Cityfarmin
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I added a shit ton of perlite. But I also sprouted them so their tail was sticking out
Buildasoil vs FFOF Soil: Indoor Side By Side Organic Grow Review
I added a shit ton of perlite. But I also sprouted them so their tail was sticking out
Freshone
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Once again,FFOF is too hot for seedlings(perlite or not).You will get lucky once in awhile but for the most part I wouldn't plant into it until the plants are up for a couple weeks at least.
When your seed cracks and throws a tap root it will burn the shit out of it,shrivel and die,gets expensive unless you use gifted or bag seeds.
When your seed cracks and throws a tap root it will burn the shit out of it,shrivel and die,gets expensive unless you use gifted or bag seeds.
Cityfarmin
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Yea I won’t be doing that ever again.
I’ll just pop a new bean and once’s it’s a few inches tall I’ll transplant.
I had to try at least. Gotta learn from mistakes.
Cityfarmin
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Ok ladies and gents! Check this out!!
I call her big Bertha , 55gal drum with a hand pump!
I’m gonna be able to fill her up and run a RO system with her and a garden hose!!
No more god damn bending over inside a tent to hand water with a sprayer meant for misting the plants! Lol
Any one have some ideas on how to go about king this?
I know I can YouTube DIY RO SYSTEMS, but I rather get some input from you guys and make this a fun team build!
Also day 7
I been keeping up with the 1gal a day watering and the build a soil plant is looking great.
As for the fox farm, nothing ever happened.
I’m sproutong some new beans for it now.
Gonna throw them in some “light” soil once the beans sprout and than wait till the grow and have a few node and some good root mass before I transplant.
I know I know everyone told me it wasn’t gonna work throwingghe beans into the FFOF, but I had to try and to be honest, if you check my other thread, I did the same thing. I put FFOF in 5 solo cups and just dropped beans in them and every bean sprouted, so I’m guessing this was just way to big of a pot for the bean to grow in.
I’m gonna post some pics later of the buildasoil and of the beans I’m popping.
Please don’t lose interest in this grow and keep throwing out any ideas or info you might have for me!
Thanks guys!
I call her big Bertha , 55gal drum with a hand pump!
I’m gonna be able to fill her up and run a RO system with her and a garden hose!!
No more god damn bending over inside a tent to hand water with a sprayer meant for misting the plants! Lol
Any one have some ideas on how to go about king this?
I know I can YouTube DIY RO SYSTEMS, but I rather get some input from you guys and make this a fun team build!
Also day 7
I been keeping up with the 1gal a day watering and the build a soil plant is looking great.
As for the fox farm, nothing ever happened.
I’m sproutong some new beans for it now.
Gonna throw them in some “light” soil once the beans sprout and than wait till the grow and have a few node and some good root mass before I transplant.
I know I know everyone told me it wasn’t gonna work throwingghe beans into the FFOF, but I had to try and to be honest, if you check my other thread, I did the same thing. I put FFOF in 5 solo cups and just dropped beans in them and every bean sprouted, so I’m guessing this was just way to big of a pot for the bean to grow in.
I’m gonna post some pics later of the buildasoil and of the beans I’m popping.
Please don’t lose interest in this grow and keep throwing out any ideas or info you might have for me!
Thanks guys!
Cityfarmin
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Day 7
Here’s some pics from the buildasoil.
This girl looks to be super happy.
I got the temp inside the tent running at 74F and RH at 65%
I finally fixed my over heating problem and my clones rooted lovely!
The FFOF GROW is still on hold as the new seeds haven’t piped yet. I’ll be back at my grow room tomorrow to check it out and see what’s up.
Here’s some pics from the buildasoil.
This girl looks to be super happy.
I got the temp inside the tent running at 74F and RH at 65%
I finally fixed my over heating problem and my clones rooted lovely!
The FFOF GROW is still on hold as the new seeds haven’t piped yet. I’ll be back at my grow room tomorrow to check it out and see what’s up.
brazel
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What plants know , teaming with microbes, teaming with nutrients, teaming with fungi are some good books to start with
brazel
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Microbe-lift I think it's called.
brazel
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SF nematodes ftw
brazel
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Drop your light
brazel
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I'd disagree, if these are the Ingredients: Composted forest humus, sphagnum peat moss, Pacific Northwest sea-going fish emulsion, crab meal, shrimp meal, earthworm castings, sandy loam, perlite, bat guano, granite dust, Norwegian kelp, and oyster shell (for pH adjustment)...
Crab meal and shrimp meal ha ok:/
Congratulations you just made crustacean meal
what makes it hot!? Guano is the main thing i see.. but we don't have any clue to the ratios of ingredients used and they're mixed in huge batches which is not ideal.
It's shit soil!!!
Thousands of people have planted seed in ffof with no problems! Thousands of people have planted seed in ffof with problems! Ha ok
I know, I know... thousands of people have used ffof and it's not shit. Well yes it is shit.
It doesn't even make sense... It's supposed to be an organic soil? Is this true? On the website it says it has everything in it, but it appears to me that most people are usually adding nutes!? And adding Additional amendments!?
I thought It had everything in it!
Get a soil test!
If you think you have good yields and healthy buds or whatever then you should try growing in soil that you build yourself!
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brazel
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My point exactly, it's not to hot. If it was then how did your five other seeds sprouted? And to say you got lucky, five out five would be beyond lucky. Anaerobic if anything. Plus you're watering it too much. No such thing as too big of a pot for seed to sprout. The seed has no idea where it's at or how big of an area it's in, it just sprouts.
RO is too clean imo.
MIMedGrower
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Fox farm calls ocean forest a premium potting mix. A growing medium only. They advertise it to feed a max of 2-3 weeks before starting a fertigation program.
In my experience it is only a little longer lasting than the starter nutrient charge in pro mix Hp. Another style of growing mix.
It also does not say organic on the bag. Just "natural". And it instructs to begin fertilizing in 2-3 weeks.
Who said it was a complete soil?
And I do obviously agree it isn't hot. I sprout in it all the time. Most problems I see are bad conditions, damaged root or more often overwatering.
brazel
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If it can only feed for 2 or 3 weeks there's no way in hell it would be hot! I saw the organic word on the Amazon link.
I read on their website that it has everything your plant needs
brazel
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Two to three weeks max... they wouldn't even have to add anything to get 2 or 3 weeks of growth!
SPM, castings and aeration would work
SPM, castings and aeration would work
brazel
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There's a reason why the best cannabis competition in the world only allows organic! Emerald cup!
MIMedGrower
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Most of the amendment is worm castings. The rest is less Than 1%.
It is a growing medium. Not a "super soil".
talks about fertilizer in the ad copy you seem mad about and in the Fox farm FAQ it explains everything with no hype.
May I ask why so many are all worked up about organics lately? Organic inputs are sourced in horrible ways just like other fertilizers. And they sure can't be guaranteed to be clean of contaminants. Especially the blood and bone off the slaughterhouse floor.
And I sure don't want poop and stuff decomposing and or bubblingin my spare bedroom. Seems more proper outside to me.
brazel
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Nah bro I'm not mad about anything but I am passionate about growing and 90% of cannabis related companies are bullshit, myths, lies and just dumb.
If an organic living soil grower is using bone or blood meal then he's not an organic living soil grower. Fish bone is an exception.
Can you please tell me what other organic inputs that are sourced horribly?
I didn't read the whole website, all I read was what I posted which said everything your plant needs... which if you read above, it falls into the bullshit lies myths and just plain dumb.
I shouldn't have to read the faqs to get additional info that's not on the product page on their website.
Anything a plant grows in is the medium.
I'm not a fan of super soil either.
Have you smoked organic living soil grown herb?
Inside or outside if you're doing it properly there would be no smell or anything like that. And talking about proper wouldn't the plant in general be more proper outside!?
Please don't think I'm attacking or being rude towards you or anyone.
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brazel
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Organics are the real deal, bottled nutes are intimidations.
brazel
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I use no bone, blood or guanos
Organikz
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Why is fox farms hot and fast? Low C:N ratio. I look for something with a high C:N ratio. Nitrogen will be snagged out of the air while minerals are broken down. You don't need to start with all that nitrogen.
My new secret amendment. A $3 bag of pine bark fines. 2 cubic foot. The stuff is like dust.
Contaminants and pathogens would be destroyed upon contact with ewc. You know that shit heats up to like 250 degrees? Not to mention all the good guys.
"A thief in a crowded market"...right @brazel
Yes I broke that one out
My new secret amendment. A $3 bag of pine bark fines. 2 cubic foot. The stuff is like dust.
Contaminants and pathogens would be destroyed upon contact with ewc. You know that shit heats up to like 250 degrees? Not to mention all the good guys.
"A thief in a crowded market"...right @brazel
Yes I broke that one out
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