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just tell your electrical contractor this.
I need a 3 phase 600amp panel. If he's a Legit Contractor that's all he needs to know.
He will need to call the Power Company, Each zone has a different "Utility Planner".
Your Contractor will work with your area's "Planner".
There are several ways to do this job.
Most likly your transformer isnt large enough. So it will need to be upgraded.
Also depending on its "Transformers" location in respect to your "Chicken Coop" will determine the fees you will need to pay.
Wire is Hugely Expensive. Especially tht size. If you got a transformer thats 1500' away and you gotta pull 600 amp power, your looking at 10's of thousands of dollars. Now you can dig the trench yourself and save money, You can even lay the conduit to save money, Your Electricians gonna need to pull the wire, The Utility company does the final connections. This is a very common thing when upgrading power.
But no matter how you slice it your electrician/Utility Co will be working side by side, hand in Hand. And this will be expensive, really expensive.
only difference is materials bro!, Still gonna need the same trench, same distance, Are you fed over head? or underground? Imvho before you choose the perfect grow spot, you must have the power you need, if you dont you price it out, may not even be close to Feasible to grow in this chicken spot. And quite honestly I just dont see why you need that much power, Like I said on page 1 or 2, a couple 20 light rooms and your pulling 30 lbs a month, Just a train wreck to try and go any bigger, Unless your doing 700 patients a day like HS. for real, 15lbs a month does a 100 patient a day Shop, 200 patients 30lbs a month. I got all the data, and for the life of me I cant see why you wanna go so big, manage so much. Theres this whole new mentality I see everywhere now, Lets TAKE OVER the Industry. nobodys ready for that yet.
If you are really considering the eventual use of up to 450 KW or even half that,I would consider purchasing a portable power plant /gen set. Would be cheaper than the annual hydro cost.
First I'd like to thank u for ur valuable advice...
There are a few barns on site. There is a hydro pole one hundred feet from the barn in question. The wires are overhead feeding the barns.
It's a farm ... farm diesel can be delivered, no hauling ;)
And farm coloured diesel is a bit cheaper too.
If you ramp up to full 450 KW your looking at about 200k a yr in hydro ...
If it were me, I'd be pumping diesel ;)
Commercial/industrial.
OK this is the last post I've read so far.
At 450K you are going to need about 1300 amps just for lighting at 480 volts. Then you will also need transformers to step down and run your other equipment. I hope people were joking when they were talking about lighting controllers and such. You will need something better that lighting controllers people build in their garages to plug into dryer receptacles. You would need some real lighting controllers like these By the time you add up all of your draws you will probably be around 2000 amps. Even if you cut back on everything you will likely still need at least 1200 amps. Which means you will need a GFCI protected main. To do this right, you are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars. And to have this ready to rock within a month of starting you're gonna need 10-12 electricians not 1 old electrician who doesn't work with ballasts.
Don't forget to set aside about a 20 x 40' electrical room because that's what you'll need. And forget about the single entrance/exit, that will never meet your egress requirements. Even just your electrical room is going to require two exits and crash bars on the doors, which will have to open out. You need an electrical and a civil engineer on this project. I'm assuming this will be multiple floors. Even with just a basement it will be hard. The weight in just water is going to be tremendous! Thousands of gallons of water in your reservoirs and your plant containers. Plus the weight of the medium, containers, tables, lighting building systems that will have to be upgraded and/or added.
Add all this up and it's easy to see why it seems a joke to be doing this in an old chicken coop. If you are really going to do something like this, you'd be much better off with a purpose built building designed for your intended use. And if you are going that far with it, you may as well have a glass roof so you can save on lighting costs and one of those extremely large automated darkening systems.
So first floor of barn will have walls sheeted with plywood with multiple steel doors for security.
Any recommendations on security alarms to outfit the doors or the corridors? I'm going to make it so there is one possible entrance/exit point. In the past I used a steel door with mag lock on a remote control to disable. Also interested on foggers for security or any new devices that will stall or stop potential thieves before police arrive on site.
Any recommendations on new or old security measures? Aside from a few angry dogs?lol.
Seriously I need good cost effective suggestions on alarms, foggers, or anything that is realistic and safe.(no booby trap suggestions )
If you pull a setup this large you will have several workers onsite 24/7 brother, shit that big cant be left alone and maintenance alone you will basically live there. Just give everyone ak-47s you will be set. Since you seem to have no money boundaries just hire Blackwater to do private security.
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