Dankworth,
Don't know if I agree that bigger plants need different ratios, my experience has not shown that. Yosemite grows decent sized plants with his formula over a p per plant I think.
Wonder about this tho; about how cutting coco with perlite or hydroton changes nute requirements. Seems like maybe not since perlite and hydroton are fairly inert?
Ttystick,
I'm using Jack's and Cal nit and love it even though I managed to muddle it up in my haste this first run. I started off running a ratio of 2:3:1 . . . Jacks/Calnit/Epsom and my plants looked super healthy so it took me second to realize my mistake. Most run a 3:2:1 or 3:2:.5 or just 3:2 ratio. A 1:1 might be okay for veg and early flower but 3:2 is better for bloom for sure and maybe veg too. I started out using Epsom salts but will try dropping them based on YosemiteSam saying that Jacks already has near the upper limit for Mag.
Funny thing was my plants looked super healthy with 2:3:1 but by week 5 I realized my bud size was not what it should be and my plants were producing a tremendous amount of healthy leaf. So I switched it up to 3:2:1 at half strength and added MOAB at 1 gram per gallon and things have responded.
I am in about 60% perlite 40% coco and have been running my ppms (500 scale) at about 800 to 1200 prior to week five and about 650 with MOAB.
Yosemite was using Jacks with no boosters in coco but switched to salts to get a more coco specific formula. He told me that his yield did not go up with the switch but his quality did. He also foliars with calcium 25.
I might stop using Epsoms as Yosemite pointed out that Jacks already has the upper limits of Mag.
Jacks and calnit is super user friendly. Plants love it.
Wonder if anybody on the Farm has ever used Magnon grow or bloom from AmericanHydro? A and B two part dry nuts. Interesting looking stuff. They are from Humboldt and have been around for a while but don't sell exclusively to the cannabis market. They carry some interesting products. There Companion product is the shit if you want b.subtilis.
In RDWC, my preferred ratios with Jacks were:
3g/gal Jacks
3g/gal CalNi (veg)
2g/gal CalNi (bloom)
2g/gal Epsom, since the molecule has so much hydrate in it, you have to use a lot to get much sulfur.
If someone sees something wrong with these ratios, by all means say so- don't go by the ppm, I dilute to the strength needed for the plants' needs.
I'm not sure what too much magnesium looks like, but my girls were healthy- at least unitl the crazy pH swings set in. Capulator mentioned that he quit using silica due to pH issues, and I think I had the same problem- and then I think I got a bug of some kind that dragged my pH down, and hard. In the tug-of-war, my plants basically just gave up a week or two early.
Resinable, I fed at 2000 ppms/4 ec, and I clearly need to bump it to 2200 already. So let's say the coco contributes a total of 50 ppms K, that would be enough ppms to balance out K ratio at lower ppms. But at my ppms, there would be a deficit.
I use 1/4 coco chow, didn't think I would have to run such high ppms.
My plant is a freak eater, and getting lit up pretty well, high humidity right now, halfway optimized, so my ppms are up there.
I am betting if the bucket were filled with all coco, I would have to run lower ppms.
Fuckin love my new hater buckets.
Been topdressing with Azomite just in case.Question exactly what natural elements does cannabis need to reach its peak. Does it use all 90?
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Resinable, I fed at 2000 ppms/4 ec, and I clearly need to bump it to 2200 already. So let's say the coco contributes a total of 50 ppms K, that would be enough ppms to balance out K ratio at lower ppms. But at my ppms, there would be a deficit.
I use 1/4 coco chow, didn't think I would have to run such high ppms.
My plant is a freak eater, and getting lit up pretty well, high humidity right now, halfway optimized, so my ppms are up there.
I am betting if the bucket were filled with all coco, I would have to run lower ppms.
Fuckin love my new hater buckets.
Ahh Dankworthsan your reasoning becomes clear this morning as the fog burns off the hillside revealing the Chinese forest from my view on the pagoda.
Between you and Northone, who I think feeds at like a total of 25 ppm, there is something to be learned.
I like to focus in on points where intelligent people disagree, that is where things get interesting and a lesson is to be learned. at least that is what they taught me growing up at Shaolin Temple.
That's what's up now all you wanna be big boys study up......lesson over.....
That's what's up now all you wanna be big boys study up......lesson over.....
You mean "Mulder's chart"Ooh ooh... here's another one:
"Mulders chart"
Schools back in session.
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