PERFECTLY said GreenthumbBill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If only the majority of Americans watching the mainstream media realized this is a well thought out agenda to DESTROY the MIDDLE CLASS!!! Please wake up America. The establishment only fear we the people. They don't have enough FEMA camps to put us in if we all stick together. Divide and conquer has been a tool used since the days of Alexander the Great. It worked great then and works even better today. We have the media lying to us every day telling us what the establishment wants to tell us.

Well I know this much because I grew up in Boston. In the middle of a statewide Oxycontin epidemic the great Mitt Romney made huge cuts to substance abuse facilities. It was so bad that the pharmacies were putting enormous signs in their windows stating that they do not carry Oxycontin. This is because kids from Charlestown and surrounding Boston area were robbing pharmacies with AK-47's because their was more $$$$ robbing Walgreens or CVS than the bank. The only chance we stand in saving this country is Ron Paul!!!!!!! And guess what Dr. Paul is still in the Republican race no matter what lies the media reports. Dr Paul also wants to end the war on drugs legalize marijuana and will allow us the free choice to drink raw milk if we want.

Getting America "back on the right track" is all just some people talking. No major changes are going to happen at this point short of a large scale disaster or well organized, violent revolution. We didn't get to where we are by accident, it was all very well planned and executed by the ruling class and everything is right on schedule.

Ron Paul is a racist asshole. He came to my university during the last election, he gave a speech and at the end accepted questions from the audience. My good brother asked him what he would do to replace the department of education, especially considering that those in poverty are/were relying the most on public funds to even get any form of education implemented.....he tried to duck the question and then left!!!!!No more questions to the public.

sanvanalona said:

Ron Paul is a racist asshole. He came to my university during the last election, he gave a speech and at the end accepted questions from the audience. My good brother asked him what he would do to replace the department of education, especially considering that those in poverty are/were relying the most on public funds to even get any form of education implemented.....he tried to duck the question and then left!!!!!No more questions to the public.

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I think you are exaggerating. Ron Paul never dodges questions. He is the only politician who consistently answers the specific question asked, stays on point and doesn't push spin. Try to find one video on the internet of Ron Paul ducking a question and I'll be surprised. He has answered the exact question you state he ducked several times. Check it out: (link to full page) http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Education.htm


Student loan program is a total failure and unconstitutional
Q: We are looking at student loan debt that is near $1 trillion. How would you make college more affordable?
PAUL: Well, I think you proved that the policy of student loans is a total failure. I mean, a trillion dollars of debt? And what have they gotten? A poorer education and costs that have skyrocketed because of inflation, and they don't have jobs. There's nothing more dramatically failing than that program. There's no authority in the Constitution for the federal government to be dealing with education. We should get rid of the loan programs. We should get rid of the Department of Education and give tax credits, if you have to, to help people.
Q: But how do they pay for it? How do they now pay for college?
PAUL: The way you pay for cellphones and computers. You have the marketplace there. There's competition. Quality goes up. The price goes down.
Source: 2011 CNBC GOP Primary debate in Rochester MI , Nov 9, 2011 Abolish college aid after a transition period
Q: Young people are borrowing to pay for college at record levels. Would you abolish all federal student aid?
A: Eventually, but my program doesn't do it. There's a transition in this.
Q: But that's your ultimate aim.
A: Yes, because there's no authority to do this. And just think of all this willingness to want to help every student get a college education. So they're a trillion dollars in debt. We don't have any jobs for them. The quality of education has gone down. So it's a failed program.
Source: Sean Hannity 2012 presidential interviews "Hannity Primary" , Oct 24, 2011

I understand that he will answer many things online, this was from personal experience almost exactly 4 years ago, and this statement is case and point how inadequate his answers to big problems are, he is equating education with the cell phone/computer industry, thats just moronic. I do not think that young people should be borrowing so much for education, shit look at my old posts and they will tell you that I am at the very least a democratic socialist, but I do not agree that the entire department of education should be eliminated, they do many good things, and this is exactly what my friend asked of him about 4 years ago. He was alluding to the fact that what do you do as an alternative to the department of education, especially for the innercity youth? He had no response and immediately left the speech, no more open forum. That is Ron Paul to me, other than just racist like his old pamphlets told so well, but he attacks major issues and has no real problem solver, the solution is rarely to just abolish the institutions one has problems with, but that always seems to be his. Paul's message obviously resonates well with the youth, but he is just a walking soundbite to me.

GreenThumbBill said:

He has answered the exact question you state he ducked several times.

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Like I said, this was live not online, and he only needed to duck the question that one time when put on the spot.

Actually enrollment costs are down 11.2% from 5 years ago. Enrollment in 2 year part time colleges have shot up, 4 year schools enrollment have flattened and dropped slightly, but the drop out rate has gone through the roof.

Like this dude wants to get rid of federal income tax and raise sale tax to 23%!! How is that beneficial to the poor and middle class or any family with kids spending more than 25% of the monthly income?

He believes in prayer in school.

He wants to outlaw abortions(overturn roe v wade), birth control, gay marriage, same sex adoption.....but also wants to get rid of birth citizenship......can you point out the very clear religious ideals.

He says that the government is not authorized to decide such decisions, BUT he will use the government to disallow people from getting an abortion........IRONIC!!!

His view on school is simple if you got money you can go, if you dont them ummm idk win the lotto. The dude is fucking racist as shit, sorry.

"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

"black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

Heres something I dont get Obama-care is basically a law passed saying you have to purchase insurance from a private insurance provider not very socialist at all. And Ron Paul wants 100% freemarket healthcare with no financial aid. So good luck to anyone trying pay off your medical bills and that 23% sales tax if he got his way.......how are either of these good?

"Do you have a philosophical belief that every American should have health insurance? Have access to health coverage?

Ron Paul's response:
I think you've stated it correctly and they should, but I don't see it as a right."

He is very dodgy in person, he will just go on and on about something else without ever addressing the question. College is way too expensive but if your going to a private or independent school your paying for the freemarket. Everyone knows state schools are cheaper.....How we cant all agree that public schools is a freaking important social program to have in place is crazy to me.

People have to realize that government has no business running any business. Nor should they steal my hard earned money and give it away to the lazy fucks who sponge off "government programs."

lol@ Ron Paul being a racist. :rolleyes: Not only does Ron Paul honestly answer questions head on but he takes the time to explain things in layman terms. He is one smart dude and would out- debate anyone in or out of the political arena.

I am a strong supporter of home-schooling. Gov schooling is bullshit. Forced vaccinations, shitty lunch programs and the dumbing down of american kids is not my idea of "socializing."

RON PAUL SUPPORTER! baaaaa baaaa baaaa!

Ron Paul is racist just look at the quotes from DWB, shit google it! How can you even claim he is not racist, seriously. Here is a little something from the young turks that I really like:


While Ron Paul may be smart, he is not the answer. Shit if you could of seen him squander and leave the public forum after my buddies question, you would eat your words. He is not a good debater, shit he had many of chance to prove to the contrary this year and he obviously didn't

The only oxygen I am going to waste on these posts is to laugh. And I will pray for all those brainwashed close minded souls. And just to make a point when I say I will pray it in no way means I am religious. Huge difference between religion and spiritually.
Peace

You know what im tired of.....people coming in calling others brainwashed argue/debate with us why where so stupid, close minded? What are you talking about? Ron Paul Is an open Libertarian Baptist Supports religion in EVERYWAY POSSIBLE. Blast our minds with some truth bomb, please.

Everyone is entitled to there opinions, but no body is entitled to facts. Show me how anything ive said is wrong, or move along.

Dirty White Boy do you need some tissues?

LOL! no I use my socks or a dirty towel or shirt thanx tho. Dont worry tho I dont really jerk off too politics unless sarah palin or her daughter are wearing some really low cut, mmmmmm. MILF boobies........

@Sanvan: Ron Paul has already addressed and extinguished the "racist quotes" slander YEARS ago. If you're going to ATTEMPT to argue this issue stop patronizing the discussion with your clear lack of knowledge evidenced by your use of old, spent, rhetorical ammunition.

sanvanalona said:

Like I said, this was live not online, and he only needed to duck the question that one time when put on the spot.

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What do you think an online video is? It is a reproduction of a recorded event, in this case an interview, that happened live, on the spot. I can't believe I have to make this distinction for you. Really?

Santi said:

Dirty White Boy do you need some tissues?

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You can't argue with a box of rocks. Luckily, THC Farmer now has the best ignore feature of any forum. Ignored user's posts are now completely invisible.

Thats fine then leave obama alone for his birth certificate. Been beatin to death..... Ron Paul knew damn well what was being published dont play fucking stupid......jebus chrissssssst. Lack of knowledge eat my ass with lack of knowledge. I agree with ALOT of what paul says but your ignoring the freaking obvious with paul.....Im sure the south would have gotten rid of slaves with smaller tariffs.....lmfao......if we were only taught creationism wed all be better off......


LOOK UP RON PAULS TOP TEN FINANCIAL PROVIDERS!!!!!! SEEE WHO REALLY SUPPORTS HIS CAMPAIGN!!!!!! Ron is a rambling idiot like the rest of them.....

I sure did not need the clarification, but thanks, you just misunderstood what I was saying. Yes interviews are live, but they can also be devised and often times the questions are given before the interview takes place, can't they? I do not know for sure what interview you are referring too, nor the particulars of the interview, but I DO KNOW WHAT I SAW. That is the distinction I am making here, when talking about the difference of an interview and witnessing him in action. Sorry that I cannot get over the pamphlet, but when that much racist material comes out with your name on it I can't honestly think considering the time that he did not condone the messages. I don't believe him when he claims that he would not of voted for the 1964 civil rights act because of property rights issues and not Jim Crow. In reality the argument doesn't matter much, considering that Ron Paul is really insignificant in this election, for better or worse.

GreenThumbBill said:

You can't argue with a box of rocks. Luckily, THC Farmer now has the best ignore feature of any forum. Ignored user's posts are now completely invisible.

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I win.......lmao......Your right, Im so tired of hearing yalls bullshit it would be nice to block yall.....done your blocked now go away.........WOW this forum is so much better!!!!!!! No more trolls........