Logistics Of A Small Timer Moving To Colorado?

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LocalGrowGuy

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Ok but you said fuck the people who ship out of state. So fuck me if I want to a make very small amount of money so that I can live where I want to live and meet my basic needs? We can't go to Colorado and grow high quality cannabis that people would want to buy because the market is monopolized by the facade you call legality. I can't comment on commercial operations...I've never been a part of one and don't plan to be. That situation comes with the territory of something with lots of earning potential regardless though. Even if it were legal across the board, there would be commercial operations making the same mistakes you've mentioned.
I think he's saying 'Fuck you to the people who ship out of state' as in the people sending shit from colorado to the rest of the world. I don't think he's saying 'fuck you' as a small time grower.

Or are you saying you ship marijuana across state lines? Are you saying that we should ignore cash croppers shipping out of state, because there are bigger fish to fry? Can you please clarify for the audience if you are in a medical state or not?
 
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I think he's saying 'Fuck you to the people who ship out of state' as in the people sending shit from colorado to the rest of the world. I don't think he's saying 'fuck you' as a small time grower.

Or are you saying you ship marijuana across state lines? Are you saying that we should ignore cash croppers shipping out of state, because there are bigger fish to fry? Can you please clarify for the audience if you are in a medical state or not?
I said in the first line of this post I'm in an illegal state. If someone is doing something small like 10-15 plants and it's being shipped to another state for a small group of people then yes I say ignore them. Who does that hurt? Not like anyone's getting rich off that. I will stand by that 100%. I don't support wasting resources on pursuing people who have a tiny little grow relative to what the real focus should be on.
 
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I said in the first line of this post I'm in an illegal state. If someone is doing something small like 10-15 plants and it's being shipped to another state for a small group of people then yes I say ignore them. Who does that hurt? Not like anyone's getting rich off that. I will stand by that 100%. I don't support wasting resources on pursuing people who have a tiny little grow relative to what the real focus should be on.
I don't have a problem with cash croppers but sending shit in the mail is one of the reason's for a crackdown on the grey and black markets in Colorado. While you personally might not affect me personally, the practice of shipping pot across state lines is problematic, short and long term, for both recipient and sender, in multiple jurisdictions. I don't like the increase in knock and talks, the increase in arrests for drugged driving, the introduction of 'drug recognition experts' in the legal community, and all of this is caused in part by illicit sales and manufacturing. But your post is about growing in an illegal state, then shipping to another illegal state. I don't care to get into those specifics as they don't apply to me and I don't want to come across as being judgy, but I agree with you in general.
 
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Your opening statement is pretty hilarious, as are some of the responses-- and both say plenty about the inhabitants of this site. No one in Colorado gives a fuck about 'competition' from illegal growers moving to the state, except the few remaining local black market scammers, and they are a dying breed. We're growing our own out here, legally for the most part, many bending the rules, but the glory days of bulk black market growing are gone, and for the most part that's been accepted and welcomed, for good reason. What remains are people breaking the law by selling weed out of state, and we're happy to shut them down, because they are fucking up the structure of legal growing we created for ourselves, the state residents. Someone wants to grow and divert pounds out of state? That's a criminal operation, with all the attendant risks to the public-- and it deserves to get busted. They're not 'competion' for what we're doing here-- they're criminals. They don't care about growing for old dying patients who need cannabis, they don't care about growing for kids who have horrible seizures, they don't care about our rights as citizens under the constitution-- they care about making money, pure and simple. If they just wanted to grow weed, they could do that legally, with no risk, and no backlash. No-- they want to make money for themselves, and by doing so risk everything special we worked and fought for. Fuck those people.

The air must be so fresh from atop your high horse. Sing your song to the folks who kept genetics alive through prohibition and catch a punch in the mouth. If not for several generations of criminals risking their freedom to preserve these genetics you wouldn't have cannabis worth growing unless you yourself were a skilled breeder.
 
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I've lived in a state with harsh penalties on cultivating cannabis for 13 years. I'm willing to take risks, but want to minimize risk and learn what that risk is before making the move. From what I've read, small time growers in Colorado don't see trouble so long as they stay private and take the necessary precautions.

I plan to run 7,500 watts of LED and approximately 7,000-8,000 watts of equipment in the basement of a 2,000-3,000 sq. ft. home. That draw would of-course never be maxed out with much of the equipment running >50% of time time (De-humidifier, Humidifier, etc). I'm looking to do 10 plants simply to minimize penalty if caught, but maybe I'm being too cautious.

My questions consist of a few things: Penalties if caught as a non-resident with no card? Would I be drawing too much power? Would more than 10 plants be a non-issue? Good areas to live? Budget is $250k for the house.

If I need to provide more information I'd be happy to. I've always wanted to live in Colorado regardless of the weed laws (even though that's very attractive) and would only have to be illegal for a year so that's factored into my decision making process.

Thanks in advance for any input. I hope to join y'all some time next year.

Come on out, just learn local traffic laws and be courteous or you will draw the ire of every road rager in your vicinity. 250k won't go far anywhere in the metro area, you'd be looking at around 1000sq ft with minimal lawn. Plenty of options outside metro Denver, but it's one of the country's most competitive buyers markets.

As previously mentioned, come with a job or a plan for money. If you have an outlet for your material then you should be good moving it. Starting fresh in this market is unforgiving unless you grow immaculate cannabis, then it's simply challenging and frustrating

With the influx of enforcement dollars there have been a lot of raids in the last month. Dudes with under 8kW should be fine, but more than that is plenty to draw curiosity from local enforcement.
 
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I said in the first line of this post I'm in an illegal state. If someone is doing something small like 10-15 plants and it's being shipped to another state for a small group of people then yes I say ignore them. Who does that hurt? Not like anyone's getting rich off that. I will stand by that 100%. I don't support wasting resources on pursuing people who have a tiny little grow relative to what the real focus should be on.

All of us who have been here in CO for a bit have seen our grow freedoms ratcheted BACK over time because of the influx of folks who don't simply grow for themselves and who think it's no big deal to ship out of state/etc.

Since you asked...THAT's who it hurts. (everyone)

Not that we've ever needed permission....but....
 
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All of us who have been here in CO for a bit have seen our grow freedoms ratcheted BACK over time because of the influx of folks who don't simply grow for themselves and who think it's no big deal to ship out of state/etc.

Since you asked...THAT's who it hurts. (everyone)

Not that we've ever needed permission....but....
Well if for decades someone didnt ship out of state none of what we have puffed for the last 40 years would have been possible. We sure didn't want to Build A Wall when all that great Colombian or Acapulco Gold was coming across federal state lines. And bless the men and women that took the risks to do it.
 
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Very true jumpin. It was all "imported" back in the day from somewhere else and we welcomed every kilo brick...

But ALL growing was illegal then....and no one else's rights were in jeopardy if you played along. Not so today. It may not be too long now before the "Black Market" pot getting across the state line is blamed on home grows. I mean..they've spent the entire period (since 2000) we've had Medical weed here systematically nixxing/reducing plant counts under the same guise....so home growing is likely the next target here. Time will tell. (who listens to them...LOL)
 
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Very true jumpin. It was all "imported" back in the day from somewhere else and we welcomed every kilo brick...

But ALL growing was illegal then....and no one else's rights were in jeopardy if you played along. Not so today. It may not be too long now before the "Black Market" pot getting across the state line is blamed on home grows. I mean..they've spent the entire period (since 2000) we've had Medical weed here systematically nixxing/reducing plant counts under the same guise....so home growing is likely the next target here. Time will tell. (who listens to them...LOL)
I will have to agree with you scoop. Home growing will be /is the target. They pulled the same shit here in AZ back in 010 when we went medical. What happened here is folks passed the prop and with the time line the health n human svcs had and by the time they got their head wrapped around a roll out to comply with state mandates. There wasnt any licensed supply.

So what happened since there werent really any up and running dispo's licensed yet, they made it a rule that anyone with a card of which at the time was 350 $$ to get you could do the 12 plant per person as long as the 1000 ft rule was obeyed.
So a lot of folks got their cards and setup some very elaborate grooms in comm and residential spaces and dropped an enormous amount of dinero to get their ops up and running. I tried to warn the people I was connected with to not get so ahead of themselves and I said the homegrowing rule wouldnt last. And I'll be damned if they once they had all the CHARS and large commercial dispo growsites up, then they took our grow rights away.
No patient here can grow at home and have to purchase from a dispo...... Or you know the other option that a lot of folks are complaining about. Yup I said it the dreaded Black Market. A lot of folks were out a lot of cash or they got smart and fed the BM and say fukk the dispos and playin indian giver with our rights. Remember its not a Right if it can be taken from you.
The rule now is, no caregivers and no home grows unless you are 25 miles as the crow flies to any licensed dipso. With the way they rolled out the CHARS it is damn near impossible to not live within that range unless you move in with a rattlesnake or gila monster. :)

So I guess after that long winded tirade, I would have to say, they are coming for your grow rights. I watched it happen here. This whole nation will roll it out then once all the big players are in place they will come at the homegrower just like the Revenuers did during alcohol prohibition and after coming for the moonshiners. Once the corporate elements get fully entrenched both nationwide and globally any attempt to cut into their supply chain will be dealt with like the war on pot never stopped. I believe that in my heart. Take what you want and leave the rest........ peace out farmers!!!!
 
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The air must be so fresh from atop your high horse. Sing your song to the folks who kept genetics alive through prohibition and catch a punch in the mouth. If not for several generations of criminals risking their freedom to preserve these genetics you wouldn't have cannabis worth growing unless you yourself were a skilled breeder.

Come on out, just learn local traffic laws and be courteous or you will draw the ire of every road rager in your vicinity. 250k won't go far anywhere in the metro area, you'd be looking at around 1000sq ft with minimal lawn. Plenty of options outside metro Denver, but it's one of the country's most competitive buyers markets.

As previously mentioned, come with a job or a plan for money. If you have an outlet for your material then you should be good moving it. Starting fresh in this market is unforgiving unless you grow immaculate cannabis, then it's simply challenging and frustrating

With the influx of enforcement dollars there have been a lot of raids in the last month. Dudes with under 8kW should be fine, but more than that is plenty to draw curiosity from local enforcement.

All of us who have been here in CO for a bit have seen our grow freedoms ratcheted BACK over time because of the influx of folks who don't simply grow for themselves and who think it's no big deal to ship out of state/etc.

Since you asked...THAT's who it hurts. (everyone)

Not that we've ever needed permission....but....

Man couldnt have said it any better fellas.
@NaturalTherapy a old bird told me ya were moving! To the dream land. Lets brunch before ya do !
 
lino

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Funny,
$5000 /lb out of state ,, you guys cant keep up with demand. lol you guys are going to have to up your game when cannabis goes public. selling in state is like a part time job that will end soon.


Land farmers will take over, Monsanto and dow products will beat the dispenses, thats nasty weed too.
Soybean prices are seen averaging $9.23 per bushel in 2017-18, down from $9.43 in the current marketing year. projections for wheat prices are rock bottom: an average price of $3.78 per bushel in the current marketing year and $4.39 per bushel next year, following two years of sharp reduction in wheat acres.
 
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Funny,
$5000 /lb out of state ,, you guys cant keep up with demand. lol you guys are going to have to up your game when cannabis goes public. selling in state is like a part time job that will end soon.


Land farmers will take over, Monsanto and dow products will beat the dispenses, thats nasty weed too.
Soybean prices are seen averaging $9.23 per bushel in 2017-18, down from $9.43 in the current marketing year. projections for wheat prices are rock bottom: an average price of $3.78 per bushel in the current marketing year and $4.39 per bushel next year, following two years of sharp reduction in wheat acres.
$5k a pound? Where and since when do people buy pounds for 5 thousand dollars...?
 
lino

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Most states have homies that will pay,
$5000 cash only, 25% before delivery, 75% at delivery. Remaining 25% at next drop.
$4500 prepaid all day long for select bud.

$3800 if they pick it up, in state delivery Colo.... I know all kinds of peeps doing it,,, growing some nasty big quantity 20 lbs and up grows. lots of them have lame bud and dont get that much money.
 
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The pay bout 300 a Oz,,, they easily make bout $600 a Oz, usually more.
simple biz model homie, 50% mark up
I've never seen numbers like that. Bigger plugs around here getting shipments from CO are not paying those prices. Substantially less than that.
 
lino

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I've never seen numbers like that. Bigger plugs around here getting shipments from CO are not paying those prices. Substantially less than that.
member Delivery vs in state pick up
IF you see green you cant get as money much money as I ask.
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In other words my shit cant look like other peeps grn house bud to fetch my prices.
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