MidwestToker
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But your veg time will be longer for the 3 to yield the same as the 10, correct?
KlipschGuy
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I use 2 1000 watt lamps, I grow 10 plants or 20 or more and end up with about the same yield when it's all said and done, no matter how many plants. I find when I grow 10 under 2k light, I get bigger and heavier buds. When I grow 20 I get the same yield but smaller weaker buds and a lot more shag even if lollipopped.
I won't veg less than 2 month, I can't waste my light bill clams on an ounce or two plant, your gonna lose money that way. But yes you have to make sure your plant size can accommodate a large yield.
I grow 10 under 2k and I get around 3 1/2 lbs, sometimes way more all about strain. I got 10 of these and I think today is day 40.
I won't veg less than 2 month, I can't waste my light bill clams on an ounce or two plant, your gonna lose money that way. But yes you have to make sure your plant size can accommodate a large yield.
I grow 10 under 2k and I get around 3 1/2 lbs, sometimes way more all about strain. I got 10 of these and I think today is day 40.
KlipschGuy
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A 1000 watt lamp is really only good a for a square meter, and plants outside that square meter are going to suffer, anything outside the square are going to take from what could be absorbed by the plants in the square, so really to many plants under a certain amount of wattage will make all your plants suffer. They may not suffer on all around yield but it will make for smaller weaker product. 8 of these are day 40 and 2 are like day 29. But this is just my opinion and what I've found over about 10 years of growing.
MidwestToker
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KlipschGuy
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Look really nice bro. Could just be the picture but they look a little taller than I would like. I would have bent the taller tops in veg and that would have brought up your side arms, similar to topping but without the smaller buds and smaller weaker branches that topping produces.
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MidwestToker
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Thanks, as does yours, Those are a 32 day veg from rooted cuttings before flip, and yes they are 6' tall, in 2.5 gal pots under 825 watts of de hps in a 4x8 floor area. Many ways to grow this fine herb.
brazel
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Tickling! What! Seriously! High five! Beneficial! When I get plants for my yard from the nursery, I do the same.
Next cycle grow one plant in its final container. Post your findings.
brazel
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you wrote that backwards. No worries:)
Nice grow.
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I don't recollect what the benchmark yield expectations there are with 1000w hps/MH but right now I've got 900 watts of 3590 Cobs and I should be doing better in a 14 week run (plus or minus). "They" say I should be getting a gram and a half to 2 grams per watt and I'm barely getting one but I basically yield the same amount if I use 2.5 or 5 gallon pots or grow 10 or 20 plants. It seems a watt is a watt.
I transplant once from solo cups at 2 maybe 3 weeks to their final pot and they don't care at all. Transplant stress is negligible especially prior to my forcing them to do my bidding. I bend and twist and supercrop, pinch and fim them and as long as they have good light and good growing conditions they quickly rebound from any physical assault. This is one plant that shrugs off stress if life is good. Tougher than shoeleather. Ha.. growing a good veggie garden is tougher than growing weed if the conditions are good.
I transplant once from solo cups at 2 maybe 3 weeks to their final pot and they don't care at all. Transplant stress is negligible especially prior to my forcing them to do my bidding. I bend and twist and supercrop, pinch and fim them and as long as they have good light and good growing conditions they quickly rebound from any physical assault. This is one plant that shrugs off stress if life is good. Tougher than shoeleather. Ha.. growing a good veggie garden is tougher than growing weed if the conditions are good.
brazel
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HID 1g per watt. LED vary, with yours 1.5g per watt. These are goals, you can be + or -.
What's your style of grow? Hydro, no til.. etc
How many cobs? They're spacing? Watt per?
I've read twice on here people getting same yield between 10 or 20 plants!
It doesn't take anything more then using your mind to realize negatives in transplanting. Think about it, you're removing it from its home and placing it into a new home. Next time test it, grow one without transplanting.
You say quickly rebound.. Why not eliminate the rebound.
If you're barely getting one gram, it's something you're doing.
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I dont go by weight. If I can go more than an hour without my girl asking for a bong hit I did good.
brazel
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While I don't go by weight ether, it's a good idea to monitor it even know there is strains that will always produce less no matter what you do. By monitoring weight you can see the efficiency of your energy.
If you're getting two ounces from 600 watts, that tells you something is off.
If you're getting two ounces from 600 watts, that tells you something is off.
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Transplanting is the effect and weather is the cause. You'd start plants before the weather became ideal. Growing indoors you don't have that, so please tell me why you transplant?
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The more your skills grow the more you know which eliminates monitoring weight among many other things
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@brazel. I see NO detrimental transplant shock going from solo cups to 3 gallon pots when done between 2 and 3 weeks and I tease the roots a bit b4 dropping them into their new home.
I'm running 18 fifty watt 3590's all putting out 3500k from start to finish. Every 6 Cobs have their own driver and their own DIY frames. All 18 Cobs are pretty much 12 inches on center. I've got another 300 watts on the way and I'll be tweaking all the frames so that the Cobs are 15 inches on center with a 24 inch red T bulb down the middle of each frame. The pics here 2 week old plants. Unless your overly aggressive combing out the roots they don't even know they've been uprooted.
I will admit that i train aggressively but even then rebound time doesn't amount to much. If you can think of a training technique I've tried it and the girls don't mind much. Remember were talking about MJ which is really an easy plant to grow. I have a lot more difficulty growing good broccoli and egg plant than I do MJ although when I DO run into trouble I don't cry over my broccoli. Here are a few pics of harshly manipulated girls.
I don't know about anyone else but I start a lot more good femmed seeds than I could ever use. Right now I have over 40 seeds in paper towels. Anything that pops will go into Pro Mix with no nutes and will get grown out for a couplafew weeks and I will reduce the number down by half based on how they look and will either trash or give away anything that doesn't make the grade. My goal is to have 10 to 15 vigorous girls and I would love to make 900 grams of bud under 900 watts or even 1350 grams. Good luck to all.
I'm running 18 fifty watt 3590's all putting out 3500k from start to finish. Every 6 Cobs have their own driver and their own DIY frames. All 18 Cobs are pretty much 12 inches on center. I've got another 300 watts on the way and I'll be tweaking all the frames so that the Cobs are 15 inches on center with a 24 inch red T bulb down the middle of each frame. The pics here 2 week old plants. Unless your overly aggressive combing out the roots they don't even know they've been uprooted.
I will admit that i train aggressively but even then rebound time doesn't amount to much. If you can think of a training technique I've tried it and the girls don't mind much. Remember were talking about MJ which is really an easy plant to grow. I have a lot more difficulty growing good broccoli and egg plant than I do MJ although when I DO run into trouble I don't cry over my broccoli. Here are a few pics of harshly manipulated girls.
I don't know about anyone else but I start a lot more good femmed seeds than I could ever use. Right now I have over 40 seeds in paper towels. Anything that pops will go into Pro Mix with no nutes and will get grown out for a couplafew weeks and I will reduce the number down by half based on how they look and will either trash or give away anything that doesn't make the grade. My goal is to have 10 to 15 vigorous girls and I would love to make 900 grams of bud under 900 watts or even 1350 grams. Good luck to all.
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Obviously you can do whatever you enjoi, and I don't wanna go back and forth. If you don't think allowing those beautiful roots you have to grow continuously is a better option vs confining them and allowing them to start circling... Then so be it, I ain't mad at you. :) do you!
brazel
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Nice lights!
brazel
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You feed or amended soil?
brazel
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You've ran scrog and lst?
brazel
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2 to 3 weeks isn't that bad but if you could transplant before your roots circle, you'd see better results. Test one plant next grow
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