The Cube

eastcoastled said:

I appreciate the info very much, definitely things that you don't hear much about on forums. Unfortuneately, i culled that male, my most vigorous plant out of the bunch. Sounds like i made a mistake not seeing him through/giving him enough time.

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Maybe not. I know I read somewhere by a reputable breeder that he never chose males that revealed themselves quickly. He gave plausible reasoning behind it.

Imo a lot in picking a male is luck or a lot of testing because most of the traits/genes will be recessive and youll never know when theyll reveal themselves during a cross.

Your x female maybe short and a slow grower.. so you wanna add some vigor from your y male. Yet a couple of his recessive genes is he stretches and doesn't stack well. Yet that male showed no signs of either. Crapshoot

anthonij207 said:

The Cube week 2. Ive never had frostier at this point. The smell is just nuts too. Im diggin this gal big time. And yup thanks smurf. Good info man.View attachment 666683

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That is very frosty for 2 weeks in.

SimplyCmplex said:

Maybe not. I know I read somewhere by a reputable breeder that he never chose males that revealed themselves quickly. He gave plausible reasoning behind it.

Imo a lot in picking a male is luck or a lot of testing because most of the traits/genes will be recessive and youll never know when theyll reveal themselves during a cross.

Your x female maybe short and a slow grower.. so you wanna add some vigor from your y male. Yet a couple of his recessive genes is he stretches and doesn't stack well. Yet that male showed no signs of either. Crapshoot

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Yeah, most of what i have read agrees with what you said, and makes perfect sense. I just will always wonder "what if" since i didn't give him an honest run. I know i probably made the right move, but he looked so good early on!

eastcoastled said:

Yeah, most of what i have read agrees with what you said, and makes perfect sense. I just will always wonder "what if" since i didn't give him an honest run. I know i probably made the right move, but he looked so good early on!

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Lol...I was trying to ease the pain by downplaying it a bit. Here *hands you the alcohol* you prefer the stinging sensation.

SimplyCmplex said:

Maybe not. I know I read somewhere by a reputable breeder that he never chose males that revealed themselves quickly. He gave plausible reasoning behind it.

Imo a lot in picking a male is luck or a lot of testing because most of the traits/genes will be recessive and youll never know when theyll reveal themselves during a cross.

Your x female maybe short and a slow grower.. so you wanna add some vigor from your y male. Yet a couple of his recessive genes is he stretches and doesn't stack well. Yet that male showed no signs of either. Crapshoot

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The theory behind choosing males that show sex later is because "hemp" or "fiber" type (low in thc) varieties mature faster than "drug" type (high in thc) varieties.... so choosing a male that takes longer to show sex is suppose to give a better chance of passing along high thc traits.... supposedly the only reason to choose a male that shows sex early is to shorten flowering time of the offspring.... so depending on what traits you're looking for your male to pass along to offspring, depends on what you want to keep......hemp is tall (6'-15'), limbless and fiberous with poor floral clusters has, it flowers quickly, has high cbd and low thc and is often monoceious.... ruderalis or autoflower is short (6"-24") and has high cbd and low thc flowering is triggered by age rather than photoperiod, with life cycle of about *10 wks (*pure ruderalis not hybrid)..... indica is short (3'-6'), has high thc, and low to moderate cbd, short branches with dense, round floral clusters, 6-8 wk flower time....sativa is tall (up to 20'), has high thc and little to no cbd, long branches with sparse, elongated floral clusters, 12-24 wk flower time..........then hybrids of any and every thing in between........... if the theory that sex showing early indicates hemp varitey, then it may not be the best candidate for passing along high thc traits to the offspring but it could be a good choice to reduce flowering time of offspring and could also pass along high cbd and strong fiber traits as well......

dat130ysmurf said:

The theory behind choosing males that show sex later is because "hemp" or "fiber" type (low in thc) varieties mature faster than "drug" type (high in thc) varieties.... so choosing a male that takes longer to show sex is suppose to give a better chance of passing along high thc traits.... supposedly the only reason to choose a male that shows sex early is to shorten flowering time of the offspring.... so depending on what traits you're looking for your male to pass along to offspring, depends on what you want to keep......hemp is tall (6'-15'), limbless and fiberous with poor floral clusters has, it flowers quickly, has high cbd and low thc and is often monoceious.... ruderalis or autoflower is short (6"-24") and has high cbd and low thc flowering is triggered by age rather than photoperiod, with life cycle of about *10 wks (*pure ruderalis not hybrid)..... indica is short (3'-6'), has high thc, and low to moderate cbd, short branches with dense, round floral clusters, 6-8 wk flower time....sativa is tall (up to 20'), has high thc and little to no cbd, long branches with sparse, elongated floral clusters, 12-24 wk flower time..........then hybrids of any and every thing in between........... if the theory that sex showing early indicates hemp varitey, then it may not be the best candidate for passing along high thc traits to the offspring but it could be a good choice to reduce flowering time of offspring and could also pass along high cbd and strong fiber traits as well......

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Good info...Crystal clear.

dat130ysmurf said:

The theory behind choosing males that show sex later is because "hemp" or "fiber" type (low in thc) varieties mature faster than "drug" type (high in thc) varieties.... so choosing a male that takes longer to show sex is suppose to give a better chance of passing along high thc traits.... supposedly the only reason to choose a male that shows sex early is to shorten flowering time of the offspring.... so depending on what traits you're looking for your male to pass along to offspring, depends on what you want to keep......hemp is tall (6'-15'), limbless and fiberous with poor floral clusters has, it flowers quickly, has high cbd and low thc and is often monoceious.... ruderalis or autoflower is short (6"-24") and has high cbd and low thc flowering is triggered by age rather than photoperiod, with life cycle of about *10 wks (*pure ruderalis not hybrid)..... indica is short (3'-6'), has high thc, and low to moderate cbd, short branches with dense, round floral clusters, 6-8 wk flower time....sativa is tall (up to 20'), has high thc and little to no cbd, long branches with sparse, elongated floral clusters, 12-24 wk flower time..........then hybrids of any and every thing in between........... if the theory that sex showing early indicates hemp varitey, then it may not be the best candidate for passing along high thc traits to the offspring but it could be a good choice to reduce flowering time of offspring and could also pass along high cbd and strong fiber traits as well......

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Awesome, just awesome info!! wish i could like this post multiple times!

anthonij207 said:

The Cube week 2. Ive never had frostier at this point. The smell is just nuts too. Im diggin this gal big time. And yup thanks smurf. Good info man.View attachment 666683

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Damn these beans are living up to their name!
How are they looking?

The cube day 24 i believe. Such a good smell coming off this gal

anthonij207 said:

The cube day 24 i believe. Such a good smell coming off this galView attachment 667769

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God almighty! Day 24 with those kind of trichs! Going to be fucking killer!

Ill try to get some better pics. These do em no justice. The frostiest ive ever grown.

Could have saved the male and made a 5th backcross.

The cube day 42

jaybodankly said:

Could have saved the male and made a 5th backcross.

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I saved a couple males

excellent.

eastcoastled said:

Anyone else have males from the cube auto flower on them? I have had two males out of 5 seeds popped so far, and both auto flowered. The first was the most vigorous of the bunch ,and at about 35-40 days of 18/6 he started flowering. I pinched them all off, hoping it was stress or something, but more came back in a week. I finally killed him off when i found one about to explode, and yep it was full of pollen. The second one just started showing male clusters now, about 3 weeks later, but this one has been under some stress. Anyway i have seen another report from someone with the same issue. With all the packs shown on this site, someone else must be growing them? Any issues?

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Hi everybody... new here but not new to exotic gear. Been running a bunch of different varieties for about 2 years now.
Started with Kimbo and ran that a bunch... currently running
Labyrinth just popped 10 of 10 seeds.

To answer your question about auto males from the Cube... I've ran a bunch of the Starfighter crosses and the males sometimes will go to flower in VEG on me but not all and only a few.
I just did The Future and got a shit ton of males out of 10 like 7 males. One of them I culled in VEG he was showing full on balls in 20/4.
I personally don't "think" its any AUTO genetics... I could be wrong but usually REG males show earlier and try and hide it and try and LOOK like a fem.. until the ball sack is ready to open. I've actually had that happen in VEG. No harm no foul cause no flowers. My point I'm trying to make... its just the Cannabis plant trying hard to reproduce... the longer you hold that off the more impatient they get.
I usually don't VEG too long with any of Exotic gear... by not too long 30-40 days tops after pop as soon as I can sex the females they go into flower after 12-15" tall. I have a short ceiling. Males usually showing already and get culled. Sometimes I get it wrong and put a immature male in the flower room.. the ladies get excited, then after a few days cull. Seems the ladies get frostier with a male around and the smells are better too. Not recommended....

I'm not a breeder so all I want is flowers. I like all the Starfighter crosses I've ran so far...

My normal run is a Startfighter cross.. and Chemdog ... subbed in Chemdog for Kimbo middle of last year. Didn't take clones but have more packs!

nocollins2k said:

I guess what Im Getting at is that exotic is cool, but I would rather have the stock from the originator, but to each his own meh.:cool:

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So this is an Exotic Seeds forum and you're in here trying to talk up another breeder?? You could start your own forum for your favorite breeder, that'd be righteous! just sayin....

anthonij207 said:

Alien was the originator. Anyways, these cubes are looking like theyre gonna be some sweet ladies. Does anyone know if starfighter is mold/mildew resistant? Im trying to figure out my outdoor.

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My experience is medium on the PM/Mold issues... I ALWAYS spray my VEG plants with a Horsetail Fern tea (I'm organic). That will kill the spores and keep you out of trouble but you still need a lot of air movement/exchange. There's no sub for fans ....