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Bobby Smith
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i know its a shitload of work to move everything out but id think about doing it. either way should b a legit setup
Firstly, decided to go with 4 600s vs. 3 1Ks - easier to cool, lower electrical cost, more efficient, and I wouldn't have to have an electrician come in and change a circuit over to 240V like I would with the 1Ks.
Assuming I can get dialed in with 4 600s vertically, that'll produce more than enough for my purposes - would love to get to a 1lb. a light, and anything more than that will be icing on my cake.
Secondly, decided to say fuck the chiller and ice box idea - just seems like too much of a hassle to do all that shit in the crawlspace with no guarantee that it'll work and the much larger startup costs vs. an AC ($2000 vs. $500), so I've decided to go with a 14K portable AC.
A lot of people say that portables suck (and they very well might, I've never used one), but I'm confident that in a well-insulated room and with drawing in air from the crawlspace that is AT MAX 70F (during the height of summer, and more like 55F for the other nine months), the 14K could cool down that room with little to no problem.
The benefit of it doubling as a 100 pint dehumidifier (doubt my 25 pint could hold up, so I was gonna have to buy a larger dehumidifier with the chiller setup) is an added bonus.
I'm definitely planning on utilizing that cool crawl space air, but I'm going to do it in a simpler fashion - just put as large a reservoir as I can fit down there (probably have to plumb some smaller ones together) and run a Hydrogen CO2 generator - I think exhausting the heat into a 150-200 gallon reservoir would do a lot to lower the AC needs in there.
So the plan for today is to finish with the intake and exhaust fans and then finish cleaning up - the next step is getting some wood in here and building the motherfucker.
im glad to see u not do the iceboxes. i was goin to for my setup and did a lot of research and found the same thing; too much cost, not productive enough, and too much hassle. id like to keep my rooms as simple as possible. less shit to go wrong.
im runnin prob similar 14,000btu AC in my veg room and it does work but im pushin only 1400watts in my veg room and it struggles. buuuut its a vaulted cieling room so my air volume is huge and thats prob why it doesnt cool down to 75 without the help of my other portbale 10,000 unit.
ure runnin c02 so i think ull b dialed with that AC. prob doubles as a dehumdifier as well? i think most do. also i hope u got the dual duct split portable unit? this way it doesnt exchange ur c02 out of the room while attempting to cool the unit. the dual duct units are by far superior and more efficient then a single duct (ive even used both to prove it)
after explaining to my pops (who owns HVAC company) wat the ice boxes purpose was he just laughed and said fuck that lets get u a split 2ton AC. so i went that route. as long as u use the formula to calculate watts-btus, ull be able neutralize the heat easy.
no reason to waste money on ice boxes, chillers, and all that work.
EDIT: just realized u already mentioned the AC has a 100pint dehum. my bad; just wanted to point out details for future shoppers i guess.
i think the portable units are the next best solution compared to a true 5ton unit or split units like wat i have. i have the portable and works great. everyones setups are diff and need to be modified diff. my partner has his shop with the UC setup and 8 lamps and decided to use the same 14,000btu portable dual dutc units to cool it rather then wave a red flag to local units that this "old run down warehouse" is being upgrade with brand new huge ACs and they run 24/7 even during winter?! so security is a concern for peeps doing certain ACs. id try and stat away from window units since they exhange air (aroma and c02) theyre not efficient at all compared to the portable unit as well.
sorry for the ramble bob i just like to give out as much info from my crazy head as i can since my dad drills all this AC shit in my head.
im sure u saw the watercooled c02 generators?
mine does heat the room some... but not enough that im gonna trip on the heat build up. especially with a large enough AC.
i also intake fresh air/exhaust old air during the night hours to keep my RH% down and bring in new air. cheaper for me then running a DH all the time. plus i ran out of Amps haha.
anyways bro u got sum good shit goin here and im sure itll b dialed keep it up!
oh and i still rec the chiller for ur rez water temps (unless u figure out how to keep the temps down like mentioned above) its the one thing i didnt have the money/amp room for and i wish i could run em. just cuz my rez temps get high up to 78 since its in the flower room which is 85
Is your rez insulated? And have you had any problems as of yet?
Figured that since I was doing a drain to waste in hydroton I wouldn't need one - in hydroton, the roots get the dissolved oxygen from the air in the spaces between the hydroton, which is why it's almost impossible to overwater (and you don't need to cool your water to hold the DO that you do with other media).
If using rockwool or something that holds more water than DO in your water might be more of an issue, but from my understanding it's not an issue in hydroton at all.
The only thing I'd be "kinda" (not even, really) worried about would be algae or little beasties growing in my rez, but I think that making it totally lightproof and using my 35% H2O2 should pretty much make that a non-factor.
Sounds like you're figuring it out Bob. Keep on plugging away on the build and you'll have it up and running in no time. The port a/c sounds like it should work fine, and when I get my water cooling up and running you can see how it works out for me. The main reason Im going that route is I already have a dual hose port a/c but in my extremely small space it sucks out a noticeable amount of co2 and herb smell and blows it into the garage, which is a problem. I think its because I bought a cheap one(windchaser off ebay for $500 shipped). So with the water cool Im looking to completely seal my room(light duct and a/c vents gone) which will improve my stealthness and stop my ac from pumping blue kush stank down the block for the world to enjoy. You gotta get some progress pics up when you catch your breath, curious to see how its going.
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