Nomads Landing 2013 Season

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Question for any O2 heads out there. In past years we have problems with condensation forming on the interior roof of the greenhouse... the sun comes out, warms and loosens the plastic, and then the breezes and winds, which whip that plastic up and down, sending condensation droplets all over the place, like a damn rain forrest. So. Would a positve pressure exhuast systmem be more beneficial than a negative one in this situation? They said at Oaksterdam that negative pressure (I know... a vacuum) keeps the RH by the walls and ceilings, while a positive pressure keeps the RH distributed more evenly throughout, also closer to your ladies.
 
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Sounds like the fishroom at Petschmo's headquarters. In fact, so much water would condense on that visqueen that my favorite trick was to get a bagged whatever (whatever kinda fish was bagged at the moment), wait for someone to forget where they were, throw it UP into the ceiling and watch it RAIN. HUNDREDS of gallons of water would rain down!

In any event, in a GH I don't know how to alleviate that problem, I'd be hanging something for the water to wick onto, leading to the ground. I have no idea how positive or negative pressure might affect where humidity actually goes.
 
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Sounds like the fishroom at Petschmo's headquarters. In fact, so much water would condense on that visqueen that my favorite trick was to get a bagged whatever (whatever kinda fish was bagged at the moment), wait for someone to forget where they were, throw it UP into the ceiling and watch it RAIN. HUNDREDS of gallons of water would rain down!

In any event, in a GH I don't know how to alleviate that problem, I'd be hanging something for the water to wick onto, leading to the ground. I have no idea how positive or negative pressure might affect where humidity actually goes.


Thanks Sea, that actually leads me to something else I forgot to mention, that the plastic we got wasn't the anti condensation plastic, unfortunately. We have it on the mother house. Those anti condensation films are actually just impregnated with vegtable diglyceride (thanks for doin the homework on that one BottleKap.). What does all this mean? It is what keeps the water moving along the film, instead of just chillin with the homies. With that note our only option so far is to keep it from forming on the ceiling in the first place. Univ. Cornell, and the ACME Climate Control papers recommend heating your air, therefore increasing the air's ability to hold water, allow it to absorb some RH, then exhaust. Next we bring in fresh air again, this time it is cooler less humid air from the outside. Now we repeat the process, of heating, absorbing, exhausting, and then replenishing, until we reach approx. 50% RH. Our current active venting is still missing a shutter motor. If we reverse to pressurize we can use the fan's suction to open it's shutter, and the pressure of the fresh air entering the greenhouse will theoretically force the shutter open at the opposite end.
 
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Well let's hope that plan of action works for you, otherwise I'll be watching for pix of everyone up on ladders taping wicks to the ceiling (leading to collection barrels, of course).
 
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Well let's hope that plan of action works for you, otherwise I'll be watching for pix of everyone up on ladders taping wicks to the ceiling (leading to collection barrels, of course).
ROFLMAO... Last year we only lost about 2 lbs to mold all together. After we increased our passive lower venting to encompass the entire length of both sides. Prior to, we were about oh, 20% of that post venting capacity... and oh man... 15 elbows all went to oil. Purple Crack, the whole darn thing molded out except for a oz. or so... it was really lame.
Speaking of collection barrels, Spencer hopes that (kinda wierd talking in third person) to have a gutter design to go along with a double layer poly film roof (anti-condensing) ;^) that is removable, for full sun.
 
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Update 5-6-13 1 of 2

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The PVC is marked at 12" intervals.
Here we go... Bed 1 - Blue Dream


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Bed 2 Sensi Star


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Bed 3 Blue Dream


4SensiStar

Bed 4 Sensi Star

5SourDiesel

Bed 5 Sour Diesel

6Pineappleexpress

Bed 6 Pineapple Express

7Pineappleexpress

Bed 7 Pineapple Express


8Ogre

Bed 8 Ogre

9UKCheese

Bed 9 U.K. Cheese

10SourTsunami

Bed 10 Sour Tsunami

11Maui

Bed 11 Maui


12SoHumPurps

Bed 12 So Hum Purps

13OGKush

Bed 13 OG Kush

14BrandysSoHumOGKush

Bed 14 Brandy's So Hum OG Kush


15AmericanCrippler

Bed 15 American Crippler - Anyone know if this strain used to be called Paraplegic?
16BlackberryKush

Bed 16 Blackberry Kush


17CheeseQuake5050

Bed 17 Cheese Quake 50/50 pheno


18GranddaddyPurple

Bed 18 Granddaddy Purple


19GarbervillesTrueKind

Potter 19 Garberville's True Kind


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Potter 20 ATF
 
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UPDATE 5-6-13 2 of 2

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Potter 21 Cherry AK-47



22SensiStar

Potter 22 Sensi Star


23Maui

Potter 23 Maui


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Greenhouse shot from the North. Got the ground fabric down, to help, with dust, humidity, and airflow, plus it's cool to be able to run around in your socks. Dust was the biggest reason though. Looks way cool, and super clean, swept and mopped for quite awhile for pic prep. lol...

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New pump for the rez, 740 gph with max psi of 50. Total head 180 ft. But man it's a power sucker. Still plumbing it in, got the output good to go.


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Shot from the south. update: So we have had to do fires every night except for 5/5 and tonight 5/6, other than that outdoor temps are below 40'. Our coldest night was 25'. The heaters are running at 1/2 the amount of previous consumption, and unlike before we were only able to increase temps +20, now > +30'F, and could go way more... Fuck yeah. Keeping night temps between 56 - 59' F. Also we are light washing the plants every evening before lights out about 10:00 or so.


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A blooming Asiatic Lily in the Moma house.



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Here is the x spray pattern facing away from the plant, without the sand the pattern is not so nearly spread. The corners remain dry, and so will the soil underneath if this was to continue, no good.


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This is the spray square pattern, total bed coverage, maybe a little close to the stalk still. But this will aid in keeping the microlife in full bloom. Also, some of our ladies are cuts, and their roots will grow horizontally until they hit the bed then down to follow the water. The sand is great, disperses the water evenly to the soil beneath, drains fast minimizing evaporation, as well as inhospitable for pests to lay eggs in. Notice the cut outs in the bottom of the cage for plant access... Love it.


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Here is the other new pup Anoatubby. He is just like his dad.


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Performed some much needed topping this week.


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Our 100' feet of hose was to much for the holder had to add a rod for support. Got the mylar back up on the North, and plumbed from the pump to the manifold. We had to take the filter out, because of sand. Those emitters are still rockin, maybe we will just back-flush more often.



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Water moisture indicator on a bed with the square spray pattern, about an hour after. We ran the irrigation for 20 minutes, or about 6 gallons per girl. A bit too much. On the next water we'll try 15 minutes, or 4.5 gallons each girl.

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Ahh the green of the orchard, mmm, picnic time.


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Veggies from tomates, to soy beans, to lettuce.

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Veggie beds and strawberry spiral


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Veggie beds in progress of being built.

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Couldn't keep lil black, but they gave us another pup from the litter. This is Piomingo.

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Moma House East



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Moma House West
 
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What a crew you folks make! It really looks like you're all working hard to do this right and do it UP. I love the fork in the one pot, because I like to say "Stick a fork in me, I'm DONE!"

How come you couldn't keep the one pup?
 
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What a crew you folks make! It really looks like you're all working hard to do this right and do it UP. I love the fork in the one pot, because I like to say "Stick a fork in me, I'm DONE!"

How come you couldn't keep the one pup?

LOL... Always issues... but yeah we have got some real good folks up here (Spencer, Dia, Bottle Kap, Francie, Stuart, and Linda) it's not a living style for everyone, so as you can imagine we have had a lot come and go. The hours are extremely long, and the meds just like the animals, and grains, etc... don't accept vacations, or sick days, or don't care if you don't have the money for the gas... lol...
Thanks Sea... Your compliments are much heart felt and sincere. We greatly appreciate hearing them, especially from mentors such as yourself. And if your ever North of Shasta, come by for a visit.

We really pride ourself on being able to grow, and supply total care for extremely high quality cannabis medicine full of fragrance, taste, smoothness, and highs with character. We love it, and dedicate most of our time to improve our quality, hunting out the unique or bubonic chronic super dank strains, while working towards using less resources to do so.

Ahh, the fork, yep, the fork meant just that. That particular Sensi Star girl, is a runt from a twin that came from single seed, so to the potter for her.

And the pup Lil Black, well Spencer (I in third, lol...) was changing the oil on the well genny, while in the distance I heard a pup barking that was too close to be at someone else's place. Sure enough about a 1/2 mile behind us in the Juniper woodlands, there was Lil Black with his leash caught on a lower branch of a juniper. Anyways, the owner's wanted that pup as a keeper, but offered one of the other 2 they had left. Gladly of course ;^)
 
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Nice of you to post the spray pattern also. And Score!, you posted the site mrdrip.com which has an inexpensive gallon meter to put on a hose. Exxxxactly what i've been looking for to make mixing in my dwc system easier. Thanks again ;-}
 
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Nice of you to post the spray pattern also. And Score!, you posted the site mrdrip.com which has an inexpensive gallon meter to put on a hose. Exxxxactly what i've been looking for to make mixing in my dwc system easier. Thanks again ;-}

No problem, so very glad to be able to help. Mr. Drip is a small little company (we like to support), and their orders to seem to take a while to arrive, just FYI, plan ahead. On the other hand there is a slightly larger company but yet still small called Drip Depot. www.dripdepot.com They have a nice selection, really cool folks, orders arrived quickly and accurately, plus they sent two lollipops with the shipping receipts.
 
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Question for any O2 heads out there. In past years we have problems with condensation forming on the interior roof of the greenhouse... the sun comes out, warms and loosens the plastic, and then the breezes and winds, which whip that plastic up and down, sending condensation droplets all over the place, like a damn rain forrest. So. Would a positve pressure exhuast systmem be more beneficial than a negative one in this situation? They said at Oaksterdam that negative pressure (I know... a vacuum) keeps the RH by the walls and ceilings, while a positive pressure keeps the RH distributed more evenly throughout, also closer to your ladies.

Appears negative pressure.
 
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Nomads Landing Update 5-12
This week we did some more topping on ladies whom we hadn' t for awhile, shooting for around 8 -12 tops, strain dependent. We had to add a top cage this week to quite a few ladies, and next week it looks like both Sour Diesel, and Sour Tsunami will be ready for one side of the second stage of caging. Gorrilla tape was used to tape the seams of the ground cover in order to make it easier to sweep and mop as well as not trip on when your not paying attention. There was no need for fires this past week, we were in the 40's + every night. However, I can see that is changing as of tomorrow. lol... The chicks are getting big, and we are ready to get them out of the moma house and into the tractor for them. Dia has been piecing that project together. Our days this week were around the high 70's, but if the greenhouse doesn't get opened up by say 9 AM or so, it hits 100 degrees real fast. Spraying water on the ground cover, every 10 minutes or so drops the temps about 2 degrees a spray. Finished the irrigation for the potters. The water pump now has it's float, totally plumbed and ready to irrigate some teas. The pressure tanks were hooked back up, nice much less sand coming up from the well due to less cycling with the tanks. Noticed some mite damage on the Blue Dreams lower leaves, hand brushed, sprayed with high pressure water, and neemed with peppermint soap. No worries, it's a grower's life. Back down to the original crew now, Just Dia and I (Spencer), BottleKap, and Francie. That's hill life. lol... We have plotted the location of this years light dep, and we will be getting on that stucture after I am done with jury duty this coming week, here's your $5. This last week was full of cloud cover and rain, so we only had to water once this week, adjusted to 4 gallons per plant based on previous watering, and wouldn't ya know it. That was enough only for the ladies that were under the 4' mark, the others want more, so tomorrow it is. Getting ready to top dress soon. Also we will be spiking this year. Just got done chatting with the Rev, and recamended we use spikes about 6" deep and the diameter of a nickel, he feels it is very important to drip water onto the spikes for the first few weeks to encourage root growth in that direction. The spikes are to be placed at the projected drip line, so perhaps the corners. And only a few per bed should be needed so we'll do 4 one in each corner.​
Here is this weeks growth, remember each line is a foot, and the center counts too.​
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Bed 1 Blue Dream

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Bed 2 Sensi Star (Sat. Dom. w/ hvy double serration no smell Pheno)

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Bed 3 Blue Dream

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Bed 4 Sensi Star (Ind. Dom w/ light double serration super stank Pheno)

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Bed 5 Sour Diesel

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Bed 6 Pineapple Express

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Bed 7 Pineapple Express

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Bed 8 Ogre

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Bed 9 U.K. Cheese

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Bed 10 Sour Tsunami

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Bed 11 Maui

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Bed 12 Humboldt Purps

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Bed 13 O.G. Kush

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Bed 14 Brandy's So Hum OG Kush

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Bed 15 American Crippler

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Bed 16 Blackberry Kush

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Bed 17 Cheese Quake (50/50 pheno)

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Bed 18 GDP

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Garberville's True Kind

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Sensi Star (=Sat/Ind, medium double serration, medium smell)
 
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Nomads Landing Update 5-12 pt.2
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Cherry AK-47

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ATF

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Maui

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Progression view from the south

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Finished plumbing in the pump, installed the float. mmm, mmm... ready for tea.

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Pregression shot from the north.

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The orchard,

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Had to cut out some finger room for the inside of the door handle, was a little cramped, now oh so good.

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Finished the irrigation for the potters, two stakes ea. with adjusters.

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The adjusters are set at about 50%

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Dia gathering wood and performing the layout for the chicken tractor.

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Got the tanks hooked back up, we run the system at a 40-60 pressure range, to reach the vegetables the water has to travel about 700 feet. The big tank is actually a CHP tank from the cotton wood scales on the 5.

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Here is a shot of the vegetables, some lettuce, tomatoes, turnips, and corn over here.

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Some taters over on the left in the mulched bed, and Sierra Strawberries in the spiral on the right.

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Buckwheat coming up, behind ole man Rick the scarecrow.

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More taters, Dia is Irish ya know. lol...

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Here is our "I need water" indicator, lower leaves have dropped,(1 of 3)

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tops are still up (2 of 3),

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verified, the lower leaf drop, while tops are up seems to work pretty good. (3 of 3).
 
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Nomads Landing Update 5-19
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Sorry yall for being so late with this post, there was some disagreements with the previous pics as far as quality and the measuring stick detracting from the girls. This isn't just for us, so what do ya think? We have had fires oh 5 out of the last 7 days, temps mainly in the mid 30's with a night or two at 42 Degrees (nights of rest for BottleKap and Spencer). As Lazy stated on 2013 Outdoor Grow thread, the temps have also cooled down during the day. In the greenhouse we averaged mid to high 70's to one day at 94. Which has also greened our new growth back up. In the beginning of the week what we believe to be an S deficiency was all over the place, by later in the week it got tough to find some good samples for the pics. I knew I should have snapped some shots when we saw it. That's the way it goes. We also made bed number markers, and name tags for the ladies. the new layout this year makes it more difficult to keep track of bed numbers. We added a third furring strip to the girls allowing us not to "Light Wash" anymore. Everyday the CFL gets moved to the next spot, therefore everyspot should receive light at the minimum of every third day. We know cutting it close, but is appears to be working just fine, plus the lights will be coming down on June 1st. Spent a lot of time watering the vegetables, harvesting worms, and collecting compost materials which includes sifting out the bio-char from gray ash. Dia has been giving the girls foliar sprays of Maxicrop Seaweed to help with the cold nights, as well as continuing with the carefully applied neem sprays. On the other hand, we have pressurized water this year allowing for full application of a new technique for us in the war on mites. lol... High pressure water spray, just like you were spraying off aphids which works, diligence counts here. However, besides making it a pain in the butt to want to stick around, it removes the dirt from the foliage which offers the mites cover, and is not so hospitable for predators. Finally, just blasting those little fuckers off, pounding them to death, knocking eggs off, and disrupting the birth cycle is all pluses in our book, and no pesticides to do it. And the girls finally received their first compost tea, the reservoir and LSP pump worked great, we flushed the lines first, and smooth runnings.

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Blue Dream notice the bitchen marker tags, we should wood burn some, these were all done on the fly.

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Sensi Star

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Blue Dream

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Sensi Star

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Sour Diesel

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Pineapple Express

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Pineapple Express

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Ogre

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UK Cheese

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Sour Tsunami

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Maui

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Humboldt Purps

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OG Kush

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Brandy's Humboldt OG Kush

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American Crippler

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Blackberry Kush

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Cheese Quake (50/50) Subby says this pheno is too watered down for him; however, for us it is the best of both worlds. We grew out the Querkle dom. pheno last year as well which tasted really good, but in our opinion lacked the character high of the cheese. We then picked up some dank Cheese dom. pheno from the 530 Collective, which again was mighty tasty, and a good high, but lacked the sophistication of the Querkle. Ultimately we thought the 50/50 pheno just rocked in taste, smell, quality of high in both flower and hash forms, unlike the Cherry AK-47 which we grow strictly for it's pain relieving abilities in hash form only.

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Grand Daddy Purple

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Garberville's True Kind

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ATF
 
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CHERRY AK-47 ( Mislabeled in previous entries... apologies)

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SENSI STAR (Runt of twins)

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Maui (deficient)

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Here is our attempt to take a weekly shot of the same branch throughout the grow, we hope our tripod will make it high enough. lol... We chose to shoot American Crippler, a local strain, not much info out on her, and whew, she can be omni-potent.

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Here is you can see the start of a S def. The new leaves are very thin, yellowing from the apex out, effecting only the new growth of the entire plant. There is plenty of sulpher in the beds, but we had some days where the greenhouse reached 104 degrees. It cooled down for a while, and the deficiency started to fade. This shot was taken late in the week and I actually had a hard time finding a good example after the cooling period. It usually hits us, with high heat and periods of heavy growth.

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Here you can see the 45 degrees in the branching at the nodes from the main stems through the 1st cage. We do this for support to help keep those joints together when the weight comes, and so does the twist and flop. Also most of the foliage is removed from below vent level allowing adequate airflow into the plant. And boy do these ladies really get moving when the winds pick up... fine by us, building strong stems and stalks which they will need later, again for support.

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Here you can see between the first and second cage the branch takes a whole new direction. Bush time. Before the entire 2nd cage gets added we will totally clear out the first cage for increased air flow. Help keep mold at bay, and make sure those girls can breathe.

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This is what it ends up looking like. Gets those ladies down a bit, adds light to the interior growth, as well as making the bush formation with the 90 degree branch angle. A majority of these ladies may need an additional cage by flower time.
In the end floral tape kicks ass.

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When the res was flat on the crate, there was about 10 gallons left as residual in the res. We put it on tilt on that got us to about the 5 gallon mark as you can see the mark above. Added a little plumbing here and got it down to about 1 1/4 gallons, we can live with that. The water will evaporate, and we will sweep up the residual powder from the compost tea, then it can either be a topping for a couple of girls, or added to the compost piles and worm bins.

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Ahh, This is a leaf on the Blue Dream in bed 1. You can see the heavy might damage on the finger that is twisted over for viewing. Yikes. Nah, not really. The longer we grow we don't run in to less problems per say, but we can handle them much quicker and fairly effectively... always learning you know. The significant thing about this pic though is that 24 hrs before it was covered with mites. In fact BottleKap says "Looks like there is Epsom Salts on the underside of that leaf?" I replied "Eggs, brother, eggs." Our psi rating from the well is 40-60. We use one of those garden hose nozzles with the various sprays. I believe we use the "flat" setting for this. We then spray the shit out of the girls. Yep... freaks most folks out, we do it when they are young adults, toughens up a bit in the early stages. If you spray a leaf with your hand behind it at this pressure it will seriously damage the tissue, usually we use plyboard about 3' away, but here the cages work great at a 18" - 2' distance. This leaf examined up close with a 40x showed no signs of adult mites or eggs. Woo hoo, lovin it. A few more high psi water spray applications and then we will start backing off.

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Here is a shot from the North, that is one of our neighbors over for a visit, he likes to see the progress especially this year.

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View from the south, the rain we have had off and on has helped keep the film free from dust and debris.
Note the 3 furring strips vertically on each bed, these are used to rotate the cfl around nightly to help ensure light saturation without manually "light washing". BTW. Still loving the ground cover, swept it later that evening.

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The orchard is looking better every week. Even though we are still really years out.

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The rogue red delicious... This tree is at the bottom of a 5' elevation drop, and shaded in the late afternoon by the Junipers to the West (in the background here), allowing the orchard grass to really kick in.

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A small little onion bed from a bag of onions.

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Here is a veggie garden shot, potatoes up from, corn and tomatoes in the rear. We fell asleep one night, and forgot to cover the corn and tomatoes with the Agribon, and jumped up about 3:00 Am. We got them all covered, but most still took a hard hit. Shit, in the hour or so it's taken to do this post a half inch of snow has fallen.

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Here is Neemo and our leak catching system, parts got to get real bad around here before replacing them, and we are kinda at the end of our budget for this year. You can also see another compost bin has been built at the veg garden there in the back right.
 
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compost crops, lambs quarter

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stinging nettle

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alfalfa

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We started our 12 cu ft. worm bin this week, added about a pound that we took out of our Can-O-Worms for population control. The bin in front is for presoaking/precomposting before feeding it to the worms. This bin is full of wild plants, orchard grass, lambs quarter, ganja stems from last year, and horse manure. mmm-mmm, good.
 
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It's great to be back Sea thanks for the warm welcomes. Our team has gotten a great deal smaller... Dia, Spencer and our boy Lance make up the work force... I think we are only 2 months behind... lol. that's the way it goes. More for next years list. Well last load for the fires now @ 4am and we are off to bed. Greenhouse is at 55'F, outside temp is 35'F. Night all.
 

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