Chaos in the 4th Dimension- A grow diary

[outwest]

hey i just want to say it was good seeing ya. ill have to come down sometime soon.
the woody kush is the fav! very nice:)

Definitely. I made my own DIY desiccator just like yours. Doing my first BHO run tomorrow. Thanks for all the tips.

You killed it. Not surprised really. You got skills my man. If you want the real pre 98 i am sure that could be arranged. Never saw the pre 98 get a solid cola like that. What did you thinks of it. Aliendawg looks wonderful

Peace

The Pre-98 may not be the pre-98. Definitely not a coffee smell, but rather a licorice/anise flavor and aroma. The plant that I FIM'd one had solid colas, but the plant that I FIM'd twice stretched a lot more and had smaller nugs. One thing I discovered with FIMing is that it seems you don't want to do it more than once. It stresses the plant out and it responds with excessive stretching and possbly herming.

The AlienDawg is OK but not great. Has a super sour smell, but really is going to need some time jarred up. Not much flavor to speak of.

Thanks!

 

[tattoojim]

hey bro sry i have not hit you back been kinda crazy around my parts..i will send you some diy direction tonight once again sry bro

 

[outwest]

And now for you viewing pleasure, a few nug shots and my very first BHO run (thanks for all the help deep and primo!).

Mob Boss kola!

Some closeup deliciousness:

FIRST TUBE of BHO

The first BHO pass in hot water bath

The final product, calling it Outwest's Magic Mix not strain specific, but dank as hell and super strong.

 

[flowamasta]

Mob boss lookin soooo tasty i think i can taste the screen...damn you outwest this isn't even my computer and the screen is all slimy now!
BHO , that a hell of alot of oil! did you further purge or whip it in a bath of boiling water...just curious.. it kind of looks like it could further cure with a good whip and heat....if it bubbles with heat more curing in order....just thinking of safety for your lungs outwest! enjoy your rewards :) you will be forever high and happy!
please don't take it the wrong way! BHO over here is hard to come by in high purity, and i see too many f-ups from mates. Keep up the siiiik work outwest! i'm just going to awe at your mob boss ;)

 

[outwest]

It does NOT bubble with heat. If I made one mistake with this first run it was keeping it too high of heat during the water bath. I think that is why it is darker and waxier. I was doing both vac and heat purge. The bubbles were formed from vac purging after heating. I even heated and vac purged at the same time! Good lookin out homie! If I wanted it more clear I think I would have had to maintain a lower hot water bath.

outwest

 

[catdaddy]

loving with your doing with the organics and would like to start doing some organic growing myself. i had plans on making teas with them and would like some advise on how to go about doing so? i am just looking for the basics now, nothing too advance, what would you suggest? here's what i got: one bag is 8-4-1 and 2nd 13-12-2 and a bag of ewc for veg to start out with, what ratio should i mix at and how much water to dilute with each mix? forgot to mention that im using promix as my medium. thanks in advance.

 

[outwest]

Thanks CD! Unfortunately I can only answer some of your questions.

I'll start by saying I have no familiarity with any organic regimen other than subcool's super soil recipe. I can say that if you follow his instructions to a T, you will have great success!

Once you mix his soil recipe and let it sit for a month, it's pretty much set it and forget it. The only thing you have to do is water. I added aerated compost tea instead of watering, and it seemed to work very well. I didn't set any yield records, but the product is top shelf.

My tea recipe is as follows:

2.5 gallons of filtered water (not RO but chlorine/chloramines removed)
1 tsp foliar
1 tsp root
2 heaping tbsps of Earth Recharge Compost OR Alaskan Humisoil
2 heaping tbsps of powdered molasses

This all goes in a 5 gallon bucket with a 5 gallon paint strainer inside and 2 air stones each with their own air pump. I let this bubble for 12-20 hours. Pull the pain strainer out and let it drip drain for a minute. Mix this solution with about 4 gallons of water and feed directly to my plants. It gets applied as a foliar undiluted. I do this for about 80% of my waterings. It's not nearly as strong as some of the other recipes, but I also don't dilute in the same fashion. Plants love it.

Hope this helps.

outwest

 

[Dunge]

Outwest & I are reading from the same script when it comes to super soil.
I have used the soil immediately after blending if needed.

My tea is in a "simplify to the max" phase.
To one gallon of water I add 300 ml (two hand grabs) of ground alfalfa and a pinch of kelp meal.
Plop in the bubble stone and let it run for three days to next watering.
On water day I strain my tea through mosquito netting and feed the waste to my worm bin.
Drain off the fluids from my worm bin and dehumidifier and make up my watering mix.
I don't wash anything, so the microbial populations are seeded from batch to batch and by the alfalfa.
(I tested this by starting a batch with clean equipment and watching the microbial population evolve over the three day cycle time)

If the foam gets uppity I add a few drops of oily fish fertilizer. A dab of molasses will calm "horse crap" like smells.

I have used a variety of innocculents in the past with a variety of results vis a vis microbial demographics, but the plants don't seem to care who is in the tea.

I tend to like microbial variety and motility. It's just more fun.

Caps root and foliar packs are in the mail, so some aspects of this are scheduled to get more complicated.

Super soil and tea only. Start to finish in three gallon bags with LST / lolly pop trim.
It was hard for me to believe that this would work so well.

 

[outwest]

Super soil and tea only. Start to finish in three gallon bags with LST / lolly pop trim.
It was hard for me to believe that this would work so well.

Thanks for stopping by Dunge. The exchange of new ideas are always welcome around these parts!

Can you elaborate on your use of super soil in 3 gallon pots? I assume you are doing 100% super soil in a 3 gallon pot and the plants have a pretty developed root system? I'd much prefer to use 3 gallon pots, but I was following subcool's instructions which called for a 7 gallon pot with 2-3 gallons of super soil at the bottom. Danks!

outwest

 

[catdaddy]

do any of you guys measure the ppm's with these teas?

 

[Dunge]

Can you elaborate on your use of super soil in 3 gallon pots? I assume you are doing 100% super soil in a 3 gallon pot and the plants have a pretty developed root system?

Nice thread outwest.
I don't grow big trees, so a three gallon may not work best in all situations, but for low slung shruberies like I like it works well. I can easily move them about when needed.
I dilute my super soil for newly rooted cuttings only. I stage from Rapid Rooter plugs into 1.5 inch, then six inch, then three gallon bag. I prefer a good root ball from the small pots, then the bag develops a solid root mass which air prunes about a half inch from the bag sides. I sculpt the top so that water pools to the center when watering and does not run to the edge and out the bag fabric.

I feel that the more growers drawn to the organic super soil school of farming the better the world will be. It's easy, inexpensive, and low stress (for me). I love mixing up batches. About half the cost of FFOF. I don't know how many times it can be reused, but the number is greater than two.

I should add that I use rain water or spring water in the winter.
Good water is good.

Keep on growing.

 

[flowamasta]

It does NOT bubble with heat. If I made one mistake with this first run it was keeping it too high of heat during the water bath. I think that is why it is darker and waxier. I was doing both vac and heat purge. The bubbles were formed from vac purging after heating. I even heated and vac purged at the same time! Good lookin out homie! If I wanted it more clear I think I would have had to maintain a lower hot water bath.

outwest

good man :) interesting, i can get one of those vac pumps for about $100 easy to setup? i may give it a go with some ultra refined butane off ebay one day....looks an interesting texture, when i see my shellite mix like that that's when i know to further purge but they are 2 completely different solvents....i like the idea of the vac purge for sure, it looks fast and efficient. So that's pretty solid stuff or like honey comb kinda? explain the smell :) please... :) pretty please ;)

 

[Capulator]

Nothing but great looking girls this time. GREAT job. You make me want to go to soil sometimes.

 

[Mogrow]

Nice thread outwest.
I don't grow big trees, so a three gallon may not work best in all situations, but for low slung shruberies like I like it works well. I can easily move them about when needed.
I dilute my super soil for newly rooted cuttings only. I stage from Rapid Rooter plugs into 1.5 inch, then six inch, then three gallon bag. I prefer a good root ball from the small pots, then the bag develops a solid root mass which air prunes about a half inch from the bag sides. I sculpt the top so that water pools to the center when watering and does not run to the edge and out the bag fabric.

I feel that the more growers drawn to the organic super soil school of farming the better the world will be. It's easy, inexpensive, and low stress (for me). I love mixing up batches. About half the cost of FFOF. I don't know how many times it can be reused, but the number is greater than two.

I should add that I use rain water or spring water in the winter.
Good water is good.

Keep on growing.

Dunge// i'm reclying my super soil, think i can do it for maybe a year, the plants will let me know..
i like using native soil and amend as i see fit.
rain water is my next project, but it has to rain first:eek:
alot of us are going the super soil route with Outwest leading the organic charge...

 

[outwest]

This is not the final post here, but I just want to send out some thanks & praises. Definitely more dried shots to come.

1) First and foremost the entire THCfarmer community. The encouragement and camaraderie we all share is worth it's weight in gold. Through all of the support, advice, and positive vibes, I have learned to listen to my garden, and really understand what it's telling me. It would have taken me years to get to the point of comfort and expertise in my garden on my own. There has not been a single problem that I haven't gotten a sound answer for. Whether it's pest control, or watering frequency, or who-knows, the farm has my back. There would be to many people to call out and I'd forget tons, so a massive thanks to all of you. That's to all the mods and folks who run the site as well.

2) Capulator's Bennies & SubCool's Super Soil - This shit goes together like chocolate and peanut butter. High microbial content teas made with caps roots and foliars brewed and watered in as well as foliar sprayed. It's truly magic. Thanks, Cap. I know subcool will probably never read this. . .but thanks, you made this very easy for me and a lot of other gardeners. The quality is exceptional and I have a found a growing regimen that will provide me a rock solid foundation for further optimization. The only thing I thought was needed is a little more silica, so I grabbed a few pounds DE to strengthen stems and branches.

3) The Breeders that are active here add tremendous value not only through your genetics, but also through your expertise. This kind of shit is priceless and adds tremendous value to your product.

Thanks again all. I'll be starting my next thread featuring some Golden Lion Genetics testers in the next week or so. Enjoy the week.

outwest

 

[NaturalTherapy]

Great work!

 

[flowamasta]

you're the man :) outstanding work outwest! pure quality at it's best!

 

[outwest]

Dunge// i'm reclying my super soil, think i can do it for maybe a year, the plants will let me know..
i like using native soil and amend as i see fit.
rain water is my next project, but it has to rain first:eek:
alot of us are going the super soil route with Outwest leading the organic charge...

Mo - What's your process for re-using the soil? Need to make another batch and would rather reuse. Danks!

outwest

 

[outwest]

good man :) interesting, i can get one of those vac pumps for about $100 easy to setup? i may give it a go with some ultra refined butane off ebay one day....looks an interesting texture, when i see my shellite mix like that that's when i know to further purge but they are 2 completely different solvents....i like the idea of the vac purge for sure, it looks fast and efficient. So that's pretty solid stuff or like honey comb kinda? explain the smell :) please... :) pretty please ;)

It's a real candle wax consistency. It does have a little honeycomb, that happens when you vac purge the heated material. The Mob Boss's sweetness dominates the flavor for sure. It's interesting because it's a mix of some pretty potent product. . .a real face ripping high.

outwest

 

[outwest]

Nothing but great looking girls this time. GREAT job. You make me want to go to soil sometimes.

Thanks, homie. Just met a bunch of other organic soil gardeners yesterday including a couple of guys who are running a dispo down in the springs. I think it's impressive that they are running a strict organic/soil regimen in a commercial operation. I've just turned them on to your bennies. Trying to put together a group order. :)

outwest