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Progression is lookin promising... thanks for showing me some new new... never seen an outside greenhouse grow
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Looks good positive vibes
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Ha! I used to have a little camping table just like that one!
Your reuse of the barrel, including cabbaging the fire door and controllers from another stove is pretty neat, you guys must have someone with some welding/metal-working skills in the group. Next up for you? Pyrolizing chamber for your biochar, because with all that land you're gonna need a lot. :D
It's the blue jays for us up here that do the most (bird) damage. The scrubs, not the Stellar jays. No mockingbirds up here, though, but now of course the robins are in full swing and I love hearing them singing as soon as it gets light out.
This is going to be beautiful once everything becomes established.
Your reuse of the barrel, including cabbaging the fire door and controllers from another stove is pretty neat, you guys must have someone with some welding/metal-working skills in the group. Next up for you? Pyrolizing chamber for your biochar, because with all that land you're gonna need a lot. :D
It's the blue jays for us up here that do the most (bird) damage. The scrubs, not the Stellar jays. No mockingbirds up here, though, but now of course the robins are in full swing and I love hearing them singing as soon as it gets light out.
This is going to be beautiful once everything becomes established.
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Big Hempin and Gooey: Thanks for the wonderful comments, it's always nice to get a little pat on the back.
Sea Maiden: On this job there was no welding skills necessary, thank goodness too. Actually one of our members was supposed to do some welding, but crunch time was coming in way to fast for me so I modified the plans for pure bolt on mods, and stove mortar to seal the deal. I (Spencer in this instance) unfortunately lack in custom metal skills, I wrenched for Toyota for 10 years or so, built custom cabinets, and apprenticed at Sierra Timber Framers, where I learned to... Timber Frame, Japanese style. Many other traits as well, Jack of trades and a master of none...
For the bio-char we plan using one of our clay pits (fairly large) to burn in, preferably with a light rain or garden hose, then a thin covering of earth to trap the nutes. When we finally get around to it, we will for sure throw up pics.
Yeah I don't think any of us have seen any Blue Jays around here, lots of scrubs though as well, warblers, and magpies, all of which love the little greens and seeds, except those darn magpies, we caught stealing colas, (literally breaking the branches and flying away with nugs). Come to think about it we have the highest population of Bald Eagles, and predator birds in the lower 48. Chris a bird guy from OSU was coming out to our place keeping track of a hawk couple nestled in our Junipers. Have you ever heard the sound of a Night Hawk?
Sea Maiden: On this job there was no welding skills necessary, thank goodness too. Actually one of our members was supposed to do some welding, but crunch time was coming in way to fast for me so I modified the plans for pure bolt on mods, and stove mortar to seal the deal. I (Spencer in this instance) unfortunately lack in custom metal skills, I wrenched for Toyota for 10 years or so, built custom cabinets, and apprenticed at Sierra Timber Framers, where I learned to... Timber Frame, Japanese style. Many other traits as well, Jack of trades and a master of none...
For the bio-char we plan using one of our clay pits (fairly large) to burn in, preferably with a light rain or garden hose, then a thin covering of earth to trap the nutes. When we finally get around to it, we will for sure throw up pics.
Yeah I don't think any of us have seen any Blue Jays around here, lots of scrubs though as well, warblers, and magpies, all of which love the little greens and seeds, except those darn magpies, we caught stealing colas, (literally breaking the branches and flying away with nugs). Come to think about it we have the highest population of Bald Eagles, and predator birds in the lower 48. Chris a bird guy from OSU was coming out to our place keeping track of a hawk couple nestled in our Junipers. Have you ever heard the sound of a Night Hawk?
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BTW BottleKap: No problem brother.
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Never heard or seen a night hawk! But I'm an amateur-occasional birder, so I love geekin' out on that sort of stuff.
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Just as the sun is going down, you here low tone sounds of a trumpet... It's the closest sound I can think of to them. It took us nearly 2 years to figure it out. They fly up into the air then dive straight down catching bugs, and then they position their wings in such a way that it creates an air-break and they pull out about 20' or so from the ground. The "air-breaking" is what makes the trumpet sound.
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I've never heard anything like that before, definitely. Do you think you can get it on video?
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As soon as they come out I will get a recording, it's still too cold for them right now... lol... it was sunny and warm earlier, now there is 2" of snow on the ground... Nor Cal...
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crunch time...down to the last week...perfect time for a snow storm...
this week we continued work on the heating system...cut and assembled part of the cement board structure which will house the double barrel stoves...laid bricks in the south stove to prevent
the heat from burning out the bottom barrel...wired an electrical box and switch in the tin shed which will power and control fans and blowers inside...
finished repairing the vents...the door on the west side of the greenhouse was becoming an inconvenience where it was so we moved it a few panels south...
got the beginning of the irrigation system...tubes and connectors and what not...still waiting on the water reservoir and pump...
added a dose of diatomaceous earth to the beds...
the light dep clones are still rooting but looking great...
the full season plants are huge...its the last week in their 7 gallon homes...a few of them are getting to be too big for the pots there in...
seven more days till we plant...woo
this week we continued work on the heating system...cut and assembled part of the cement board structure which will house the double barrel stoves...laid bricks in the south stove to prevent
the heat from burning out the bottom barrel...wired an electrical box and switch in the tin shed which will power and control fans and blowers inside...
finished repairing the vents...the door on the west side of the greenhouse was becoming an inconvenience where it was so we moved it a few panels south...
got the beginning of the irrigation system...tubes and connectors and what not...still waiting on the water reservoir and pump...
added a dose of diatomaceous earth to the beds...
the light dep clones are still rooting but looking great...
the full season plants are huge...its the last week in their 7 gallon homes...a few of them are getting to be too big for the pots there in...
seven more days till we plant...woo
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It all looks great to me. :) Thanks for keeping the updates coming, too.
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north stove assembly complete...preformed the first burn last night...the face of the stove got to about 1100 degrees...we still need to work out some of the kinks so we can properly supply the warm air throughout the greenhouse...
were holding out on completing the north stove until we fine tune the south one...
50 tiny chicks have arrived and settled in quite nicely...in time they will provide nutrients to the garden and gardeners alike...
also...my wonderful girlfriend brought me home a darling baby puppy this week...Diesel Dawg...
too cute...busy busy busy...next week the Nomad Crew will be up in ashland OR for the yonder mountain string band show...ill try to get out here for a 4/20 update...until next time remember this time
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Love the chickies!! Are you going to just let them do their thing, or are you going to try to tame them down?
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Heater system is looking real nice. Is it some sort of forced air system? Would love to hook my greenhouse up to my heater. I have a outside wood boiler that I can pump my heating evenly through a concrete floor which would be sweet. Nice looking pup hope he doesn't have a thing for chicken nuggets.
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Sorry this one is so short... just got the net back on, sorry for the delay, we have shots of last weeks progress, and will get that up asap. And will be right back in the next 24 hrs to answer those questions. I have been putting irrigation lines together for the last 2 nights, and my fingers are already really tender from cutting all the ducting holes in the steel shed. BRB.
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Well this batch of little ones, will go to the tractor. Not a bad place for sure. They get moved everyday, and the tractor is sized up for the amount of chicks to sustain. Interestingly enough, you have to move it everyday, not because the chicks have devoured everything, but because beyond that amount of chick poop becomes to hot for the land to handle. We have another Auracuana??? that is going on 4 she has free run of the place and I think she thinks she is a dog, lays her eggs in the dog house, naps with them, runs with them, etc...
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Lol... just caught the pup (Diesel) messin with the big chicken, had to get schooled. Yes, it is a forced air heating system. The greenhouse being single layer poly is more like a big ass cold frame (with climate controls), sits at about 2000 sq ft, and something like 32K cu ft. So we needed about 300K BTUs to heat the joint. The double barrel stoves are rated at about 70K BTUs per barrel. We have a 12" intake duct that runs from the Greenhouse to a return plenum with a Dayton 470 cfm inside(Actually a 2 speed fan 470/320). From here, the air gets pushed through a 10" duct into the cement board furnace box. On the south stove the return air enters at the front of the top barrel, and exits just above the top barrel horizontally. Out of the box, the shed and into the greenhouse, where the hot air flows through a 10" duct made of poly that we cut 2" holes into approx. every 3'. The duct is suspended about 21" from the ground, just barely blocking the top of the lower vents. The boxes are sealed, and originally the bottom barrel or burn chamber at that time had a 1" ceramic blanket wrapped around it to trap the hot air inside the bottom barrel. Which increased our burn time from 2 hours to 8 hours, oh yeah fuckin awesome... but... our output heat from the furnace was about 80 degrees... WTF>>> The ceramic blanket increased our burn time, but removed half the needed heat per stove for the greenhouse. So, off with the blanket, temps jumped to 120 or so. Then we threw a brick in front of the 2" pipe that is connected to a 74 cfm draft blower, to diffuse the air and woo hoo.... 168 degree output temp. Nice. Burn times are still to be determined since we haven't had both stoves running at the same time, hopefully the t-stats will cycle them off/on, and we'll get our burn times that way. The North stove has a cement board baffle that runs in between the upper and lower barrels. The return air is then forced past the bottom barrel, through a 4" gap, then past the top barrel before leaving to the greenhouse. Output temps were about the same, however, the front of the bottom barrel ran about 200 degrees cooler. whew. Testing with both stoves tomorrow.
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Wow, you folks are really able to DIY pretty much everything. I'm impressed.
Oh! have you ever heard of tree collards before? I never did until yesterday, now I've gotta have me a tree collard.
Oh! have you ever heard of tree collards before? I never did until yesterday, now I've gotta have me a tree collard.
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Tree Collards are much like regular collard greens except that they are 5-6 feet tall with purple-tinted leaves growing up a single tall stalk. They are definitely perennial in zones 8-10, maybe in zone 7, and may overwinter in other areas depending on the conditions. In colder zones, if you have established plants, you could try taking cuttings as winter begins and rooting them indoors for planting out the following spring. (We don't know if this will work!)
Their history and biological identity seem to be shrouded in mystery, but they are reputed to come from Africa and have been preserved and passed on within African-American communities in this country. They do not normally flower or make seed, and when they do, the seed does not breed true. Instead propagation is by cuttings, which are passed along from gardener to gardener. Tree collard greens are tender and delicious in cool weather, so they are a good choice for a low-maintenance winter vegetable in mild climates. (They're pretty good in warm weather also.) We've grown these wonderful plants in our research gardens for decades. Collard leaves are rich in calcium (226 mg per cup, cooked), vitamins B1, B2, B9, and C (which may be leached by cooking, however), as well as beta-carotene (pro-vitamin A). They are high in soluble fiber and contain multiple nutrients with potent anti-cancer properties: diindolylmethane, sulforaphane and selenium. Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley have recently discovered that 3,3'-Diindolylmethane in Brassica vegetables such as collard greens is a potent modulator of the innate immune response system with potent anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-cancer activity.
by Growing Your Greens an informational u-tube video on growing Tree Collards in Northern California.
Their history and biological identity seem to be shrouded in mystery, but they are reputed to come from Africa and have been preserved and passed on within African-American communities in this country. They do not normally flower or make seed, and when they do, the seed does not breed true. Instead propagation is by cuttings, which are passed along from gardener to gardener. Tree collard greens are tender and delicious in cool weather, so they are a good choice for a low-maintenance winter vegetable in mild climates. (They're pretty good in warm weather also.) We've grown these wonderful plants in our research gardens for decades. Collard leaves are rich in calcium (226 mg per cup, cooked), vitamins B1, B2, B9, and C (which may be leached by cooking, however), as well as beta-carotene (pro-vitamin A). They are high in soluble fiber and contain multiple nutrients with potent anti-cancer properties: diindolylmethane, sulforaphane and selenium. Researchers at the University of California at Berkeley have recently discovered that 3,3'-Diindolylmethane in Brassica vegetables such as collard greens is a potent modulator of the innate immune response system with potent anti-viral, anti-bacterial and anti-cancer activity.
by Growing Your Greens an informational u-tube video on growing Tree Collards in Northern California.
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Thanks for the DIY prop. and no we hadn't heard of Tree Collards until today. Sounds like a good hit to us. Cuts are available on the net, 3 for 16 bucks plus 5 dollars shipping, cuts come unrooted and are not guaranteed.
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