Thx brah... :friday:


yeah man loving that master bubba looks good bro. like them all that's just my favorite
Nice to have you over here Kid! I think I like the Master x Bubba as well... well until I smoke the Chem's Sis and DUD again... I just smoked the last Chem's Sis from Round 3. :bong-hits:

Not sure if I can do this at the Farm, but I asked and will gladly remove the following milkshot if it's against any rules... :itwasntme It was the first hit in my custom Wicked Sands honeycomb tube, back on Thanksgiving...
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Shadys-Wicked-Sands-Sesh.gif


Damn dude! Those cured nuggets look great! Ah it's almost kind of sad to see that last pic of the 600w set up in the bathroom. I remember that thing from a year ago haha.

I am definitive liking that OG mom. She looks stacked for sure. I have heard you say that you "inject" great white into your soil plants before and now I see it again. I always just put it in my nutrient solution and water it in but maybe your method is more effective. Do you use a syringe and literally administer the great white close to the rhizosphere?
Thx for the coco info and sticking through all my lengthy journals Justiceman! This one is def gonna be perpetual... Yeah I ended up just watering/feeding with an extreme amount of runoff in the coco pots... As for Great White injections, I could use a syringe if my rhizosphere were small in relation to the pot, but I simply pour slowly around the base of the plant every couple weeks in soil... :thinking


Shady you've been a busy man with all that trimming. But the fruits of your labor will pay off. Looking forward to seeing the bedroom setup, aside from the veg/mom tent will you be using the room for flower too? Or is the 600 going into the tent?
Hey Socachi... I was gonna rant about my game plan and quote myself, but I'm too lit from that bong rip... :stonedsmilie: So yeah, when I have the funds, I will move the 600W to the bedroom, add a 1000W, place a portable A/C in the bathroom, drain it to the tub and exhaust it, and both hoods through the bathroom directly to the attic. The Shady Veg Station will be placed inside the mother tent and most of the mothers will be flowered prob under the 1000W as Round 5, Section B. :nerd


nice picture Shady, the Master Bubba look sexy bro! Oh boy i wish i could vap some now lol
Thx TCM! I wish I had a vaporizer, but I can say the Master x Bubba is potent and although she smells more like Bubba Kush, she smokes closer to Master with a hint of coffee... :mmm


Sweeeet! yummmm.. herb looks good bro..
:happy Sup brah!!! Man, it's really an honor to have you in my journal Tex... :blush You are seriously one of the top farmers here IMVHO, up there with the likes of OGR and GTD. Thx again for the info on the Texas Slam, but I'm still curious about it in soil... Hydro seems like a perfect choice though.


Shady how different or similar are the aromas of your kushes and mystery buds?
They are all very different.... So far, the 707 HB has a sweet earthy aroma, the Mystery Kush has a faint coffee aroma with more of a kush lingering, the Master x Bubba is very close to the Bubba Kush with a strong coffee smell. So far I've only smoked the Master x Bubba...


Sexy man... just sexy. Looking forward to following your next set.
Thx bud... your grow room build outs are even more sexy. Stay tuned cuz Round 5 continues in this journal... :character0113:


Hey shady! sorry i havent been by man there alot to read man makes my head hurt...lol...everything is looking beautiful ima have to come snatch some of your strains lol...Im running Shmoes DUD hope it come out good like yours....
No worries my man... Yeah I just saw that in your thread... Very cool, and it will be interesting to see as these DUD's are his work as well. :smirk


Awesome bud shots Shady! They look amazing. I really like the master kushx bubba
Whaddup bro! Thx again, the nug shots are gettin' better... Although, I think Section A is gonna blow away those nug shots I took for Section B... ;)


looks like you have some really nice genetics to work with there shady.

Good job on the grow too :D They look mighty fine.
:hi:Thx for stopping by Nada! Yeah, lots of strains and growing pains over here for sure...


hey shady! seems lots as changed since my hiatus from the farm ;) looking great, VERY clean bro. I wish you were around to help me with my new set up lol. did i read somewhere that you were thinking of buying a XXXL hood? :)

-Mystre.Pharmer
Ahhh, there you are... Nice to see you again buddy! Yeah, I will mos def get the Magnum XXXL, but I will prob get the 6" AC version... :D Hahaa, you should have let me know that you needed help with that awesome grow room of yours... Shit I'm unemployed and home all day, every day... :time


Growing Dj shorts Grape Crush and strawberry cough,was told that it was purple kush at first but i get that dam crinkle leaf on my clones,,,to many purps and kushes hear in Caly,,Us med patients need something new>>>???
Welcome to the Farm and my little journal of strains! I understand what you mean about Cali kushes and purps... Never fear cuz there's gonna be some killer gear over here... :evilgrin


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Shady Round 5 Begins… with veg feedings.

Before I begin Round 5, I must note that Round 4 is currently curing nicely, and I’ve been a bean counter on my 2nd Round… So here's the bean count from Round 4, all strains are the mothers and likely crossed by the 707 Headband's late nubbins:

Bubba Kush = 13
Double Underdawg #4 = 1
Double Underdawg #1 = 8
Chemdog's Sis #2 = 4
707 Headband = 8

And I’ll post a couple teaser nug/bean shots as the final nug shots and yield will be posted in a week or two. Here’s a couple shady macros of the 707 Headband’s lower bud sites…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/707HBBean0.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/707HBBean1.jpg

And one of Double Underdawg #1…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/DUD1Bean.jpg

Might as well take a peek into the temporary mother tent where all the girls are recovering from the light scroggin’ by the Shady Veg Station and my trimming of their lower canopies…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/Mothers.jpg

The last couple days of mixing nutes was actually easier due to my labeling system. All the veggin’ soil plants were fed the following mix:

Shady Veg Feedings…
Summary of Saturday’s Soil Section Feedings... 4/10/10
The resulting teas are as follows in ml/gal:
Veg Station & Mother Tent - CM:5/FB:5/Sweet:3/PBP Grow:7/SM-90:1 = 820 PPM, 6.32 pH


And I finally changed the ebb ‘n flow res for the Shady Veg Station last night:

Shady Veg Feedings…
Summary of Sunday’s Hydro Res Change... 4/11/10
The following amounts are as follows in ml/gal and based upon a 10 gal res (filled w/15 gal of R/O):
Ebb ‘n Flow - CM:5/Grow:5/Micro:5/Bloom:3/Zone:3 = 646 PPM, 5.85 pH


While I was at it, I premixed all of Round 5’s first feedings in anticipation of watering immediately after transplanting. Here’s the mix for the MegaGarden:

Shady Veg Feedings…
Summary of Sunday’s Hydro Res Change... 4/11/10
The following amounts are as follows in ml/gal and based upon a 5 gal res (filled w/7 gal of R/O):
MegaGarden - CM:5/Grow:6/Micro:5/Bloom:4/Zone:3 = 679 PPM, 5.82 pH


Then as a shady experiment, I decided to use Great White on the plants in the 3x3 tray with the following mix in my 3 gal container and omitted using Zone (essentially the first feeding immediately after transplant):

Shady Veg Feedings…
Summary of Sunday’s Hydro Res Change... 4/11/10
The following amounts are as follows in ml/gal and based upon a 2 gal res (filled w/3 gal of R/O):
Ebb ‘n Flow - CM:5/Grow:6/Micro:5/Bloom:4/Zone:0 = 682 PPM, 5.79 pH


Clearly that wasn’t going to be enough to get 8, 2 gal smart pots of coco w/40% chunky perlite, plus the 8 hydroton pots properly watered, so I also mixed two 5 gal buckets w/o Great White to hand water the pots completely:

Shady Veg Feedings…
Summary of Sunday’s Hydro Res Change... 4/11/10
The following amounts are as follows in ml/gal and based upon a 3 gal res (filled w/5 gal of R/O):
Ebb ‘n Flow - CM:5/Grow:6/Micro:5/Bloom:4/Zone:0 = 778 PPM, 5.76 pH

Today I mixed the following buckets to hand water drain to waste and prepped a 2nd bucket for tomorrow as well:

Shady Veg Feedings…
Summary of Sunday’s Hydro Res Change... 4/11/10
The following amounts are as follows in ml/gal and based upon a 3 gal res (filled w/5 gal of R/O):
Ebb ‘n Flow - CM:5/Grow:6/Micro:5/Bloom:4/Zone:0/Sweet:3 = 670 PPM, 5.8 pH

:icon_dizzy:
I can’t wait to setup an automated system, but I’m concerned about recycling the nutes due to the runoff PPM’s from the coco pots… It’s consistently higher than the hydroton pots, even with an extreme amount of runoff; then again it’s only been two days of veg before I flip the switch on Round 5 tomorrow.

Enough talk, here’s the first plant to be repotted, Chem Valley Kush #2…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/Round5Transplant0.jpg

And now she’s got more room…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/Round5Transplant1.jpg

Then the first feeding at lights out after getting sprayed with Zone and Pentrator for PM Prevention…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/Round5Transplant2.jpg

Today everything looks good under the HPS, except for a bit of a Ca and Mg def…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/Round5Feeding0.jpg

I also used shims to get a good grade and proper drainage on my tray. Additionally, I decided to place all 8 coco pots near the drain side…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/Round5Feeding1.jpg

I must mention that there are 5 Master Kush x Bubba Kush in the coco smart pots with the 3 shortest clones (bottom left of the picture above) being ones that stretch more than the Master Bubba. One of them is the Double Underdawg #3…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/DoubleUnderdawg30.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/DoubleUnderdawg31.jpg

And the other two are the OG Kush from Round 3…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/OGKush0.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/OGKush1.jpg

To recap Round 5 will begin officially tomorrow with 3 of my fav strains in coco (Master x Bubba, Double Underdawg Bx1, and OG Kush) and 14 seedlings to be sexed in hydroton (Blue Hellfire x Kali Mist, Sensi Skunk, Raskal’s OG, and Chem Valley Kush). So far they’ve all been veggin’ under the HPS for 2 days, but only one has already popped a few pistils… Raskal’s OG #2…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ROGpreflower0.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ROGpreflower1.jpg

Now that the Shady Veg Station’s 2nd shelf’s ebb ‘n flow tray has more room, I can finally transplant the cloned seedlings (these are the tops that ended up growing in my clone dome)…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ClonedSeedlings.jpg

And here’s a rooted clone from my buddy HT… Casey Jones. Now in soil with her twin sister…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/CaseyJones.jpg

Back to the ebb ‘n flow tray, filling up after the res change…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ShadyVegEbbnFlow0.jpg

Now with all the rooted clones transplanted…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ShadyVegEbbnFlow1.jpg

And finally the revised Shady Veg Station with all the lights lowered once again…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ShadyVegStation.jpg

:whew
 
shady looks to be on que for next round eh :)....and nice shots of that fire your smoking, def looks to be some great meds. excellent job bro! ~SMF~
 
Shady ill take two of each please :nod
So wahts the plan for round five UC?
 
awesome shady get the party started again :)
 
Shady you starting another link for round 5? Looking forward to your experiments I learn alot from you. Now if only I could remember half of it LOL
 
The plants are looking hella nice bro! Cant wait to see that Raskal OG flowering. Good luck my friend.

-Supa
 
http://i808.invalid.com/albums/zz2/ShadyRound4/Shadys-Wicked-Sands-Sesh.gif

That's wass up. Straight bad ass dude. Loved the dry nug shots as well. All the plants look very healthy. Great Job. Is it just me or the Casey grew pretty fast.

Should be interesting to see how the CJ does in soil. I am doing some experiments on CJ. pure coco, coco/organics, coco/soil, soil.
 
Damn shady no prob. I will stick around for these lengthy journals for sure. In fact that's one of the main points why I started following your journal in the first place haha.

Looks like you have been busy doing those transplants and everything. Great job man! Lots of dedication as always. Wow the veg station looks baron compared to what it looked like earlier. Finally got some room in there ay?:tongue0011:

How are you liking the coco so far?

I would imagine that the coco run off ppm would be higher because it has a higher Cation Exchange Capacity then hydroton, so it has a similarity closer to soil in that aspect. Hmmm that run off recycling is a good question when you are running two different types of medium in the same table. I can see why you would be concerned if it was automated. I think if you want it automated and you don't want too much salt build up in the coco, or lack of nutes in the hydroton you should probably just do only one type of medium per table.
 
Shady Nug Shots…

shady looks to be on que for next round eh :)....and nice shots of that fire your smoking, def looks to be some great meds. excellent job bro! ~SMF~
Thx SMF! Hell yeah Round 5 is in full effect... :whew I couldn't help myself and took a couple bud shots of Round 4's Section B in the cure... :giggle Looks like I've got to step up my game a bit.


Shady ill take two of each please :nod
So wahts the plan for round five UC?
Sup SkyHi! Man I really want to try the Under Current, but that will prob be in Round 6 after I get some more light first... :thinking


awesome shady get the party started again :)
Thx dude... :friday:Ahh, the party never ended, it just continues on...


Shady you starting another link for round 5? Looking forward to your experiments I learn alot from you. Now if only I could remember half of it LOL
Nah, this journal is perpetual... For now.:icon_spin: But Round 5 has officially begun.


The plants are looking hella nice bro! Cant wait to see that Raskal OG flowering. Good luck my friend.

-Supa
Thx again Supa! I'm really excited to finally get these seedlings sexed... :happy


That's wass up. Straight bad ass dude. Loved the dry nug shots as well. All the plants look very healthy. Great Job. Is it just me or the Casey grew pretty fast.

Should be interesting to see how the CJ does in soil. I am doing some experiments on CJ. pure coco, coco/organics, coco/soil, soil.
Very cool brah... I'm lookin' forward to hearing about your results. :nerd


Damn shady no prob. I will stick around for these lengthy journals for sure. In fact that's one of the main points why I started following your journal in the first place haha.

Looks like you have been busy doing those transplants and everything. Great job man! Lots of dedication as always. Wow the veg station looks baron compared to what it looked like earlier. Finally got some room in there ay?:tongue0011:

How are you liking the coco so far?

I would imagine that the coco run off ppm would be higher because it has a higher Cation Exchange Capacity then hydroton, so it has a similarity closer to soil in that aspect. Hmmm that run off recycling is a good question when you are running two different types of medium in the same table. I can see why you would be concerned if it was automated. I think if you want it automated and you don't want too much salt build up in the coco, or lack of nutes in the hydroton you should probably just do only one type of medium per table.
Ahaa! You snuck by me with that post... Dude, I'm so thrilled that the veg station is baren. It's really nice to have it somewhat manageable again... BTW, the coco runoff is dropping and I think it may go lower over the next few days... meaning incoming and runoff PPM's should be very close except for what the plants are eating and leaving behind, but we shall see. :smirk


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Shady Nug Shots…

I forgot to post a couple shots of the Master x Bubba that I took yesterday…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/MasterxBubba1.jpg

There’s a slight def of Phosphorus, Magnesium, and Calcium as evidenced by the twisting leaves, lime green new growth, red stems and petioles, but we shall see what happens over the next few days…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/MasterxBubba.jpg

Then I realized it would be silly to just post those shots w/o any others, so I snapped a few angles of a Chemdog’s Sister/D #1’s nug, as she continues the cure…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ChemsSis10.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ChemsSis11.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/ChemsSis12.jpg

And I think this shady shot, of the 707 Headband, looks pretty good from Section B’s cure as well…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/707Headbandcopy.jpg

:cool
 
that headband is sick my dude! like puff said "he is never gonna stop NEVER GONNA STOP!"
 
Shady Preflowers…

that headband is sick my dude! like puff said "he is never gonna stop NEVER GONNA STOP!"
Thx for the love winta! :cool


:flower
Shady Preflowers…

Well, on the second day, the second female has decided to show her preflowers. I proudly present Chem Valley Kush #4…
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/CVK40.jpg

Then I cut that lowest branch into two clones and we shall see if the lower clipping actually roots.
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/CVK41.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/CVK42.jpg

:smirk
 
Beautiful shots Shade.........digging that photoshop animated bongrip...coolstuff. I have got to learn how to do something like that!!
What's your favorite smoke, right now, for end of the day chillin smoke out...after dinner??



:smiley_joint:
 
Oh shit man. It's time to ready yourself for a valley full of dat chem kush:giggle
 
Shady Preflowers…

Beautiful shots Shade.........digging that photoshop animated bongrip...coolstuff. I have got to learn how to do something like that!!
What's your favorite smoke, right now, for end of the day chillin smoke out...after dinner??



:smiley_joint:
Right on CAPO! It was really easy to do the animated GIF...using Photoshop layers, magnetic lasso, cutout filter, Image Ready, and then save optimized as an Animated GIF... All in that order.

Here's the How To link on creating the animated GIF:

As for the the smoke, I usually have to stay away from my OG's and Chem's until evening or the end of the day cuz they hit hard! I love them... But sallies would be great for the occasional wake and bake, and afternoon sesh...

Oh shit man. It's time to ready yourself for a valley full of dat chem kush:giggle
Thx bud! I hope to find a couple more females... Here's the 3rd lady to join the party and that makes two of the 3 ROG's!!! Now I kinda hope that the 3rd is a boy... :itwasntme

Today I mixed up all the diff feedings for both gardens and will post the details on the nutes tomorrow along with more picts.


:happy
Shady Preflowers…

Alright, another lady decided to lift up her skirt… Raskal’s OG #3.
http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/RaskalsOG30.jpg

http://i858.invalid.com/albums/ab146/ShadyRoundFive/Shady%20Round%205/RaskalsOG31.jpg

:rock

P.S. I have to say that the Farm is a great place to be... Many thanks to Logic, the rest of the staff, mods, and my buddies... Much respect to everyone. :cool
 
Nice on the 3 females bro. How stretchy are the Raskals?

-Supa
 
Shady got some good genes going there my man. Let's see how the ROG & C4 do. I'm sure they're going to be some bad ass plants. Now are those going to be your moms?
 
Agreed with Socachi. Shady definitely got hell of genetics going.
 
Yes Shady keep killing it bro we have ur back!!! Great selection dude thats the way to go.
 
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