100 p's indoor???

[skuzz99]

that is an absurbly large amount to grow! fuk me, u wud be slaving away day n nite to grow that much.

 

[Thoth]

Do iiiiitttt! And then provide pictorial evidence. ;)

 

[bobby]

Hello, i was reading somewhere that it is possible to pull 100 p's indoor. What would have to be done. How many watts etc........ is it possible with the legal limit with 99 plants?

Yes you can. Here is how:

1. Research how to grow 1 lb plants. Purchase a book called "The Secrets of the West Coast Masters by Dru West" Or do you own research online, but it will take too long to post here.

2. Get $300,000 cash and a 5000 square foot warehouse.

3. Get quotes from grow room contractors. It'll cost you about $300k.

4. Get 2 of your best friends to help you.

5. Build the grow room, plant 99 plants and start.

It's that simple.

The best part is that you will make your money back in the first harvest. 100 lbs in california is about $300,000. Which is only what it cost to build your indoor farm....so go do it.

 

[baba G]

You could easily set up that grow with 150k or less and that would count your power bills to first harvest even...

 

[baba G]

To pay 5k for each light setup for a 60lighter is way too much...
2-2500 per light should cover all expenses.
But anyone who starts a thread about this is obviously not at all serious about buying a 60lighter.

 

[LexLuthor]

IMO it really makes no sense to even have this conversation, of course someone could grow 100 pounds indoors, its just very expensive so not many people could do it. The people that can do it obviously don't talk about it. Its the same as asking if its possible to grow 1000 pounds, yes its possible but the amount of money and space would have to be 10 times more then 100 pounds.

Just focus on 1 pound, after you accomplish that then you will have an idea of what needs to be done for 10 or even 100 pounds.

 

[bobby]

To pay 5k for each light setup for a 60lighter is way too much...
2-2500 per light should cover all expenses.
But anyone who starts a thread about this is obviously not at all serious about buying a 60lighter.

We're discussing a room that would be 100 lights, so at $2500 per light, that's $250k. Then you have to account for things like overhead, etc.

 

[baba G]

Oh, thought you were discussing a 100 pound yielding room...So, I figured 60 lights at a pinch over 1.5 a light would easily hit that mark.
&2500 a light includes overhead as when you buy 60 1kw lights, regardless if it's high end equipment you never spend over $300 for the actual single 1kw light setup. Than I factored in cooling and plastics or whatever medium and containers are being utilized and water and power, and nutes and manpower. If one doesn't have the capabilities to do most of the setup on their own then hiring people to do H20 plumbing, HVAC, and just grow room setup and all that adds up.

So, a 100lighter, should run 250k to set up, I concur:)

 

[baba G]

Guess I missed out on the 99 plant count limit. So 60 lighter, 1 plant per light, 2 pounds a tree = 120lbs.

 

[bobby]

You could easily set up that grow with 150k or less and that would count your power bills to first harvest even...

This isn't possible for 150k, unless you want to build it with your own hands. But when you are playing with these types of resources, it's probably not the best business decision to build the room with your own hands. You're talking about a professional agricultural production facility.

You will have $18k in utility costs alone for the first harvest, then at .50 cents per square foot for rent, you're spending 2500 per month in rent. For 4 months of growing, in simply rent and utilities, it's $28k. That leaves you $120k to do your build out. Building a 100 light grow for $120k is impossible, unless it is really ghetto and you use the worst of everything.

The point of this conversation isn't about the actual cost, but I wanted to put a realistic budget out there. If you aren't equipped with $200-300k, you cannot attempt this. But certainly, you cannot put up a 100 light grow for 150K...not one that will work properly anyway.

 

[baba G]

Again, I was factoring a 60 light grow, for that 120k, and it can be done.

Re-read post #28;)

 

[baba G]

Oh, thought you were discussing a 100 pound yielding room...So, I figured 60 lights at a pinch over 1.5 a light would easily hit that mark.
&2500 a light includes overhead as when you buy 60 1kw lights, regardless if it's high end equipment you never spend over $300 for the actual single 1kw light setup. Than I factored in cooling and plastics or whatever medium and containers are being utilized and water and power, and nutes and manpower. If one doesn't have the capabilities to do most of the setup on their own then hiring people to do H20 plumbing, HVAC, and just grow room setup and all that adds up.

So, a 100lighter, should run 250k to set up, I concur:)

We are on the same page.

 

[ProdigyGrower]

Your gonna need the rite genetics also I would say that is prolly most important along with the right amount of light environment and grow style n technique it can be done check out my thread prodigy's big bushes to give you an idea of what 1 lb plants look like.

 

[LexLuthor]

I have to agree with baba G, both of ya'll are basically factoring in the same costs per light, its just baba G is looking at it with a 60 light grow and bobby is thinking 100 lights.

Again, I think baba is correct only because it does not take a 1000w light to grow 1 lb, you can get 1 lb from a 600w by training techniques and hydro. With a 1000w people ususally get 1.5-2 lbs. So both of ya'll are right when it comes to cost per light, its just bobby over shot the light count thinking you can only get 1 lb per light.

 

[bobby]

I have to agree with baba G, both of ya'll are basically factoring in the same costs per light, its just baba G is looking at it with a 60 light grow and bobby is thinking 100 lights.

Again, I think baba is correct only because it does not take a 1000w light to grow 1 lb, you can get 1 lb from a 600w by training techniques and hydro. With a 1000w people ususally get 1.5-2 lbs. So both of ya'll are right when it comes to cost per light, its just bobby over shot the light count thinking you can only get 1 lb per light.

I think you are missing the fact that he can only work with 99 plants and wants to achieve 100 lbs. If you wanted to try and grow 100 lbs with 60 lights and 99 plants, you have to attain 1.7 lbs per plant. That isn't a safe bet. You're better of betting on 1 lb per plant per light.

I think this is a great discussion, because this should be the goal of all the farmers here on the site.

But I would like to set the expectation straight for anyone reading this, because it's a great business concept/problem and there are tons of folks out there who can afford to attempt this. They simply don't because they don't have all the details. Who wouldn't invest in a $300k business, if they make their money back in 4-5 months? Especially if it's all within legal plant limits? I think every rich prick out there would be doing this if they knew the details and how to pull it off. By the time a federal investigation even begins, you've already doubled your money and your attorney fees are only $350 an hour. But with 99 plants, the feds won't even get called in.

To stay within the 99 plant limit and harvest 100 lbs, you'll need $300k and a 5000 square foot warehouse. Every one should do this, period.

 

[baba G]

If your expecting only a pound per 1kw, that's a bad investment, imo

 

[dirk d]

hey guys i just bought (100) 1000w ballasts and am setting up my warehouse.. I've decided to grow 200#'s a run. Can someone tell me the difference between hps and mh?? Oh and how much AC do I need?? thanks for your cooperation!

 

[baba G]

I think you are missing the fact that he can only work with 99 plants and wants to achieve 100 lbs. If you wanted to try and grow 100 lbs with 60 lights and 99 plants, you have to attain 1.7 lbs per plant. That isn't a safe bet. You're better of betting on 1 lb per plant per light.

I think this is a great discussion, because this should be the goal of all the farmers here on the site.

But I would like to set the expectation straight for anyone reading this, because it's a great business concept/problem and there are tons of folks out there who can afford to attempt this. They simply don't because they don't have all the details. Who wouldn't invest in a $300k business, if they make their money back in 4-5 months? Especially if it's all within legal plant limits? I think every rich prick out there would be doing this if they knew the details and how to pull it off. By the time a federal investigation even begins, you've already doubled your money and your attorney fees are only $350 an hour. But with 99 plants, the feds won't even get called in.

To stay within the 99 plant limit and harvest 100 lbs, you'll need $300k and a 5000 square foot warehouse. Every one should do this, period.

If we had a "Best of" for the farm this would almost make it...lmao
Unfortunately it takes a ton of know how and experience to do this, if it were only as easy as, "here is the money, I'd like to put 300k down on margin..." lol

 

[baba G]

hey guys i just bought (100) 1000w ballasts and am setting up my warehouse.. I've decided to grow 200#'s a run. Can someone tell me the difference between hps and mh?? Oh and how much AC do I need?? thanks for your cooperation!

Dirk don't do it the wrong way, LED that shit up!!

 

[bobby]

If we had a "Best of" for the farm this would almost make it...lmao
Unfortunately it takes a ton of know how and experience to do this, if it were only as easy as, "here is the money, I'd like to put 300k down on margin..." lol

I think there are tons of people doing it this big in california and colorado....it's no easy task, but it's not rocket science either. A few weeks researching growers like jackmayoffer and there you have it.