Mosh wants to learn to grow !

I kept this tangie auto that was line green rite from the beginning I left it in the little nursery pot

Moshmen said:

I can understand what happened to a few of them , ph swings blah blah blah

But this one was healthy yesterday befor water a little fade goin but that’s ok now it’s got brown crispy leaves 24 hrs later? Run off yesterday was ph 6.3 and ec . 7 so right where I think I want to be? Could the water have been to warm ? Was up to about 83degrees and I used it anyways . Normally I let it come to room temp

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Hmmm i used to water at 80 degrees and it didnt hurt anything do u have RO water or Did u put anything in there like cal mag or what kinda nutes do u use?

Moshmen said:

Ok so gonna keep this going till I get in my trailer, should be done by now but we’ll u know lazy I guess. So had to drop some seeds both autos and photos got some GDP autos just come thru along with some clones from some auto tangie - I had room so what the hell good practice. Got some Reno genetics that well even though I’ve seen great lookin plants I have yet to get a seed to crack! Don’t know why even hit them with a little h2o2 still nuthin

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You try lightly sanding? Like just scuff it.

Chemdawg16 said:

Hmmm i used to water at 80 degrees and it didnt hurt anything do u have RO water or Did u put anything in there like cal mag or what kinda nutes do u use?

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I do use calmag - 3 ml in a gallon of rainwater along with 7-8 ml of pure blend pro grow , it is possible I used a jug of water that had been sitting outside in the sun ! Dumbass - as the temps can push to 100-110 , I usually let come to room temp before use

Milson said:

You try lightly sanding?

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No I haven’t I’ll score them today and see what happens ? They sure are stubborn

Milson said:

You try lightly sanding? Like just scuff it.

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Ive heard cannas rizotonic can soften the shell.ive only ever used a warm glass of water.i couldnt crack sunset sherbets seeds so i made it even warmer again and that did the trick..my wood heater has a little shelf and i just put them on that...keeps em warm.if they dont shoot in 24 they go straight outside in the dirt.if they come up they are a bonus

Just not happy with the remainder of this grow At all, I know I don’t have the the prettiest set up (yet)lol and I’m ok with that but I still try to do the best I can with what I got , learned a big lesson with what I believe to be shitty genetics in my opinion - one love from greAt lake 10 seeds not one made it anything that popped sucomed to mold/mildew .
- then Tao Tao seeds 10 more plants 2 months in, they are auto flowers , and no flowers or they started to reveg after flowering starts-damn autos!
And finally got one or two small plants that are still ok and I got mites the other day I think the russet variety. I am usually pretty about comin in from fencing with dirty - but a couple days ago I was in the room and my boy walked in from the woods and right over to my tent and stuck his head in , damn it man ! Thinkin bout cuttin bait and starting fresh ? Lol

Biggest lesson learned so far- well nothin I didn’t already know just didn’t practice- buy quality and you will only cry once! My gramps was so right ! Went cheap and now I got nada

And this bug he brought in as well I think what the fuck is it? It’s white and powdery like the mealy bugs and they fly.

Fuck if I think they are all goin outside and start with a fresh batch before these new borns that are stretchin get replanted in fresh new promix - I left a open bagin my garage not gonna use it

Moshmen said:

And this bug he brought in as well I think what the fuck is it? It’s white and powdery like the mealy bugs and they fly.

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Some sort of leafhopper. They're fuckers.. I'd spray pyrethrin in the dark cycle once every few days for a week otherwise hell be chomping on yer plants.

Dirtbag said:

Some sort of leafhopper. They're fuckers.. I'd spray pyrethrin in the dark cycle once every few days for a week otherwise hell be chomping on yer plants.

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Already started I’m gonna got em with some Azamax for the russets in the morning/lights out cuz that’s what I got - just another learning experience gotta get on this preventive maintenance program for sure. Thanx

Started a fresh tent today got lots to do - I’m still in my closet ! The plan was to be in the trailer by now but I’ve barely had time , it’s been another good year for Kustom fence! Still booked they middle of October now so who knows when I’ll actually get my room goin hopefully x-mas time. Been gathering all the goodies though! Only thing left are more lites! Been saving my change for those gonna but big boy lights this time and use the kingbrites/mars for propagation/veg. Been looking I like the Gavitas and fluence but will prolly end up with hlg based on price and the performance I’ve witnessed on the farm.

But for now I will blast these little ones with the mars sp-250
I follow up when tent is full, for now I’ll be running autoflowers from a fellow farmer. And some misc Reno genetics gear

I’ll be using promix again with 25-30% perlite added gonna try 2 part nutes this go with bloom booster - megacrop 2 part and massive - I’ll use tap, no more rain water

Mosh you are a rock star brother

of course It’s full, lmao done for the day

So I’m gonna jump around here a bit - with all the talk on the farm about yield I decided to try and figure out some sort form of figure. I run my 2’x4’x84” flower tent with 5-6 plants and I harvest 1 or 2 approximately every 2-3 weeks . So I do not have any concrete numbers but I was just curious and thought I would set a approx baseline. 6 plants over six weeks - 3 cheese ? On breeder= 204 grams. 2 think different by Dutch passion= 130 grams. a white widow my AO seeds= 60grams Remember they are all autos at this point,
I run 2- 240 watt kingbrites ( Aprox 70%) with ir and 660 far red as a general rule my environment sux so vpd isn’t always what it should be but it works

394 grams with Aprox. 336 watts in 16 square feet

1.17 grams a watt Aprox
24.6 grams a square foot
14 ounces a cycle ? Idk sounds like a lot more than I was thinkin soon I’ll be able to quantify my efforts

Moshmen said:

So I’m gonna jump around here a bit - with all the talk on the farm about yield I decided to try and figure out some sort form of figure. I run my 2’x4’x84” flower tent with 5-6 plants and I harvest 1 or 2 approximately every 2-3 weeks . So I do not have any concrete numbers but I was just curious and thought I would set a approx baseline. 6 plants over six weeks - 3 cheese ? On breeder= 204 grams. 2 think different by Dutch passion= 130 grams. a white widow my AO seeds= 60grams Remember they are all autos at this point,
I run 2- 240 watt kingbrites ( Aprox 70%) with ir and 660 far red as a general rule my environment sux so vpd isn’t always what it should be but it works

394 grams with Aprox. 336 watts in 16 square feet

1.17 grams a watt Aprox
24.6 grams a square foot
14 ounces a cycle ? Idk sounds like a lot more than I was thinkin soon I’ll be able to quantify my efforts

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This method does not really equal the math for a straight full room at once grow but i always look at it like how many ounces (grams) per month harvested for my perpetual. Individual plant yield can be higher as not all the plants are full sized ar once so they can stretch out a little more.

So really per plant yield and output per month are the metrics for me.

My high average with 2 600 watt lights in a 3.5’x7’ area is 5.5oz per plant and about a pound per month.

Simple not so simple way... grams per kilowatt hour.

Aqua Man said:

Simple not so simple way... grams per kilowatt hour.

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Cant do that accurately in a perpetual like mine because the veg may go shorter or longer before a space is available in the flower room.

Well i guess you could track every plant but the final numbers would be variable as well.

MIMedGrower said:

Cant do that accurately in a perpetual like mine because the veg may go shorter or longer before a space is available in the flower room.

Well i guess you could track every plant but the final numbers would be variable as well.

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Yep that exactly how. Calculate per plant or average per month. X amount of total kilowatt hours equals X amount of total yield. You will get an accurate gram per kilowatt hr.

The whole problem of gpw is it doesn't calculate veg times etc. So by doing it this way you get an honest actual account of total of grams per kilowatt hour.

Aqua Man said:

Yep that exactly how. Calculate per plant or average per month. X amount of total kilowatt hours equals X amount of total yield. You will get an accurate gram per kilowatt hr.

The whole problem of gpw is it doesn't calculate veg times etc. So by doing it this way you get an honest actual account of total of grams per kilowatt hour.

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I may have to try that - I’ve been tracking similar to mimed just on s much smaller scale-lol really I’m only really concerned with my own progress .