High THCV strains and breeding them

MIMedGrower said:

I am no hippy that believes in karma.

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I had a conversation with a buddhist monk in Chiang Mai about a year ago where we discussed how karma is basically just a person's subconscious mind and it was pretty meaningful to me.

My interest in breeding relates to how the choices a breeder makes relate to karma and how ingesting the fruit of my choices and care is just very romantic in a spiritual sense to me. Especially when I am working with genetics from breeders who themselves seem like decent people. It's like a chain.

Milson said:

I had a conversation with a buddhist monk in Chiang Mai about a year ago where we discussed how karma is basically just a person's subconscious mind and it was pretty meaningful to me.

My interest in breeding relates to how the choices a breeder makes relate to karma and how ingesting the fruit of my choices and care is just very romantic in a spiritual sense to me. Especially when I am working with genetics from breeders who themselves seem like decent people. It's like a chain.

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Thats fine as a personal hobby. But to find real medicine feelings are not helpful.

Also if you see a company selling seeds money is the agenda. Real “hippies” give their strains away for free.

MIMedGrower said:

Thats fine as a personal hobby. But to find real medicine feelings are not helpful.

Also if you see a company selling seeds money is the agenda. Real “hippies” give their strains away for free.

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I suppose that's one response to that post.

My old lady walking is paying off, this is a good omen. Look when they dropped it at the post office

Milson said:

I had a conversation with a buddhist monk in Chiang Mai about a year ago where we discussed how karma is basically just a person's subconscious mind and it was pretty meaningful to me.

My interest in breeding relates to how the choices a breeder makes relate to karma and how ingesting the fruit of my choices and care is just very romantic in a spiritual sense to me. Especially when I am working with genetics from breeders who themselves seem like decent people. It's like a chain.

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Since we're on the topic, the generally understood Buddhist concept of karma differs from the Hindu one in that it's only used to denote a person's actions and their intent, not the consequences of them. It's understood in the context of being the cause of "dukkha," which is roughly translated to ennui, dissatisfaction, or existential angst that we feel as a result of our life circumstances.

In effect, our general circumstances are in a way the sum of our actions via dependent arising (conceptually similar to the law of cause and effect), and our karma is the mechanism by which the present continually manifests through the lens of the self.

Kanzeon said:

Since we're on the topic, the generally understood Buddhist concept of karma differs from the Hindu one in that it's only used to denote a person's actions and their intent, not the consequences of them. It's understood in the context of being the cause of "dukkha," which is roughly translated to ennui, dissatisfaction, or existential angst that we feel as a result of our life circumstances.

In effect, our general circumstances are in a way the sum of our actions via dependent arising (conceptually similar to the law of cause and effect), and our karma is the mechanism by which the present continually manifests through the lens of the self.

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Is that original?

Kanzeon said:

Since we're on the topic, the generally understood Buddhist concept of karma differs from the Hindu one in that it's only used to denote a person's actions and their intent, not the consequences of them. It's understood in the context of being the cause of "dukkha," which is roughly translated to ennui, dissatisfaction, or existential angst that we feel as a result of our life circumstances.

In effect, our general circumstances are in a way the sum of our actions via dependent arising (conceptually similar to the law of cause and effect), and our karma is the mechanism by which the present continually manifests through the lens of the self.

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Any reasonable response to this would be long enough that I should probably take it to my thread lol.

Milson said:

Any reasonable response to this would be long enough that I should probably take it to my thread lol.

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heres a response. Any reasonably intelligent modern human knows there is only cause and effect. But because of agendas the human may preach much more complicated and fantastical theories. (Religion). :-)

My girlfriend in the 90’s university theses was to compare all the “king james” style bibles. There are a lot more than i thought. Each sect have the original wording skewed to their own political motives. Very enlightening to read her highlighted bibles.

Sorry I digress. I will keep philosophy to the “ask Milson” pages.

MIMedGrower said:

heres a response. Any reasonably intelligent modern human knows there is only cause and effect.

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Man, come on. Really?

Do you just ignore quantum mechanics? Or any attempts by physicists to deal with the preponderance of data they are gathering w.r.t. reality?

Philosophically, how about Hume?

I mean if we want to be all serious.......the idea of a clockwork universe is simply countered by too much at this point.

Milson said:

Man, come on. Really?

Do you just ignore quantum mechanics? Or any attempts by physicists to deal with the preponderance of data they are gathering w.r.t. reality?

Philosophically, how about Hume?

I mean if we want to be all serious.......the idea of a clockwork universe is simply countered by too much at this point.

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Yes i ignore quantum mechanics. When we stop making up math to simply hypothesize and actually have some proof of something i will pay attention.

I think humans will believe anything at this point. No facts or proof needed. ;-)

MIMedGrower said:

Yes i ignore quantum mechanics. When we stop making up math to simply hypothesize and actually have some proof of something i will pay attention.

I think humans will believe anything at this point. No facts or proof needed. ;-)

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Lmao ok. Kinda feels like cherrypicking "facts" and "proof," but do you.

For those interested, this is awesome.




Also of particular interest to me: wild cannabis is repeatedly called "extremely heterozygous."

Which....paired with incomplete dominance.....

Heh.

Milson said:

For those interested, this is awesome.

A physical and genetic map of Cannabis sativa identifies extensive rearrangements at the THC/CBD acid synthase loci

Cannabis sativa is widely cultivated for medicinal, food, industrial, and recreational use, but much remains unknown regarding its genetics, including the molecular determinants of cannabinoid content. Here, we describe a combined physical and genetic ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Also of particular interest to me: wild cannabis is repeatedly called "extremely heterozygous."
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Which....paired with incomplete dominance.....

Heh.

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Just a suggestion, but consider posting links with a topic header instead of copy/paste. My scroll wheel is overheating...

Skeptik said:

Just a suggestion, but consider posting links with a topic header instead of copy/paste. My scroll wheel is overheating...

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yeah lol it looks a lot better on my phone and then i come here on desktop and i am like wow that is unreadable.

Will have to figure out a better way to give people a teaser if they are interested to explore more.

Harvesting the JtR tent tomorrow.




Along with the other 3 plants. LED Out!




















Stay tuned this weekend and wear your Ovaltine decoder rings as we do a second to last check on cannabinoids. Final test will be after a proper cure. If there is any question the TLC might be wrong, say for example, it makes me want to paint the antenna on the roof (I don't have an antenna), I'll have a sample tested at a lab. That will give us terpenes too.






The Tvic is over the Atlantic somewhere based on tracking. I have a dilemma.

Do I keep these genetics or start over with the Tvic?

Durban Poison
Afghan
Jack the Ripper
Bubba Kush



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Option 1:

Move genetics pictured above in Veg over to the LED tent.
Wait until the HID tent is 2 weeks out from harvest to plant the Tvic. Probably 45 days.

Option 2:

Sacrifice these plants and replant with Tvic as soon as it arrives.


Whichever one we choose, that one will go into the LED tent I am harvesting this weekend.

I'm torn. This Durban Poison has been my go to for weight loss. This is my last seed. And I'm out. I thought I had this covered with the JtR.

If I just throw these genetics in the mom tent to chill for a cycle to get the Tvic in right away, that might be my best option. The drawback there is the TVic goes in the LED tent and honestly I think HID does a better job with flowers than LED. All of my most kickass plants have come out of the HID tent. Not starting a debate, just thinking analytically about this test. Decisions made now we have to live with for months. Makes what I am doing here a very deliberate process.

OK, well thanks for allowing me to work this verbal vomit out (its cheaper than therapy), I've decided to put the current Veg tent plants into the LED tent and push back getting the TVic wet. This puts me in the HID tent with the TVic. Then I am going to move the Far Red and UVA over to the LED tent and use these plants as testers on that. Perhaps with the added spectrum the LED tent will become as productive as the HID tent.


TVic gets to wait.

You guys got any testing you want to do with respect to freeze drying or curing or anything? I'm gonna freeze dry some of each plant.

I wonder what the difference in cannabinoids is with different curing methods, especially the minors like CBG CBN etc. Could maybe do a series of 8 TLC tests?

First would be the 5 plants freeze dried and tested right away.

Second would be at the end of air drying and the start of cure.

Week 1

Week 2

Week 3

Week 4

Week 6

Week 8

If we wanted to split the curing into 2 methods we could do that too. Maybe to burp or not to burp? Brown bag or glass? glass vs plastic? I dunno.

One more thing I'm getting the TLC process calibrated. I'm dropping a sample off at the lab because it works for my wife and I want to know why and what terpenes. I'm gonna run a TLC of the same bud prior to dropping off and predict the % cannabinoids prior to getting the lab test back. I'll post results, good or bad.

Moe.Red said:

You guys got any testing you want to do with respect to freeze drying or curing or anything? I'm gonna freeze dry some of each plant.

I wonder what the difference in cannabinoids is with different curing methods, especially the minors like CBG CBN etc. Could maybe do a series of 8 TLC tests?

First would be the 5 plants freeze dried and tested right away.

Second would be at the end of air drying and the start of cure.

Week 1

Week 2

Week 3

Week 4

Week 6

Week 8

If we wanted to split the curing into 2 methods we could do that too. Maybe to burp or not to burp? Brown bag or glass? glass vs plastic? I dunno.

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Try a food dehydrator

BunnyAnd.Ducky said:

Try a food dehydrator

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Good call. Will do.

Red.

Don't sweat the Durban..You've been more than generous including us in this project...I'll send you some of what I have, or will try to source more for you..You do what you feel is best for the project..Who bred your Durban beans?