4x4 Auto Apple Fritter grow

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2nd update.
Rechecked younger plants and they were ready. As just starting week 2 flower on Tuesday they now have a few older fans fading. Ferted with 1.1 liters foop at week 2 strength. Adjusted to 6.37
Did not cut any fans. Tucked a few. Did pinch some low stem node growth that was 3/4 inch from dirt and they had already lost the tiny fans due to dirt contact.
I am now seeing some fading moving into the bud sugar leafs on older plants. I am at max strength in foop nutes and showing painted nails and stacking going on in buds. At 75 degrees humidity 47% DLI at 36. Overnight temps at 69 with humidity at 47 for transition and dropping to 44% by 3am.
 
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Moved light down ( 400 watt ) and reduced to 73% due to heat issue. Tops at 36k lowers at 22k . Seedlings 16k. Was creeping up to 78 degrees. Back down to 76 with .07 vdp swing.
The big light is a heat hog. Wow. But I do not think I am going to need the other units this run.
Looking really nice!!! I had received some apple fritter as a gift after an order, but haven't planted 'em yet. Have you tasted in the past and if so, what's the taste like? Makes me curious.
 
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Looking really nice!!! I had received some apple fritter as a gift after an order, but haven't planted 'em yet. Have you tasted in the past and if so, what's the taste like? Makes me curious.
I have had Apple fritter from the streets but not from a dispensary. The thing I remember about apple fritter and another strain called peanut butter breath is that the pot did not seem to have a maximum for the day limit. I never got greened out or anxiety or anything negative from smoking a lot with the exception of running out of pot.
I completely dropped GG#4 and strains based on that pheno due to anxiety at high doses.
Just not a good fit for me.
 
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Hey, JIMKS164 - Have you been down the "DLI" rabbit hole? From Phylos, who seem to know what they are doing, a chart showing the DLI sweet spot for autoflowers is 30. Doing the calcs, I have been running mine at 50-60+, probably why my plants get so stressed. DLI is a calculation of light intensity and hours of light exposure. According to this is should have been running my Spider Farmer SF2000 at 50% or so. Definitely not the 100 I have been running.

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Hey, JIMKS164 - Have you been down the "DLI" rabbit hole? From Phylos, who seem to know what they are doing, a chart showing the DLI sweet spot for autoflowers is 30. Doing the calcs, I have been running mine at 50-60+, probably why my plants get so stressed. DLI is a calculation of light intensity and hours of light exposure. According to this is should have been running my Spider Farmer SF2000 at 50% or so. Definitely not the 100 I have been running.

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Yes I have seen LOTS of info on DLI. In fact I think it's my page 4 in the journal where my babies were stressed at 50000 lux and I realized that 18-6 at 50 k was way past the cannabis DLI. I reset to max 40k which puts my at 36DLI for the day and the stress showing up at 6pm stopped.
 
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Update.
Well my 2 older plants have a Nitrogen fade. Getting bad and 2 weeks out it is eating bud sugars.
Went over my plan. Plan no work looked over again

Seems my cheapness led me here. I did not purchase the foop veg pack as using the Organic soil and top dressing was going to fill that part.
Well it did not. The foop veg pack is used for at least 6 weeks. My one and only top dress on these 2 was at week 3 and even though it turned one plant orc green it ran out early.
I am very happy this happened to only 2 plants. I am going to amend the plan for nitrogen support through week 6-7 but at least last nitrogen feed at week 6 and look for early fade and jump on it.
Plan changed and will top dress with EWC next feeding of younger plants.
 
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Update.
Ferted front older plant with week 6 foop nutes and a 1\3 cup EWC tea airstoned with 25% of the foop nutes sugar load for 36 hours and then added to rest of the foop. Build your own tea bags on the shelf worked fine.
Defold all plants. Balance of plants may be ready tomorrow.
I am actually dreading this EWC amendment as a lot of folks in journals made a mistake but most of them were chemical ferts. I have decided to tea this one and just top dress with 1/2 a cup then feed as normal.
The 2 younger plants just in flower will get a 1/2 cup top dress EWC at next feed.
 
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Update.
Fed 2nd older plant 1.5 liters week 6 foop nutes after EWC top dress. pH after 6.3
Fed front younger plant week 3 foop pH adjusted to 6.36 after top dress of 3/4 cup EWC.
Tied up some big leaning buds to the lights which is not ideal but will only have to do max of 4 buds.
Older plants 40k to 32 k younger plants 32k to 28k.

Younger topped plant only one not fed this cycle. Hope it needs tomorrow as I poured the nutes and they need poured in 48 hours.
 
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Update
Fed last plant younger rear now known as topper 1.1 liter week 3 foop readjusted to 6.24 pH
As I do not need both 150 watt units in tent ATM I removed one light and the cables. I am prolly gonna sidelight the last 4 weeks of flower on the younger 2 plants and I wanted a better pattern on the remaining light and it was in the way.
Pictures show 6 inch difference in tops but the plant that was inadvertently topped is much denser not only up top but all around.
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Wonder how much not topping will hinder harvest.
They are pretty well matched for the bulk of the plant just one kept going up.
 
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When are you thinking you'll chop?
Based on trics. The first leaf that gives me a good % of amber on an edge means it is time to open some buds. I pick a run and find the bottom and peel one away for a pic. Soon as I see all cloudy on 3 different internal pics I pull.

Prolly 10 days to 2 weeks.
 
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Update.
No low weight pots. Spun young guns 180. Removed some dead leaves.
Good news bad new stuff. The older plants have stopped fading fan leaves.
Bad news? It's because they are all dead jim.
He's dead jim.
Going into 4th day since EWC top dress. Just hoping it is in time for the sugars.
But still looking nice. Still stacking hard and the buds are looking great just not very huge.
 
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This is what it looks like to peel a bud back to look at the trics. This was the white widow photo grow. Then you just push it back in place against the stem.
 
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Update
Ferted both front plants one older and one younger.
Older 1.6 liters week 6 foop adjusted after recalibration. Same same and the ph was low. 6.33 after calibration.
Younger 1.3 liters week 3 foop at 6.28
Buds are stacking and packing.
 
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